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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate BPH / August 2007

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Question about TURP

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Wayne - 20 Aug 2007 14:31 GMT
I am on the max dose of xtral and the doc says that the next step is a turp.
That's all we have available in Ottawa.
My psa has been going up steadily for the past few years and I have had 3
biposies with no cancer found.
I am expecting that some day they will find some.
In the meantime, I need a turp as sometimes when I wake up in the middle of
the night and have great trouble passing urine.
My understanding of the turp is that the urethra is cut to make a bigger
passageway.
Will this in any complicate the future radical prostatectomy?

Thanks
Wayne in Ottawa
Ed - 20 Aug 2007 16:26 GMT
>I am on the max dose of xtral and the doc says that the next step is a turp.
>That's all we have available in Ottawa.
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>Thanks
>Wayne in Ottawa

Hi, Wayne.

There are PVP practictioners in Toronto and the Toronto area. Many
feel that PVP is a better alternative than TURP... although you should
investigate and decide that for yourself.

Yes, a channel is cut. I think it is more accurate to say that the
prostate gland is hollowed out, from the urethra inward. This is the
way TURP and PVP both work. (But PVP uses a laser to do the tissue
removal.)

I don't see how a TUPR or PVP would affect a future prostatectomy, but
I'm not a doctor.

BPH does not increase the chance of getting prostate cancer. So your
chances are the same as anybody else.

Ed
Rich256 - 20 Aug 2007 16:27 GMT
> I am on the max dose of xtral and the doc says that the next step is a turp.
> That's all we have available in Ottawa.
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> Thanks
> Wayne in Ottawa

Total removal of the prostate should not be a problem.

Check around a bit.  I think PVP is available in your area.

http://www.canhealth.com/may04.html#anchor30138
Wayne - 21 Aug 2007 03:30 GMT
> Total removal of the prostate should not be a problem.
>
> Check around a bit.  I think PVP is available in your area.
>
> http://www.canhealth.com/may04.html#anchor30138

My concern with either PVP or turp, is that the urethra is destroyed and
what is left is scarred prostate tissue through which the urine can pass.
If the prostate is removed, there is no urethra where the prostate used to
be.
Does this make sense?
Maybe I should be asking this question of a NS concerned with cancer and not
BPH
Wayne
Ed - 21 Aug 2007 06:40 GMT
>> Total removal of the prostate should not be a problem.
>>
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>be.
>Does this make sense?

The mucous lining of the urethra is indeed destroyed where the
prostate is. It grows back, though... takes a while.

A prostatectomy wipes out the whole thing, true. After that, prospects
are very good, I'm told. No more prostate growth either. The big
downside to an open prostatectomy is that it is very hard on you.
Consider where that prostate is... just about the most inaccessible
part of the body. One of the side effects of open is death. Really.
There is significant mortality. But if you are strong and if you
survive (and most do, of course), then it leaves you in a good
position.

Ed
Rich256 - 21 Aug 2007 14:41 GMT
> >> Total removal of the prostate should not be a problem.
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

As I pointed out before, prostatectomy is not what it used to be.  An
it is the most complete method for prostate cancer.
A couple friends had severe problems with the seeds treatment.

http://www.davinciprostatectomy.com/treatment_options.html

http://www.porterhospital.org/index.php?s=optional_2
Wayne - 22 Aug 2007 16:18 GMT
> The mucous lining of the urethra is indeed destroyed where the
> prostate is. It grows back, though... takes a while.
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>
> Ed
Thanks for that reply
I talked to a fellow I met on an Alaska cruise last month. He lives in Maine
and he had a prostatectomy using laproscopic surgery and he said it went
well.
I hope by the time I need it, that will be available here otherwise I may
just take a trip to Maine.
Wayne
Ed - 22 Aug 2007 18:03 GMT
>> The mucous lining of the urethra is indeed destroyed where the
>> prostate is. It grows back, though... takes a while.
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>and he had a prostatectomy using laproscopic surgery and he said it went
>well.

Interesting... but would be mainly for prostate cancer, right?

Ed
Wayne - 22 Aug 2007 18:45 GMT
.

>>> The mucous lining of the urethra is indeed destroyed where the
>>> prostate is. It grows back, though... takes a while.
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>
> Ed
Yes, for prostate cancer
 
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