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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate BPH / April 2009Recurring BPH problems
I am 62 and with BPH for many years. A single Flomax .4mg used to help. For the last 1.5 years, I've been taking 2 Flomax .4mg every evening. I can accumulate as little as 3 oz of urine and experience bladder-pain. Not so bad during the day: I'm retired and at home almost all day. On a typical night, I might sleep for an hour or so, then awake with an erection caused by bladder-pain. Then have trouble starting a stream, finally nurse 5-6 short spurts into the toilet, and try to get back to sleep. Awake again in 1.5-3 hours with similar experience. Do patients build up tolerance to Flomax and similar drugs over time? Not certain where to go from here. Any/all info/suggestions much appreciated. Thanks, Peetie >I am 62 and with BPH for many years. A single Flomax .4mg used to help. >For the last 1.5 years, I've been taking 2 Flomax .4mg every evening. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Thanks, > Peetie Hi, Peetie. I've been on Flomax for more than 4 years, and there is no sign of tolerance to it. It still works for me. What is causing the bladder pain? Your uro must have investigated that. What has he said? Are you maybe in retention all the time? That would be a bad thing. Like you, I get up every 2 or 3 hours at night. That is not a serious frequency. But I would say pain is not a good sign and should be investigated. You must be seeing a uro, right? What does he recommend? Mine says try meds first. In addition to Flomax (which relaxes the muscles), maybe you should be on Proscar or Avodart (which reduce the size of the prostate). But these drugs don't help symptoms all that much. They might help a bit, but mostly will help keep the condition from getting worse. If meds don't work or stop being effective enough, then it is time for surgery. The main options are TURP and PVP. Ed ... >>Do patients build up tolerance to Flomax and similar drugs over time? >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >I've been on Flomax for more than 4 years, and there is no sign of >tolerance to it. It still works for me. Glad to hear. How old are you? >What is causing the bladder pain? Your uro must have investigated >that. What has he said? Are you maybe in retention all the time? That >would be a bad thing. I don't think it's just retension. It just hurts. And somehow precipitates an erection during sleep. It's often the erection that actually makes me leave bad. I'll go shopping for an hour or so. When I get back, it hurts a bunch. I pee, the volume isn't great, pain is relieved. It doesn't feel like there's much left in there. >Like you, I get up every 2 or 3 hours at night. That is not a serious >frequency. But I would say pain is not a good sign and should be >investigated. If not pain, then what wakes you after, say, the first 2 hours of sleep? >You must be seeing a uro, right? What does he recommend? I get a lotta dumb looks after they determine I'm not a candidate for surgery. >Mine says try >meds first. He couldn't be all bad. :-) >In addition to Flomax (which relaxes the muscles), maybe >you should be on Proscar or Avodart (which reduce the size of the >prostate). But these drugs don't help symptoms all that much. They >might help a bit, but mostly will help keep the condition from getting >worse. If it hadn't gotten worse in recent years, maybe I'd still be OK with a Flomax or 2. Maybe I should approach my doc re Proscar or Avodart. Other opinions are very welcome. >If meds don't work or stop being effective enough, then it is time for >surgery. The main options are TURP and PVP. I'd consider Haitian VooDoo Magic before I'd consider going under the knife. Thanks, Peetie > ... >>>Do patients build up tolerance to Flomax and similar drugs over time? [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > Thanks, > Peetie Many people would just be happy with the erections:-) Have you had a flow test and been checked for retention. If you don't have retention and only pass 3 ozs it sounds like your kidneys are not producing the urine. Do you drink normal amounts of water as that is a very big part of Haitian Voodoo medical practice. Derek. ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- >Many people would just be happy with the erections:-) I would be, too ... if they would occur at opportune moments! <g> >Have you had a flow >test and been checked for retention. No. >If you don't have retention and only >pass 3 ozs it sounds like your kidneys are not producing the urine. Where else could it come from? >Do you >drink normal amounts of water as that is a very big part of Haitian Voodoo >medical practice. I'm probably near average for liquid intake. Thx, Peetie on 11/3/2008 10:01 PM Peetie Wheatstraw said the following: > >> [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > Peetie > Try an NSAID or two before going to bed. Aspirin, Ibuprofen, Tylenol, etc. It could reduce the amount of times you have to get up, and the pain reliever might help. I'm 70, and it helps me reduce the trips to the bathroom. I have one trip halfway through my sleep time (usually between 4 and 5 AM), but I've never had any pain to test whether the pain reliever would help. Another thing is to not drink any liquids for a few hours before going to bed, the more hours the better.  SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ >Try an NSAID or two before going to bed. Aspirin, Ibuprofen, Tylenol, etc. >It could reduce the amount of times you have to get up, and the pain >reliever might help. I'm a cronic pain patient, take lots of tylenol, ibuprofen, and am on opioid therapy (for years now). Lo-back pain, nasty vericocele, etc. >I'm 70, and it helps me reduce the trips to the bathroom. I have one >trip halfway through my sleep time (usually between 4 and 5 AM), but >I've never had any pain to test whether the pain reliever would help. >Another thing is to not drink any liquids for a few hours before going >to bed, the more hours the better. I try to limit liquid intake in the evening hours. Drink very little from 6 pm 'till bedtime around 11:30. Thx, Peetie Hello: I had bladder pain a few years ago, and with a regular x-ray, a one inch bladder stone was found. I had a very small prostate (29 grams), but the center lobe pushed upward. That deformed the bladder just enough to create an environment for a stone to form. After the stone was removed, I had a TURP 10 months later. It was not that big a deal, as not much of the prostate had to be taken out. I think only 4 grams. My uro told me that some people like me can have an elevated bladder neck from birth without a prostate problem. Corky >>Try an NSAID or two before going to bed. Aspirin, Ibuprofen, Tylenol, etc. >>It could reduce the amount of times you have to get up, and the pain [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Thx, > Peetie >Hello: I had bladder pain a few years ago, and with a regular x-ray, a >one inch bladder stone was found. I had a very small prostate (29 >grams), but the center lobe pushed upward. That deformed the bladder >just enough to create an environment for a stone to form. After the >stone was removed, How did they remove the stone? >I had a TURP 10 months later. Removing the stone didn't decrease the pain at all? >It was not that big a >deal, as not much of the prostate had to be taken out. I think only 4 >grams. My uro told me that some people like me can have an elevated >bladder neck from birth without a prostate problem. Corky Forgive my ignorance: I'm really not familiar with such procedures, etc. A "Babe In The Woods", so to speak. Would appreciate details of both procedures. How long incapacitated? How much pain? Etc, etc. How expensive? I'd have to pay the first $500 out-of-pocket. I've seen 3 uro's over the years. None much cared about relating helpful advice. Thanks, Peetie >>>Try an NSAID or two before going to bed. Aspirin, Ibuprofen, Tylenol, etc. >>>It could reduce the amount of times you have to get up, and the pain [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> Thx, >> Peetie Hello: The bladder stone was removed by going up through the penis with some kind of instrument which blasted it into little pieces. I was sedated for the procedure, but had to have a catheter for 24 hours after the operation. (only time incapacitated) The majority of the bladder pain went away immediately, but it took a month to get back to 100%. The TURP also involves going through the penis, and in my case they didn't use a laser. I don't know the name of the tool they used, but I went home with a catheter for 48 hours. I didn't like that part. The healing took about three weeks. The bleeding was minimal, but I didn't like it when little chunks of tissue came out, or a little pink urine. Not too much pain though. I had good insurance so the out of pocket was around $600 for both procedures that I had. Most people in this newsgroup like the Greenlight laser procedure. I think if I needed a lot of tissue removed to fix my BPH, I'd go with that. One other thing is you don't want to damage your bladder by waiting years to correct any urination problems. The organ can thicken with something they call trabuculations. (sp?) Corky On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:07:55 -0600, Peetie Wheatstraw <peetie.wheatstraw@gmail.com> wrote: >>Hello: I had bladder pain a few years ago, and with a regular x-ray, a >>one inch bladder stone was found. I had a very small prostate (29 [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >>> Thx, >>> Peetie Thanks, Corky. Such info is potentially very helpful. >I've seen 3 uro's over the years. None much cared about >relating helpful advice. Anybody found a better way of finding a helpful uro than just leafing thru the ins. co. provider directory, chatting with their receptionists on the phone? Thanks, Peetie >Hello: The bladder stone was removed by going up through the penis >with some kind of instrument which blasted it into little pieces. I [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >years to correct any urination problems. The organ can thicken with >something they call trabuculations. (sp?) Corky > Thanks, Corky. Such info is potentially very helpful. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > leafing thru the ins. co. provider directory, chatting with > their receptionists on the phone? I went to the PVP site and found one that does PVP-but he does not listen to me etc.-but he does PV and he is pretty close by. Michael > Thanks, > Peetie [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>years to correct any urination problems. The organ can thicken with >>something they call trabuculations. (sp?) Corky I'm 60. In 2006 my PSA went from 2.5 to 4.5, so a needle biopsy was done (negative results) 2007, had the free/radical test done. I was told this is a different test, so we could not compare previous results with this test. This test was 4.25 with free/radical at 30& chance of cancer. I decided to wait and see (no biopsy) 2008, PSA of 5.8 - another needle biopsy (negative results) The uro offered no thoughts on how to deal with a high PSA- more like 'see you next year and we'll stick you again'. For the past 18 months, I've taken saw palmetto with nettle and pumpkin seed - but then my PSA was the highest its been this year. I would assume that punching 12 holes into my prostate every year is not a great way to treat it. Any suggestions on how to lower PSA? >I'm 60. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >Any suggestions on how to lower PSA? As a very interested layman, I will offer what I have found on the internet over the past four years.. There are things to avoid within a few days of the PSA test that may (I repeat .. MAY) help. Strenuous exercise -- especially involving the lower body. Sexual climax. Those are two I have read about on the internet. I would suggest the possibility -- and this is only my own idea -- make sure you are not constipated on the day preceding the test. . As I say -- I am only a layman with no medical knowledge. I suffer BPH myself -- and I also try and help myself. As an afterthought, I have heard that cranberry juice is good for the bladder. Possibly also for the whole urinary system. Just a few amateur thoughts. >>I'm 60. >> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Just a few amateur thoughts. Hard stools in the days before the test also put PSA up Derek. ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- > >I'm 60. > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Hi. I have prostate problems and have been fitted with a cathater now for 6 months. I took a twoc test this week and failed to pass sufficient urine. I have found for some time that sitting in a chair during the evenings and at night I have no problems. During the day I sometimes get the feeling of wanting to urinate and a 10 or 20 seconds severe pain. Some urine into the leg bag and a leakage from the top. A small leakage usually but sometimes a large leakage. ( Due to blockage I have had to visit A and E 3 times to have a replacement bag fitted.) Due to see a mail nurse who is an expert ? on prostate problems in 10 days. Have any other reader had sinilar problems and what in the remidy to solve the problems ? Peter. > I'm 60. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Any suggestions on how to lower PSA? My PSA went down by about 30% after my PVP and I'm told that is about the average and is now 5.86. Derek. ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- I do not have any suggestion for lower your PSA other using maybe Saw Palmento. I was wondering how your PVP turn out other than lower your PSA? What sort of adverse reaction did you have after the PVP? Was your prostate of large size? The reason I am asking about the size is that I found the founding information on the internet: The PVP (KPT) Laser (GreenLight Laser) has a somewhat long wavelength that penetrates the tissue more deeply - in fact, the energy penetrates more deeply than it ablates (removes). The consequence is that unablated remaining tissue has been affected by the laser. The result can be a phenomenon known as necrosis of the affected tissue: the remaining tissue dies and may require further treatment of other means to remove, down the line. This is a potential detrimental side effect. Because of the higher possibility of necrosis, PVP is not recommended for larger prostate conditions. It is considered viable for smaller prostates. Definition of Necrosis - Death of cells or tissues through injury or disease, especially in a localized area of the body. I also found the following on the internet in the same article: HOLMIUM LASER The Holmium (YAG) laser has a shorter wavelength and penetrates less deeply than the PVP. Energy from the laser is imparted only to the tissue that is ablated (removed). As a result, there is no necrosis concern. In a panel discussion of noted urologists comparing the two technologies for HoLAP procedures[1], the experiences of all came down positively for the Holmium vs. the PVP laser. Holmium (YAG) laser can be performed on extremely large prostates with minimal risk or need for secondary interventions. When I went to see my urologist he wants to use PVP on my prostate. He said my prostate is very large. After reading the above info. I am somewhat leary to let him do PVP now. If you had a positive outcome from PVP and had a large prostate that will make me fill somewhat better. I fact if there is anybody out there that have information that will make me feel more comfortable about either of these (PVP GreenLight) or Homium (YAG) I would like to know I am going to have to have something done to my prostate to make pee with full stream and not be in pain all the time. Thank You >> I'm 60. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road >----------------- > I'm 60. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Any suggestions on how to lower PSA? I think you've got it about right except, I'd look at "cause" rather than "cure." Were this my issue, I'd look for another Uro or sit down with my PriCare physician and ask for help. I'd be tempted to ask for a referral to an Endocrinologist. Specifically, how's your Estradiol? Meanwhile, take a look at Dr. Shippen's book, /The Testosterone Syndrome/ lmac hb <hbailey21@nmia.com> wrote in news:4fu5h4pjpvtkcf6f9p6582aakqtoorplp4@ 4ax.com: > I'm 60. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > 2008, PSA of 5.8 - another needle biopsy (negative results) I've had two also. > The uro offered no thoughts on how to deal with a high PSA- more like > 'see you next year and we'll stick you again'. Easy money. > For the past 18 months, I've taken saw palmetto with nettle and > pumpkin seed - but then my PSA was the highest its been this year. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Any suggestions on how to lower PSA? Stop getting PSA tests. That's what I did. At 74, I'll probably outlive PC. Ken Signature"When you choose the lesser of two evils, always remember that it is still an evil." - Max Lerner Ken <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in news:Xns9B4F671382DDinvalidcom@ 130.133.1.4: > At 74, I'll probably outlive > PC. Stupid! I meant I'll die of something else before PC gets me. Signature"When you choose the lesser of two evils, always remember that it is still an evil." - Max Lerner Visit gemini-aquarius2.com You will find Wonderlabs Selling herbs (EDTA oral chelation) Cloudnine - Apecializing in Anti-aging Products Affiliates - Amazon - Ebay - Travel Agency ect... > Ken <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in news:Xns9B4F671382DDinvalidcom@ > 130.133.1.4: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Stupid! I meant I'll die of something else before PC gets me. on 11/7/2008 12:07 PM Ken said the following: > hb <hbailey21@nmia.com> wrote in news:4fu5h4pjpvtkcf6f9p6582aakqtoorplp4@ > 4ax.com: [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Ken Gotcha. Too late to worry about bathroom visits. If I wake up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom, I know I'm still alive. :-) SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ >>Hello: I had bladder pain a few years ago, and with a regular x-ray, a >>one inch bladder stone was found. I had a very small prostate (29 [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >I've seen 3 uro's over the years. None much cared about >relating helpful advice. That's typical. Many doctors don't say much that is useful to their patients. And what they do say might sound technical, so you might have trouble understanding. So, since we know that, it is up to us patients to get info ourselves. Read up on your conditions. You will discover lots. And you will be able to ask better questions when you see the doc, and with a better chance you will understand the answer. In the olden days we went to the library to learn about stuff. Now everybody can get all the info they want from the Web. Google it! http://tinyurl.com/5rxpnj Ed >That's typical. Many doctors don't say much that is useful to their >patients. And what they do say might sound technical, so you might [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >http://tinyurl.com/5rxpnj You are very helpful, Ed. You are very helpful, Ed. You are very helpful, Ed. Thank you very much, Ed. Thank you very much, Ed. Thank you very much, Ed. :-) G'bye, S'long, Peetie >>If meds don't work or stop being effective enough, then it is time for >>surgery. The main options are TURP and PVP. > >I'd consider Haitian VooDoo Magic before I'd consider going under >the knife. If meds are not sufficient and you are not able to pee, there are not that many options left... o Voodoo magic o Self-catheterization several times a day o Surgery o Death. Ed >>What is causing the bladder pain? Your uro must have investigated >>that. What has he said? Are you maybe in retention all the time? That [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >bunch. I pee, the volume isn't great, pain is relieved. It doesn't >feel like there's much left in there. Since you say "don't think", you probably don't know. You could be retaining a lot of urine and not know it. You should find out by consulting qualified medical help as soon as possible. If you are in retention, this could be permanently wrecking your bladder and your kidneys too. Ed >>>What is causing the bladder pain? Your uro must have investigated >>>that. What has he said? Are you maybe in retention all the time? That [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Ed He is also on a lot of medications. Can any of them be part responsible for his problem. Derek. ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- I've had 2 prostate biopsies due to 2 high PSA tests. Both results were negative. After the least biopsy, the urologist just says 'see you next year' - no suggestions on how to keep the prostate healthy. A year ago, I started saw palmetto with nettle and pumpkin seed. 2 yrs ago my PSA was 4.2 - down from 4.7. This year it was 5.9 I can't see having a yearly needle biopsy. Punchinig 12 holes in the prostate every year cannot be beneficial. What exactly causes the PSA to go high? Can anything be done to lower PSA levels in non cancerous prostate? > I've had 2 prostate biopsies due to 2 high PSA tests. Both results > were negative. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > What exactly causes the PSA to go high? Can anything be done to lower > PSA levels in non cancerous prostate? You could try a product called zyflamend. > I've had 2 prostate biopsies due to 2 high PSA tests. Both results > were negative. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > 2 yrs ago my PSA was 4.2 - down from 4.7. This year it was 5.9 If you are over 60 yrs old, you're good! > I can't see having a yearly needle biopsy. Punchinig 12 holes in the > prostate every year cannot be beneficial. Ain't THAT the truth!! > What exactly causes the PSA to go high? bladder pressure, infection, sex ... > Can anything be done to lower > PSA levels in non cancerous prostate? Sorry, not a whole hell of a lot. However, there is a prostate genetic test, and in Canada researchers have come up with 4 tests which taken together are vastly superior to PSA alone. Badger your UA to find out more. Visit gemini-aquarius2.com You will find Wonderlabs Selling herbs (EDTA oral chelation) Cloudnine - Apecializing in Anti-aging Products Affiliates - Amazon - Ebay - Travel Agency ect... >> I've had 2 prostate biopsies due to 2 high PSA tests. Both results >> were negative. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Badger your UA to find out more. Gemini-aquarius2.com Visit the Greatest Online site for Auction (Ebay) - Market Place - Affiliates (Wonderlabs - Health Products) (Cloudnine - Anti-aging Products) News, Entertainment, and Money connection on the web. >> I've had 2 prostate biopsies due to 2 high PSA tests. Both results >> were negative. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Badger your UA to find out more. > I've had 2 prostate biopsies due to 2 high PSA tests. Both results > were negative. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > What exactly causes the PSA to go high? Can anything be done to lower > PSA levels in non cancerous prostate? Been seeing the same Uro for almost 10 years. His approach is: if it increases 10% from one year to the next, do a retest in 90 days. If there's another increase then 'consider the next move.' I had a 20% jump in PSA several years ago and on the 90 day re-test it fell back to what it was the year before. So, I've no clue as to what his "next move" might be. Over the long pull, my PSA has fallen, bph has worsened slightly and my 'T' is down about 20% from where it was 10 years ago. My weight also dropped 10% during that period so my E2 is probably down. According to the good Dr. Shippen, getting the E2 under control is a good deal for the prostate. ...lmac >> I've had 2 prostate biopsies due to 2 high PSA tests. Both results >> were negative. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > ...lmac Do you get both E1 and E2 tested? Have you ever had the genetic test? I hear that the brits or canadians have a new test with 4 parts that is a much better indicator. Maybe your Uro can shed some light on that!-) From: lmac5491@yahoo.com (lmac) henrybailey21@msn.com wrote: I've had 2 prostate biopsies due to 2 high PSA tests. Both results were negative. After the least biopsy, the urologist just says 'see you next year' - no suggestions on how to keep the prostate healthy. A year ago, I started saw palmetto with nettle and pumpkin seed. 2 yrs ago my PSA was 4.2 - down from 4.7. This year it was 5.9 I can't see having a yearly needle biopsy. Punchinig 12 holes in the prostate every year cannot be beneficial. What exactly causes the PSA to go high? Can anything be done to lower PSA levels in non cancerous prostate? Been seeing the same Uro for almost 10 years. His approach is: if it increases 10% from one year to the next, do a retest in 90 days. If there's another increase then 'consider the next move.' I had a 20% jump in PSA several years ago and on the 90 day re-test it fell back to what it was the year before. So, I've no clue as to what his "next move" might be. Over the long pull, my PSA has fallen, bph has worsened slightly and my 'T' is down about 20% from where it was 10 years ago. My weight also dropped 10% during that period so my E2 is probably down. According to the good Dr. Shippen, getting the E2 under control is a good deal for the prostate. ..lmac ===> hi Imac - have you had a free psa test ran? this would ease the concerns on having pca. the free psa number should be above 25 and it drops as prostate cancer develops. but using the psa test and the free psa test. this will give you at least some idea of what's going on inside your body. all the best, ~curtis knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional "Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so." http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc ... > What exactly causes the PSA to go high? In addition to cancer: Age, enlargement, bladder pressure (!), BM, and exercise! >... >> What exactly causes the PSA to go high? > >In addition to cancer: > >Age, enlargement, bladder pressure (!), BM, and exercise! What's BM? Ed >> ... >>> What exactly causes the PSA to go high? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Ed A very very old shorthand for bowel movement, get it? >>> ... >>>> What exactly causes the PSA to go high? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >A very very old shorthand for bowel movement, get it? OK, thanks. In that case, you left out sex. Ed >>>> ... >>>>> What exactly causes the PSA to go high? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Ed a form of exercise?-) > From: lmac5491@yahoo.com (lmac) > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so." > http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc ================== My psa has been quite low (usually under 1.0 ) and doesn't approach any of the popular limits. Father had PCa but it was secondary to a couple of other cancers. I'm observant rather than concerned so haven't pursued any genetic tests. Good news: About two years I managed a 15 lb weight loss and E2 came down. Bad news: My height has decreased and that yielded a BMI increase. Hard to win the aging game! :-| ...lmac One thing to consider if you haven't already done so. In my case I had the BPH taken care of with TUMT and PVP. What I found out after those interventions was that I had an additional problem caused by thickening of the bladder wall which can lead to small capacity. In my case I still get up 1-2x per night. My daytime frequency is about the same every 3-4 hours. My brother who had an open prostatectomy for a large prostate reports that his night time frequency issue has not been solved by his surgery. Have you ever had a cysto? What did that reveal? It might be time to do so if you have not had one to more clearly define what is going on. The pain issue is one that I think should be answered by a uro. My two cents for what it is worth. I tried some of the meds for overactive bladder without much change in night time frequency. > I am 62 and with BPH for many years. A single Flomax .4mg used to help. > For the last 1.5 years, I've been taking 2 Flomax .4mg every evening. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Thanks, > Peetie |
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