Laser Prostate Surgery
By Sean Kenniff, MD
Jul 15, 2003, 12:05pm
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As a company president Tristam Pough has little time to spare, and yet
without even realizing it, he began to reorganize his days - when the
symptoms of his enlarged prostate became serious.
"Just as a smoker looks around a room for an ashtray-a person with this
disorder looks around the room for a bathroom all the time," he said.
Tristam isn't alone. More than 50-million men in the U.S. suffer from the
condition-which is traditionally treated with drugs-or the removal of the
prostate altogether.
Tristam instead chose a new Photoselective Laser Surgery, to remove only
part of his prostate.
Dr. Alexis Te uses the laser at NY Presbyterian Hospital in NY. "It's almost
like i point that laser and the tissue either boils away-or disappears," he
said.
Unlike other lasers in the past-this laser is designed to hone in on
blood-rich tissue - like the prostate's and only go that far. So there's
little damage elsewhere, and almost no blood loss during the surgery.
"You can see how it's opening up a nice canal-removing those side parts of
the prostate that were blocking the flow of urine," Dr. Te said as he
performed an operation.
The effects are almost immediate. Dr. Te just finished studying the laser -
and found more than a 90% improvement in those painful and embarassing
symptoms.
"From what I have seen so far this procedure is very comparable in terms of
its results-to the gold standard of surgery," he said.
And that more invasive surgery carries with it-the possibility of
incontinence and impotence. For Tristam, the decision to go with the laser
was easy. He's now biking and sailing again, and no longer scouting out
bathrooms.
The Photoselective Laser is only being used for enlargement of the prostate,
and not prostate cancer.
If you'd like to contact Dr. Alexis Te at NY Presbyterian Hospital in New
York City, call 212-305-0136.
Dr. Sean Kenniff, CBS-4 News.
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MB - 26 Jul 2003 05:07 GMT
Patrick:
Great article.
Incidentally, the stock (LSCP) continues to make new yearly highs on a
regular basis.
It's taking a long time, but I do think this will become the new gold
standard.
Nevertheless, there still seems to be far too few good doctors doing this.
I'm in Michigan and so far I am not pleased with the current situation (one
doctor doing it has not gotten glowing reports on this ng). If my situation
got bad, I'm not sure what I would do.
Mel
> Laser Prostate Surgery
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Barry - 26 Jul 2003 18:12 GMT
> Patrick:
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> doctor doing it has not gotten glowing reports on this ng). If my situation
> got bad, I'm not sure what I would do.
Talk with others who have had PVP surgery to find a skilled,
experienced doctor.
I would not consider anyone who has done less than 20 operations. Then
talk with that doctor to see if you have a comfort level. Distance
should not be the determining factor. I traveled 1800 miles for my
PVP surgery.
MB - 27 Jul 2003 04:01 GMT
Yes -- I would travel if I had to. But I'd like to find a doctor at least in
my State so that perhaps I could see him/her BEFORE I have real problems!!
MB
> > Patrick:
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> should not be the determining factor. I traveled 1800 miles for my
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Frederic E Henzi - 27 Jul 2003 06:15 GMT
Do you take BPH medication? Are toilets on your mind when you go to events?
Do you have urgency to go and it just trickles? Do you get up more than 2
times at night?
Is air travel and car trips a timing challenge? I had all these symptoms and
it was a real problem. As far as I could figure out, BPH is a mechanical
constriction which gets worse with time.I understand that some meds do
shrink the old prostate, but I was concerned with side effects because I
have T2 diabetes. Eventually, after a year of research and reading the NG,
I opted for PVP because it removes the mechanical constriction. I traveled
from Seattle to Santa Barbara. Dr Laub did I good job and I'm enjoying
retirement again. Medicare and supplemental paid most of it, but not the
trip.
Good luck
Fred Henzi
> Yes -- I would travel if I had to. But I'd like to find a doctor at least in
> my State so that perhaps I could see him/her BEFORE I have real problems!!
Patrick - 27 Jul 2003 14:04 GMT
Mel,
Don't wait for "real" problems. If you have a blockage and you are
"managing" by using medications, your bladder still has to strain. This
does cause damage over time. Also, do you have residual? If you do, the
residual will creep up slowly until the chances of full retention because
more and more likely. The last thing you want is some resident at the loal
hospital doing an emergency TURP on you because you went into retention in
the middle of the night.
You and I have been talking for perhaps two years. Isn't it time to say
goodbye to all your BPH symptoms and to the medications? With 1000 PVPs done
per month all over the country, it is getting easier and easier.
As always best wishes for good health,
Patrick
> Yes -- I would travel if I had to. But I'd like to find a doctor at least in
> my State so that perhaps I could see him/her BEFORE I have real problems!!
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MB - 27 Jul 2003 18:15 GMT
Hi Patrick:
Thanks for your concern. Read my note just sent to Fred.
I definitely have that concern as I stated in that email (to be in a crisis
and be unable to travel).
That's why I NEED to find a doctor, as outlined.
Patrick, I am doing well right now with flomax. My local urologist found
virtually no residual retention. My best form of action is still wait and
see at this time. Hopefully procedures will get even better and more
importantly more doctors will get PVP trained and gain experience.
I realize it worked well for you and this is what I would choose.
Mel
> Mel,
> Don't wait for "real" problems. If you have a blockage and you are
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> > > PVP surgery.
Patrick - 28 Jul 2003 02:48 GMT
Mel,
I hope you stay out of trouble with the Flomax. Watch your symptoms
carefully and yes find a good PVP doctor. There are new doctors all the
time as Laserscope is now selling 30 laser systems a quarter and about 1000
fibers a month.
Best Wishes for good health,
Patrick
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Lee M. - 28 Jul 2003 03:05 GMT
What is the usage of fibers in a typical PVP? I assume it's more than 1 per
operation?
> Mel,
> I hope you stay out of trouble with the Flomax. Watch your symptoms
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Patrick - 28 Jul 2003 13:12 GMT
Lee,
The fiber part is just one per operation.
Patrick
> What is the usage of fibers in a typical PVP? I assume it's more than 1 per
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Lee M. - 28 Jul 2003 22:41 GMT
So one could infer about 1000 PVPs are being performed every month?
Lee
> Lee,
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Patrick - 28 Jul 2003 22:47 GMT
Lee,
That's about what is being done per month worldwide right now (about
1000/month).
I think that is pretty amazing considering one year ago, only 6 doctors were
doing about a total of 10/month!
But it is still only a fraction of the number of TURPs done per month in the
US (estimated at >15,000/month)
Patrick
> So one could infer about 1000 PVPs are being performed every month?
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> > > > > > > > PVP surgery.
Derry Argue - 28 Jul 2003 08:19 GMT
"Patrick" <303delaware@comcast.net> wrote in news:J_mcnTSiTpV-HbmiU-
KYvg@comcast.com:(Snip)
> Laserscope is now selling 30 laser systems a quarter and about 1000
> fibers a month.
Ye gods! Makes the UK look a bit archaic with less than 100 (guesstimate)
for the whole country! Somebody needs to get their act together.
Derry
bnd777 - 28 Jul 2003 18:30 GMT
Sounds like a money saver for the NHS if they got their act together 4 days
in hospital plus possible complications for TURP versus PVP and day surgury
with the cost of fibres
I will bet PVP wins hands down .......BUPA are quite happy with the option
of PVP so it must be a cost saving
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Jack Crane - 30 Jul 2003 06:55 GMT
> There are new doctors all the
> time as Laserscope is now selling 30 laser systems a quarter and about
> 1000 fibers a month.
Does the Laserscope list all the uros doing PVPs?
http://www.laserscope.com/surgical/consumers/fad.html
Or are there others?
Jack Crane
Jack Crane - 30 Jul 2003 09:29 GMT
> Does the Laserscope list all the uros doing PVPs?
> http://www.laserscope.com/surgical/consumers/fad.html
>
> Or are there others?
I should have added that I'm interested only in the U.S. or Canada.
Jack Crane
Patrick - 30 Jul 2003 12:27 GMT
Jack,
Yes, I believe that the Laserscope site (www.laserscope.com) lists all the
doctors that are actively doing PVPs in the US and internationally right
now.
What I was mentioned in in my previous post was that the company sold 30 new
systems in the quarter that ended June 30. So sometime this quarter, I
persume, 30 new doctors will be doing PVPs.
Patrick
> > There are new doctors all the
> > time as Laserscope is now selling 30 laser systems a quarter and about
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> Jack Crane