My PVP adventure began in July, 2002, when I first read of the
procedure on this newsgroup, thanks to Patrick¹s postings. It was he
who, at my request, led me to make an appointment in August with Dr.
Alexis Te, Weill-Cornell Medical Center, in New York City. The usual
tests were made in September, with a follow-up session in November. The
biopsy revealed that my prostate was 250 cc, ³the king of prostates,²
as Dr. Te remarked. He put me on Avodart and Flomax in order to reduce
its size so that the procedure could be accomplished in only one
session. I next saw Dr. Te in June (2003) for another ³measurement,²
which showed that the gland had indeed shrunk about twenty-five
percent. So Dr. Te told me to make an appointment for the operation.
Meanwhile, back home (near Utica, NY), my hematologist was concerned
with blood tests that revealed I had a coagulation deficiency. Further
test results in late summer and fall were somewhat ambiguous and
inconclusive--that is, one test would show a deficiency and the next
would not, and so on--; when deficient, the clotting time corrected
itself in a test tube with the addition of plasma; the addition of
plasma in vivo also corrected the clotting time. So the hematologist
contacted Dr. Te by telephone. After discussing the matter at length,
they agreed that I could undergo the PVP. Then I made an appointment
for the operation: December 2, five days short of my 69th birthday.
My wife and I took the train from Utica on Monday, Dec. 1, to report
for the pre-operation session at 8:30 a.m. on Dec. 2. (If you travel to
NYC for medical work at Weill-Cornell/New York Presbyterian Hospital,
very nice rooms with kitchenettes are available at reasonable rates at
Helmsley Medical Tower, adjacent to the hospital.) Dr. Te visited with
me and my wife during the pre-op, and I was taken to the operating room
just before 11:00 o¹clock. The anesthesiologist was a very friendly man
of my age, who said, ³You¹re going to like this. Dr. Te did it for me
three weeks ago. Take a deep breath.² And I was out.
It was 4:00 p.m. when I came to in the recovery room, shivering. Once I
was comfortable, Dr. Te appeared, all smiles. He was very pleased with
the results and said it took five hours--because of the
still-very-large prostate. It seems that he is now specializing in the
oversize candidates. Each of his assistants--I don¹t know how many
there are, but it seemed to be quite a crew--stopped by in turn, never
failing to say, ³You had a REALLY LARGE prostate!² Very nice young med
students and residents--I believe they all worship the water that Dr.
Te walks on!
Because of that REALLY LARGE prostate, Dr. Te kept me in the hospital,
catheterized, overnight. The next morning the catheter was removed at
11:00 a.m., and I urinated freely. And freely. And freely. I was
released later that afternoon.
My great fear was that I would still be urinating freely on the train
trip home on Thursday. We got seats near the toilet, but I needed it
only three times in the five-hour trip.
Now as to pain, stinging, bleeding: There wasn¹t any. The blood in the
urine was light at its worst--about the shade of white zinfandel. No
clots. Four days afterward the only blood that shows is at the
beginning of urination, and that but little. I am drinking a good deal
of water all day and pass about a gallon during the night--that ought
to be a good flushing of the system. Other than that, I have no
sensation at all of having been operated upon.
On the whole, I am somewhat overawed by the quality of Dr. Te¹s care
and the light touch in his technique. I just can¹t praise him too
highly and look forward to seeing him in a week or so for my review.
Ironically, the PVP was being offered in Syracuse, an hour¹s drive from
my home, beginning at the same time I was receiving it in New York
City. Amtrak¹s service is spotty at best, and depending on the taxi
drivers in the city is always chancy--especially if time is short--but
I will undergo all that for treatment by Dr. Te.
Surely a new gold standard has arrived!
Derry Argue - 06 Dec 2003 21:12 GMT
> Surely a new gold standard has arrived!
Absolutely!
Derry
(Still all OK this end too)
lightshow - 07 Dec 2003 00:29 GMT
> My PVP adventure began in July, 2002, when I first read of the
> procedure on this newsgroup, thanks to Patrick¹s postings. It was he
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>
> Surely a new gold standard has arrived!
Dick,we all thank you for your super post. It seems, though, that PVP
has never been available in Syracuse,(hopefully,soon)... I would like to
have a Uro. here that is "on the ball" for check up's.
I looked at my options, and decided that St. Augustine was logistically
(in January 03) the place to be.<g> Dr. Lin and Dr. Te have been (some
of) the pioneers of this procedure, and it is great that you are as
pleased with yours as I am with mine.
jon
lightshow - 07 Dec 2003 00:29 GMT
> My PVP adventure began in July, 2002, when I first read of the
> procedure on this newsgroup, thanks to Patrick¹s postings. It was he
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>
> Surely a new gold standard has arrived!
Dick,we all thank you for your super post. It seems, though, that PVP
has never been available in Syracuse,(hopefully,soon)... I would like to
have a Uro. here that is "on the ball" for check up's.
I looked at my options, and decided that St. Augustine was logistically
(in January 03) the place to be.<g> Dr. Lin and Dr. Te have been (some
of) the pioneers of this procedure, and it is great that you are as
pleased with yours as I am with mine.
jon
lightshow - 07 Dec 2003 00:31 GMT
> My PVP adventure began in July, 2002, when I first read of the
> procedure on this newsgroup, thanks to Patrick¹s postings. It was he
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>
> Surely a new gold standard has arrived!
Dick,we all thank you for your super post. It seems, though, that PVP
has never been available in Syracuse,(hopefully,soon)... I would like to
have a Uro. here that is "on the ball" for check up's.
I looked at my options, and decided that St. Augustine was logistically
(in January 03) the place to be.<g> Dr. Lin and Dr. Te have been (some
of) the pioneers of this procedure, and it is great that you are as
pleased with yours as I am with mine.
jon
lightshow - 07 Dec 2003 00:34 GMT
> My PVP adventure began in July, 2002, when I first read of the
> procedure on this newsgroup, thanks to Patrick¹s postings. It was he
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>
> Surely a new gold standard has arrived!
Dick,we all thank you for your super post. It seems, though, that PVP
has never been available in Syracuse,(hopefully,soon)... I would like to
have a Uro. here that is "on the ball" for check up's.
I looked at my options, and decided that St. Augustine was logistically
(in January 03) the place to be.<g> Dr. Lin and Dr. Te have been (some
of) the pioneers of this procedure, and it is great that you are as
pleased with yours as I am with mine.
jon
lightshow - 07 Dec 2003 00:35 GMT
> My PVP adventure began in July, 2002, when I first read of the
> procedure on this newsgroup, thanks to Patrick¹s postings. It was he
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>
> Surely a new gold standard has arrived!
Dick,we all thank you for your super post. It seems, though, that PVP
has never been available in Syracuse,(hopefully,soon)... I would like to
have a Uro. here that is "on the ball" for check up's.
I looked at my options, and decided that St. Augustine was logistically
(in January 03) the place to be.<g> Dr. Lin and Dr. Te have been (some
of) the pioneers of this procedure, and it is great that you are as
pleased with yours as I am with mine.
jon
Frederic E Henzi - 07 Dec 2003 05:15 GMT
Richard,
Thanks for your report. I'm glad that all went well with your jumbo
prostate.
It is your kind of experience which demonstrates that PVP is here to stay.
It is very encouraging that a difficult case like yours can be taken tackled
with PVP by a good surgeon. From previous postings I was getting the feeling
that large prostates, 100 and larger, might be too large for PVP. This is
obviously not the case.
I was PVP'ed in May and BPH is history. My time-between-voids stills
improves. I can hold easily four hours, even with consuming coffee, a habit
a had given up to reduce BPH misery.
Retirement is good again.
Fred Henzi
> My PVP adventure began in July, 2002, when I first read of the
> procedure on this newsgroup, thanks to Patrick?s postings. It was he
> who, at my request, led me to make an appointment in August with Dr.
> Alexis Te, Weill-Cornell Medical Center, in New York City. The usual
> tests were made in September, with a follow-up session in November. The
> biopsy revealed that my prostate was 250 cc, ?the king of prostates,?
> Surely a new gold standard has arrived!
Fredisg - 07 Dec 2003 16:10 GMT
Hi,
PVP is available in Syracuse. Dr. Joel Bass is performing them at Community
General Hospital. He trained in Rochester a number of months ago.
He is an intelligent and progressive guy who seems on top of things. He knows
Dr. Te and his associates at Cornell and is aware of the latest stuff in the
uro world!
Fred
Fred
lightshow - 08 Dec 2003 03:31 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> Fred
Thanks Fred (you too Richard)for your posts. I expect to see Dr. Bass
listed on the Laserscope site shortly. He can expect a call from me on
Monday, if I can get away from transcribeing "War & Peace" on our
snowbank south of the deck.It's nice to be able to pee and take a
literary spin in a snowbank. <bfg> Thanks again....
jon
David DeBar - 08 Dec 2003 16:50 GMT
Richard,
Glad all went well with your operation. It sound like you and I tie for
world class prostates. I was told that mine was in excess of 250 cc. I
also traveled to find a doctor who had the skill needed for such a large
prostate. Dr. Lin in Florida did mine. Assuming that your recovery will be
similar to mine, I can tell you what to expect. I had some pain develop
behind my balls but in front of my anus. Dr Lyn called my home and asked me
how I was doing. When I told him about the pain and the burning during
urination he phoned in a prescription for a medication that turned my pee
blue but made all the pain go away. I had my operation on July 31 and have
had retrograde ejaculation until this past weekend. Now everything is
normal and there is no pain.
Have a speedy recovery.
Dave
Richard F. Somer - 09 Dec 2003 18:44 GMT
> Richard,
>
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>
> Dave
Thanks, Dave--
Glad everything has cleared up for you. So far, a week out, I have not
had any pain, stinging, burning, or other discomfort. I do feel the
urge to urinate whenever I rise from sitting, and there is still a
trace of blood in the urine. I expect this to correct itself within
another week. I'll be seeing Dr. Te again on Dec. 17.
Dick