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Cooled Thermotherapy Experiences?

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Robert E. Yorke - 09 Jan 2008 03:52 GMT
List:

Has anyone any experience to share regarding the Urologix, Inc. Cooled
Thermotherapy procedure for BPH?

My (current) Urologist seems to be trying to steer me away from either
PVP or the Holmium Laser Ablation of the Prostate (HOLAP)...

I'm getting concerned enough with this Uro to start looking seriously
for another Urologist; PVP for the most part has done marvelously well
for members of the group....and HOLAP also has a rather good track
record.

TIA!
Salmon Egg - 09 Jan 2008 04:18 GMT
On 1/8/08 7:52 PM, in article ocg8o3tf1ohoeop5djcv1dep50c1o8j1ll@4ax.com,

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In my case, it did not work!

Bill
Rich256 - 09 Jan 2008 21:45 GMT
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Me either.  I gave it a try but went PVP a year later.

The TUMT was the most painful.
  My thought is that when a Dr. doesn't recommend laser it means he
doesn't have one.

However, the TUMT might be worth the try.  They told me 85% success.
Perhaps that means up to 85% relief.  Almost nothing for me.  Flomax
made me dizzy to the point I would not use it.

Bill,
You an EE?  I think I remember seening your post in that group.  I
rarely look at that one anymore.
Dick

hrlilien@yahoo.com
Chockman - 09 Jan 2008 18:29 GMT
Cooled Thermotherapy is another name for the TUMT (transurethral
microwave therapy of the prostate) which is accomplished by many devices
including the Targis and Prostatron systems.  You can google any of
those names for more information.

I had Prostatron therapy July 2, 2004 and it helped for a while, but
ended up with PVP October 2005 because the TUMT only cleared about half
of the length of the prostatic urethra.  I think it is worth trying, but
you need to consider the fact that a lot of TUMT patients end up with a
PVP or another procedure later anyway.   If the TUMT works, you have
attained your objective.  If not, then there is always the next step.

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Self - 31 May 2008 02:33 GMT
It's interesting that some of you guys have been posting as long as you have.
I had the Prolieve TUMT yesterday at around 10:00, local time.  I will say
that I had one last talk with my uro just minutes before going for it.  In my
case, my symptoms were far milder than most of the guys who've posted here
(no nocturia, for example), and I was mainly interested in getting off the
Flomax and the retro it's caused, after years of taking it. My uro's
credentials are good - former teacher at Duke Med School, head of urology at
a local hospital, etc., and he's qualified in all the procedures.    After I
came down on the side of the TUMT, he said that he felt it was a good choice
and what he would have done, given my symptoms.  Well, to cut to the chase, I
can only report for the first and second days.  The procedure was taxing - 45
minutes is a long time to endure with the burning and urge to urinate, but
not unbearable, like some of the reports I've seen.  I was medicated with
ativan, mepergan fortis and a bladder relaxant.  I was able to void right
after the procedure.  The remainder of yesterday, I was woozy and urination
was painful, with a weak stream.  I was up three times last night, urinating
with some difficulty.  Today, urination is still frequent and difficult,
because of the internal swelling, but the intense burning is gone, with just
a twinge upon initiation.  If I don't get a good, and fairly lasting, benefit
from the TUMT, I'll be moving on to the PVP procedure.  I'll try to post from
time to time.  I feel that the group is suffering from attrition of those
who've had a good result and it may skew the posts somewhat.  BTW, I'm 68, a
few months short of 69 and in good general health...
Robert E. Yorke - 10 Jan 2008 08:01 GMT
Thank you so very much for your responses!  It's now obvious that
either PVP or Holmium is really the best way to go...Can anyone
recommend an experienced and skilled Uro for this in the Soeuthern
Californis area?

TIA!

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Rich256 - 10 Jan 2008 21:37 GMT
> Thank you so very much for your responses!  It's now obvious that
> either PVP or Holmium is really the best way to go...Can anyone
> recommend an experienced and skilled Uro for this in the Soeuthern
> Californis area?
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> TIA!

Dr. David Laub of Santa Barbara and Dr David  Reiter UCLA have both
been mentioned here with high scores.  Information is available by
searching them on this group.
Robert E. Yorke - 11 Jan 2008 01:41 GMT
Rich256:

Thanks for the information; if I can't find 'em here I'll find 'em on
the 'Net...As well, please excuse my mis-spells on "Southern
California"!

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>> either PVP or Holmium is really the best way to go...Can anyone
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>been mentioned here with high scores.  Information is available by
>searching them on this group.
 
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