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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate BPH / December 2003Laserscope co. funds studies?
I spoke with a dr. in NYC who has been mentioned on this list as probably doing PVP (not Te). He explained, patiently and at length that, though he has access to the device, he is quite frankly waiting for others to work the kinks out. He said that most of the studies supporting PVP were done under Laserscope funding. Is this true? Jesse Some of the peer review articles I have indicates Laserscope provided funding. Others indicated no. Discounting peer reviewed research on the funding issue is a cop out and does disservice those professionals who have spent years trying to develop a better medical technique. Waiting to get the kinks out is a gray area. The kinks appear to be worked out but acceptance still takes a while. My insurance company just refused to cover a PVP so I filed an appeal and am now awaiting their decision. If insurance still denies coverage I'll appeal to the State. Some of the material I submitted originated from Laserscope. That does not mean the information is wrong, or inaccurate. FDA frowns upon false advertising of medical devices. > I spoke with a dr. in NYC who has been mentioned on this list as probably > doing PVP (not Te). He explained, patiently and at length that, though he [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Jesse > Some of the peer review articles I have indicates Laserscope provided > funding. Others indicated no. Discounting peer reviewed research on the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Dennis > > <utopia1@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:3fcec655_3@news1.prserv.net... > > I spoke with a dr. in NYC who has been mentioned on this list as probably > > doing PVP (not Te). He explained, patiently and at length that, though he > > has access to the device, he is quite frankly waiting for others to work > the> > kinks out. He said that most of the studies supporting PVP were done under > > Laserscope funding. Is this true?> > Jesse Dennis, Jesse, Just because Laserscope funded the research doesn't invalidate the results provided the research was done in a proper manner. The best indicator of valid research is if it published in a reputable journal. Unfortunately, I'm not expert in this regard. However, there is a problem in privately funded research as the decision to publish is made by the fund provider. If the results turn out negative, they have the option of not publishing the results. The researcher has no say. This being said. I'm just waiting until Laserscope comes to my area to have one done. Tony: It may not invalidate the results, but I think it does "cheapen" them. Let's face it, when the financier has a vested interest in the outcome, it calls the results into question. I remember when Patrick started posting here extolling the virtues of Laserscope with almost a missionary zeal, I really questioned him about it. I remember asking him if he had any financial interest in this. I know Patrick resented that question and at one point even indicated he might leave. Eventually, he did decide to stay and also eventually indicated he had no financial interest in this. (Patrick: I am glad you stayed as you have helped many folks on this newsgroup) (Incidentally, since that time I myself bought and then accumulated shares in Laserscope and that has been a GREAT investment so far!). OTOH, I can see where a company can have tremendous faith in their product and so they commission various studies to confirm that faith. All that being said, from everything I've read, there is no question in my mind: that is the way I will go if I am judged amenable for such a procedure. Mel > > Some of the peer review articles I have indicates Laserscope provided > > funding. Others indicated no. Discounting peer reviewed research on the [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > not publishing the results. The researcher has no say. This being said. I'm > just waiting until Laserscope comes to my area to have one done. > I spoke with a dr. in NYC who has been mentioned on this list as probably > doing PVP (not Te). He explained, patiently and at length that, though he [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Jesse While he's waiting for "the kinks" (what kinks?) to be worked out, almost 15,000 happy campers have had this procedure. I think this speaks volumes, and makes it irrelevant who paid for the studies. Barry, How do we know they're "happy campers" as you say? If anyone is following up on all the Laserscope procedures performed to date, the results haven't been published anywhere to my knowledge. Bob > > I spoke with a dr. in NYC who has been mentioned on this list as probably > > doing PVP (not Te). He explained, patiently and at length that, though he [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > almost 15,000 happy campers have had this procedure. I think this > speaks volumes, and makes it irrelevant who paid for the studies. Bob - Following up on "all" of any procedure is a momumental task and raises privacy issues. However there is peer review research which has been published. Results are favorable. Dennis Dennis > Barry, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > almost 15,000 happy campers have had this procedure. I think this > > speaks volumes, and makes it irrelevant who paid for the studies. Bob - Following up on "all" of any procedure is a momumental task and raises privacy issues. However there is peer review research which has been published. Results are favorable. Dennis Dennis > Barry, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > almost 15,000 happy campers have had this procedure. I think this > > speaks volumes, and makes it irrelevant who paid for the studies. Many have had PVP because of favorable word of mouth, not their doctors advocating the procedure. I've found doctors very slow to adapt any new technology, and have been amazed at the urologists who never heard of PVP. In many cases, it's the patient who is requesting the doctor learn PVP. The number of procedures being performed is growing dramatically. Checkout Investors Business Daily and their feature article on Laserscope on November 22, 2003. |
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