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Jack Gachesa - 30 Nov 2003 18:02 GMT
It's been over a year since I had my PVP on 11/19/02, and I can
say today I've never had any medical procedure that gave me more
benefit, and satisfaction. It has improved my life tremendously.
I am now 74 plus. I have posted a number of times under a different
email addr., weekly, then monthly, immediately after the operation.
You can search to see these early postings. This is my first post in
the last six months. My LUT (lower uninary tract) parameters are now
even better than those early posts stated! I had median lobe involvment
so initially had intermittant retro, but now this seems to be over.
I urge all those who have been hesitating to abandon the supplemensts
and take the plunge! You won't regret it. I also have info on bladder
retraining, and other info, if you care to email me.I can then give you
my other email addr. so you can search my earlier posts. I had to go to
hotmail as tons of spam and other trash deluged me as a result of using
my net ISP on these newsgroups. Seasons greetings to all

Jack G.
Lewis M. Dreblow - 01 Dec 2003 15:11 GMT
Jack (and others),

Thanks for coming back and giving us a status report.
My PVP was in April '03 and my urinary system continues
to improve.  In particular, my bladder continues to regain
its elasticity and my retro has dissapeared.  However,
having gone through at least two prior years of increasing
abdominal stress I have now been diagnosed with diverticulitis.
I wonder if you or others have noticed this condition as
another side effect of not immediately clearing out the
urethral passageway (or as you call it "hesitating to abandon
the supplements...").

Lewis.

> It's been over a year since I had my PVP on 11/19/02, and I can
> say today I've never had any medical procedure that gave me more
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> Jack G.
Jack Gachesa - 04 Dec 2003 17:28 GMT
Hi Louis. I don't know anything about diverticulitis other than in the
context
of the the digestive sense. Here's my experiences on bladder
retraining:

Having had BPH for more than 20 years prior to PVP, my bladder had
responded to the restriction by becoming "muscle bound" i.e, had
increased wall thickness,
with consequent reduction in elasticity. This is known as
trabeculation in med terms.Post surgery recovery of elasticity is very
dependent on the age (+74 in my case),being much faster for the
younger man than the elder, as would be expected.
So, even after acheiving low retention following PVP, my capacity was
only about
150- 200 cc at the point of urgency, a sizeable improvement over
pre-PVP.

I  began drinking about 1 1/2 qts. of water each am, over a period of
about 2 hrs.,resisting the strong urge as long as possible in an
effort to force streching of the thick walls. I slowly sipped the
water, to prevent overload. Gradually over a period of a month or two,
I was able to increase the urge point to allow as much as 300-350 cc
before voiding was required. Then I heard of drugs for over-active
bladder relief.My doc gave me a 3 wk supply to try, and I began to see
some increase, getting to as high as 400-450 cc, so I got a
prescription for 2 months, and at first things went well, except for
some side effects, (dry mouth, mostly). Then during the last month, I
noticed my flow rate diminished somewhat, and I seemed to be gaining
body weight from general body tissue retention( 4-6 lb). Then I
noticed my monthly drug bill soared from around 50$ to over 139$! and
I found I was being charged way over a 100$ for the drug (Ditropan XL
10) I was taking, and I immediately stopped it, after which
things began to normalize. After 2 days, my body weight dropped to
near normal,
and other symptoms began to dissappear. This is my third day, so if
anything
significant occurs, I'll repost.  
Jack G

> Jack (and others),
>
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>
> Lewis.
Jack Gachesa - 04 Dec 2003 17:28 GMT
Hi Louis. I don't know anything about diverticulitis other than in the
context
of the the digestive sense. Here's my experiences on bladder
retraining:

Having had BPH for more than 20 years prior to PVP, my bladder had
responded to the restriction by becoming "muscle bound" i.e, had
increased wall thickness,
with consequent reduction in elasticity. This is known as
trabeculation in med terms.Post surgery recovery of elasitcity is very
dependent on the age (+74 in my case),being much faster for the
younger man than the elder, as would be expected.
So, even after acheiving low retention following PVP, my capacity was
only about
150- 200 cc at the point of urgency, a sizeable improvement over
pre-PVP.

I  began drinking about 1 1/2 qts. of water each am, over a period of
about 2 hrs.,resisting the strong urge as long as possible in an
effort to force streching of the thick walls. I slowly sipped the
water, to prevent overload. Gradually over a period of a month or two,
I was able to increase the urge point to allow as much as 300-350 cc
before voiding was required. Then I heard of drugs for over-active
bladder relief.My doc gave me a 3 wk supply to try, and I began to see
some increase, getting to as high as 400-450 cc, so I got a
prescription for 2 months, and at first things went well, except for
some side effects, (dry mouth, mostly). Then during the last month, I
noticed my flow rate diminished somewhat, and I seemed to be gaining
body weight from general body tissue retention( 4-6 lb). Then I
noticed my monthly drug bill soared from around 50$ to over 139$! and
I found I was being charged way over a 100$ for the drug (Ditropan XL
10) I was taking, and I immediately stopped it, after which
things began to normalize. After 2 days, my body weight dropped to
near normal,
and other symptoms began to dissappear. This is my third day, so if
anything
significant occurs, I'll repost.  
Jack G

> Jack (and others),
>
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> Lewis.
 
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