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PVP for Canadians...please!

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John Griffin - 19 Nov 2003 20:00 GMT
I was wondering if anyone from Canada has ventured south of the border
(specifically to Rochester, N.Y.) to get PVP. My urologist gives me two
options that are covered by the Ontario Health Plan: TURP and microwave
(TUMP?) After reading articles here about PVP, I seems to me to be the
way to go.

If you have done this, how expensive was it? Did you consider the trip
worthwhile?

jg
Tom DS - 20 Nov 2003 15:30 GMT
Hi John

I had a Turp 3 years ago and a PVP on the 11th of NOv. Came home that day
with a catheter and had it removed the next day.

NO BLEEDING. NO PAIN. Amazing

I went to Dr. Paul DiMarco in Rochester.  He knows what he is doing..

Good Luck
Tom

> I was wondering if anyone from Canada has ventured south of the border
> (specifically to Rochester, N.Y.) to get PVP. My urologist gives me two
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> jg
John G. - 20 Nov 2003 21:53 GMT
Tom, I assume you are from Canada. So, can you reveal what the bottom
line is for such a procedure for Canadians?

Griff

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Mel Smith - 21 Nov 2003 15:24 GMT
Griff,

  The 'bottomline' as far as the surgeon is concerned (in Alberta, Canada)
ranges from $280 to $472 (Cdn).   There are approx 10 standard procedures with
the word 'urethral' in them.  As I just noted, getting in and doing some
serious choppin' and cuttin' is between $250 and $500 for the guy with the
knife.

-Mel Smith
(Claims Submittor)
Tam Irving - 22 Nov 2003 04:09 GMT
Hi John. I am a Canadian living in Vancouver. Am considering PVP in Seattle.
However , the cost is very high around $10,000 U.S. Have decided to wait for
the procedure to be introduced into Canada. The urologist that I have talked
to here has his head in the sand! Tam Irving.
> I was wondering if anyone from Canada has ventured south of the border
> (specifically to Rochester, N.Y.) to get PVP. My urologist gives me two
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> jg
John G. - 24 Nov 2003 20:18 GMT
> Hi John. I am a Canadian living in Vancouver. Am considering PVP in Seattle.
> However , the cost is very high around $10,000 U.S. Have decided to wait for
> the procedure to be introduced into Canada. The urologist that I have talked
> to here has his head in the sand! Tam Irving.

Every damn Urologist in Canada seems to have the head-in-sand syndrome!
I have talked with about six in Southern Ontario and they all say the
same thing: "If it was as good as they say it is, it would be available
in Canada by now."

Or: "You can't believe what you might read in a Usenet group on the
Internet."

Or: "Just wait for the initial enthusiasm to wind down and get resplaced
with reality."

What a load of crap! And they call themselves scientists!

Griff
Tam Irving - 26 Nov 2003 06:51 GMT
John,
I have come to the conclusion that Canadian urogologists are more interested
in
practising their TURP skills than checking out newer and less invasive
procedures. I suppose this is only human since they have taken years to
acquire surgical skills and are looking for the pay back! Also, as Canadians
we are famous for our conservatism. I spoke recently to an American
urologist who has started doing PVP after ten years of practising the TURP
procedure. He tells me that he doesn't think that he will do any more TURPS
after such success with PVP. I wish that I could think of a way to galvanise
some action here! Tam.

> > Hi John. I am a Canadian living in Vancouver. Am considering PVP in Seattle.
> > However , the cost is very high around $10,000 U.S. Have decided to wait for
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> Griff
Idea Man - 26 Nov 2003 20:15 GMT
"Tam Irving" wrote..

> Hi John. I am a Canadian living in Vancouver. Am considering PVP in Seattle.
> However , the cost is very high around $10,000 U.S. Have decided to wait for
> the procedure to be introduced into Canada. The urologist that I have talked
> to here has his head in the sand! Tam Irving.

I heard of an American urologist who relocated to Vancouver a couple years
ago. He may be up to date regarding PVP as opposed to his Canadian
counterparts? I can't be sure about that however.
Patrick - 26 Nov 2003 23:45 GMT
I don't think PVP is approved yet in Canada.

> "Tam Irving" wrote..
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> ago. He may be up to date regarding PVP as opposed to his Canadian
> counterparts? I can't be sure about that however.
John G. - 03 Dec 2003 21:46 GMT
> I don't think PVP is approved yet in Canada.

Not only is it not approved, most of the doctors I have talked with the
past few months have never heard of PVP. They think I am talking about
laser surgery and I have to go through a long explanation of what is
involved in PVP. The reply is always: "Oh, sorry, never heard of it!"

My prediction is that PVP will be introduced in Canada in the year 2010.
By that time I will probably be so fed up with my prostate I will have
had it surgically removed!

Griff
 
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