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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate BPH / August 2007PROSTATE PROBLEM
I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 MILES OR MORE I HAVE TROUBLE URINATING. I HAVE THE URGE TO GO!! BUT IT WILL ONLY DRIBBLE OUT..SOMETIMES NOTHING AT ALL, BUT I STILL HAVE THE FEELING I HAVE TO GO. AFTER MY RUN IT MAY TAKE A COUPLE OF HOURS BEFORE I CAN URINATE FREELY. MY DOCTOR HAS PRESCRIBED ADVODART AND I HAVE BEEN TAKING ONE A DAY FOR 2 WEEKS NOW. ANYONE HAVE ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE OR HAS ANYONE EVER HEARD OF RUNNING CAUSING THIS PROBLEM? OBVIOUSLY, THE STRESS OF DISTANCE RUNNING IS THE CAUSE BUT I'M LOOKING FOR SOME INPUT! THANKYOU!! >I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED FOR > AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 MILES OR [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > OBVIOUSLY, THE STRESS OF DISTANCE RUNNING IS THE CAUSE BUT I'M LOOKING > FOR SOME INPUT! THANKYOU!! try ferrum picricum a homeopathic-works for me--get 30c take 4 every hour or so .. until you start to go Michael I have to get it online... http://www.abchomeopathy.com/shop.php?abrev=Ferr-pic >I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED FOR > AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 MILES OR [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > OBVIOUSLY, THE STRESS OF DISTANCE RUNNING IS THE CAUSE BUT I'M LOOKING > FOR SOME INPUT! THANKYOU!! Dehydration ? Derek. > I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED FOR > AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 MILES OR [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > OBVIOUSLY, THE STRESS OF DISTANCE RUNNING IS THE CAUSE BUT I'M LOOKING > FOR SOME INPUT! THANKYOU!! It is very rude to type in caps. Are you shouting at us. > > I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED FOR > > AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 MILES OR [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > It is very rude to type in caps. Are you shouting at us. I AM NOT A TYPIST! BY THE WAY, YOU DIDN'T END YOUR QUESTION WITH A QUESTION MARK. THAT WAS RUDE! >>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED >>> FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 MILES [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I AM NOT A TYPIST! BY THE WAY, YOU DIDN'T END YOUR QUESTION WITH A > QUESTION MARK. THAT WAS RUDE! f.ck YOU. > >>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED > >>> FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 MILES [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > - Show quoted text - OBVIOUSLY, SINCE YOU WERE SO UPSET AT MY USE OF CAPITAL LETTERS AND NOT THE LEAST RESPONSIVE TO THE CONTEXT OF MY QUESTION, YOU HAVE AN INFERIORITY COMPLEX! I DARE SAY YOU HAVE NO ABILITY TO SUCCESSFULLY PERFORM THE ACTION YOU HAVE SO BRILLIANTLY DESCRIBED. PERHAPS YOUR BABY FINGER WILL DO A BETTER JOB. HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY AND DON'T FEEL SO BAD ABOUT YOURSELF. PERHAPS THERE IS A GROUP AVAILABLE FOR YOU FOR THOSE NOT HAPPY WITH THE SIZE OF THEIR PENIS. GOD LOVES YOU TOO. >> >>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED >> >>> FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 MILES [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > SO BAD ABOUT YOURSELF. PERHAPS THERE IS A GROUP AVAILABLE FOR YOU FOR > THOSE NOT HAPPY WITH THE SIZE OF THEIR PENIS. GOD LOVES YOU TOO. Don't worry about Pete. He storms off this group forever every now and then:-) But he just lurks until he can find a new target. Derek. >>>>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED >>>>> FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > SO BAD ABOUT YOURSELF. PERHAPS THERE IS A GROUP AVAILABLE FOR YOU FOR > THOSE NOT HAPPY WITH THE SIZE OF THEIR PENIS. GOD LOVES YOU TOO. nala...my syntax, grammar, vocabulary and spelling are second to none. I do not consider it necessary to always put a question mark after asking a question (I use them sometimes), since it is implied that it is a question - but that is way above your head, since anyone that types in caps is a complete a.shole, and would be thrown out of most newsgroups immediately for continually doing that. Typing in caps is an absolute disgrace, and right on top of the bad etiquette list for newsgroups. BTW, did you notice how difficult it is to read your stupid a.s messages typed in caps. The rest of the people in this group are obviously too ignorant (or too chicken sh.t) to agree with me on this. As far as my foul language, I call them the way I see them. I used to be a regular in here, before the group became a bunch of boring, redundant bullshit about PVP's and BPH, and then I took some sh.t from one of the participants, and now I am out. And shame on you Derek for badmouthing me. I used to think you were an okay person. Anyway nala, you really ought to stop typing in caps (I was actually trying to help you at first). If you can afford a computer, and figure out how to get into this ng, then you can sure as hell learn how to use the shift key, and stop "blinding" everyone with your stupid a.s caps, because you are too lazy to use the shift key. If you keep doing it in other ng's, I guarantee you they will blast the hell out of you. Pete pete Do you know the difference in the "Shift key" and the "Caps lock key". Beings your so smart lets get it right. DP >>>>>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED >>>>>> FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Pete > pete > Do you know the difference in the "Shift key" and the "Caps lock > key". Beings your so smart lets get it right. DP Duh!!! on you DP. I meant exactly what I said. What planet do you live on, not to understand what I said. People like nala use the caps lock key, and type everything in caps, because they are lazy, and do not want to take the time to use the shift key to create a capital letter at the beginning of a sentence. Duh again, for me having to explain that to you. I meant nala is too lazy to use the shift key, just like I said. And furthermore, you are also an a.shole for top posting which is another very bad thing to do in ng's. You answered my last post at the top and you should have answered it below my post (it's called bottom posting for your info). Obviously you know nothing about this, or you wouldn't be doing it. If you notice I answered your post after it (in the middle of the text), but at least I followed your answer, so it can be read in the proper sequence. You are a real jerk. You not only know nothing about BPH, you don't know anything about ng etiquette either. >>>>>>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE >>>>>>> TRAINED FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >> you keep doing it in other ng's, I guarantee you they will blast the >> hell out of you. Pete >> pete >> Do you know the difference in the "Shift key" and the "Caps lock [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > proper sequence. You are a real jerk. You not only know nothing about > BPH, you don't know anything about ng etiquette either. Pete, You are right. I didn't know about using the shift key to create a capital letter at the begining of a sentence. I apoligize. I learned something to day that I should of already known but I know about bottom posting, just messed up, sorry. However I don't think that everybody that makes a mistake is a jerk or any other name that you want to call them. Name calling has no place on the newsgroup. You write a nice informative post but the newsgroup dosen't need the vulgarity. Thanks DP >>>>>>>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE >>>>>>>> TRAINED FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >>> you keep doing it in other ng's, I guarantee you they will blast the >>> hell out of you. Pete >>> pete >>> Do you know the difference in the "Shift key" and the "Caps [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > You write a nice informative post but the newsgroup dosen't need the > vulgarity. Thanks DP Thanks DP...I really am a good person, and always try to help people, but a couple of posters in here got on my nerves a while back and I dropped out like I said. I apologize for some of my rudeness and vulgarity, but not to the Patrician, or to the a.shole named Al (who started it all way back). I am sorry for calling you a jerk...Pete >>>>>>>>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE >>>>>>>>> TRAINED FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] >>>> you keep doing it in other ng's, I guarantee you they will blast >>>> the hell out of you. Pete >>>> pete >>>> Do you know the difference in the "Shift key" and the "Caps [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > not to the Patrician, or to the a.shole named Al (who started it all way > back). I am sorry for calling you a jerk...Pete Thanks Pete, I'm also sorry for some of the things I've said in the past. I hope we can start over and contribute to the benefit of the members of this newsgroup. Pete please don't just be a read only participant you have valuble and knowleable information to contribute, that has helped me in the past. Looking forward to your post in the future. DP >>>>>>>>>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE >>>>>>>>>> TRAINED FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] >>>>> you keep doing it in other ng's, I guarantee you they will blast >>>>> the hell out of you. Pete >>>>> pete >>>>> Do you know the difference in the "Shift key" and the "Caps [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > helped me in the past. > Looking forward to your post in the future. DP Thank you DP...I sincerely appreciate that...Pete >>>>>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED >>>>>> FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Pete Pete, you used to be an asset to this NG. Now you just set out to provoke people, why? Derek. >>>>>>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE >>>>>>> TRAINED FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > provoke people, why? > Derek. Thanks Derek...see my last post to DP. I will try to stay in "read only" mode unless I see something that may be wrong or misleading to someone (in the interest of helping them), and I will also try to improve on my vulgarity - but if it is warranted (ie, someone starts on me), I will defend myself. You have to admit that typing in caps is the scourge of ng's, and nala doesn't even realize that it is very painstaking to try and read someone's post that is all in caps (it is difficult at best, and actually puts a strain on your eyes). Take care Derek. I really used to like most of you guys (and felt close to some of you), and the group peaked out when Dr. Sancha left to go on to bigger and better things. He was an awful nice person (and so knowledgeable), like I have said so many times in the past. Pete PS - And I was not the only one who ever corrected people on spelling of meds or other things. Ed used to do it from time to time, if you noticed - lol . >>>>>>>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE >>>>>>>> TRAINED FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > meds or other things. Ed used to do it from time to time, if you > noticed - lol . I don't think that any doctor can really have the time to post regularly on NG's. One or two did post here years ago when I first started reading it. As with Dr Sancha they probably found it too demanding of their time. Derek. >>>>>>>>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE >>>>>>>>> TRAINED FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > started reading it. As with Dr Sancha they probably found it too > demanding of their time. Derek. I agree, and don't see how he lasted as long as he did (and I still believe he takes private e-mails). As I stated many times - I wish he was my urologist, and that all urologists were as kind, and caring, and as knowledgeable as him...Pete. > YOU HAVE AN INFERIORITY COMPLEX! No, I believe it is YOU who has an inferiority complex and has to type in all CAPS. ploink!!!!! Pete, it comes down to this simple fact: You're a dick. > Pete, it comes down to this simple fact: > > You're a dick. Hey a.shole...why did you reply to "the california chef" and call him Pete. Although I do happen to think that posting in CAPS is both unsightly and rude if that's any consolation. Pete, What is more rude than using vulgarity on the newsgroup? I think you have a mental problem. DP >>>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED >>>> FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 MILES [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > f.ck YOU. > I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED FOR > AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 MILES OR [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > OBVIOUSLY, THE STRESS OF DISTANCE RUNNING IS THE CAUSE BUT I'M LOOKING > FOR SOME INPUT! THANKYOU!! I use Avodart with great benefits, sleeping longer without getting up to pee more than once or twice a night. I also jog, though much less than you, one hour at at time, just over 5 miles. From my personal experience running has no effect on my BPH. Being hydrated is good advice in any athletic endeavor. Ask your doctor how long it takes for Avodart to work and whether there is another medicine you can take. > > I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED FOR > > AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 MILES OR [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > athletic endeavor. Ask your doctor how long it takes for Avodart to work > and whether there is another medicine you can take. Thank you for your input. My doctor told me it would take a few weeks before I see any results. i am also taking the advice about staying hydrated. Pete, if you notice, I am taking your advice about capital letters. i am far from lazy..as evidenced by the fact that I run 10 miles a day..have a career..and a large family. I am simply a bad typist. no need to use bad language to make a point. I didn't realize using capital letters was a no -no .i will try and change my ways. thanks everyone for all the advice. >>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED >>> FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 MILES [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > using capital letters was a no -no .i will try and change my ways. > thanks everyone for all the advice. Bravo nala...I apologize for my bad language...Pete :-) I'll try not to be too crushed by the disappointment at the lack of an apology, Pete. As for you being a good person, I'm seeing scant evidence of it recently or, indeed, historically. However, people can change. Can you change, Pete? We'll see. > I'll try not to be too crushed by the disappointment at the lack of an > apology, Pete. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > We'll see. Yes...but it's usually for the worse - lol . I will try to do better. > >>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED > >>> FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 MILES [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I had an appointment with my doctor today. He explained to me that there is a dramatic flow of blood to the area around the prostate during extreme or extended physical activity. the expanding blood vessels coupled with an already enlarged prostate restrict the urine flow. About an hour or two after resting the flow is about back to normal. he said the advodart should start to help after 3 weeks or so of use. he did say that some individuals respond to flomax somewhat quicker. I thought i would pass on this info to help anyone else worried. Have a good evening. >>>>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED >>>>> FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > worried. > Have a good evening. nala...did your doctor (I assume your primary care physician based on your OP) give you an idea how enlarged your prostate is. I assume he did a standard digital exam. It may take longer than 3 weeks for the avodart to start to help (if it is going to help), and you may want to try taking the flowmax with it (ie concurrently). The flowmax should start working very soon and will relax the muscles in way of the prostate. If you take both, one of the bad parts, is that you now may have two different types of side effects (but you didn't indicate you were having any problems with the avodart). I am sure you have read in this ng about some of the negative experiences with flowmax. I can't take any of the alpha blockers because they plug my nose up immediately. If you don't get any improvement with the avodart (problem is it could take a long time to find out), then you may want to ask your doctor about taking the flowmax with it. Another problem with taking two or more drugs at the same time, is that you might not know which one is helping (or hurting) the most, unless you phase them in and out somehow. In this case if you add the flowmax and you get almost instant relief, then you have to decide whether it is worth taking the avodart for a long time to see if it decreases the size of your prostate [which your doctor may not be able to tell (at least not accurately) by doing a digital exam]. Sorry, I am starting to ramble. Good luck...Pete It takes a man to make the effort. Good on you, Pete. >>>>>> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED >>>>>> FOR AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > starting to ramble. Good luck...Pete Thanks Pete for the very informative > reply to nala which kind of hits on my problem to. I have been taking Avodart for about a year and at about three months my night time visits went from four or five times a night to not more than once sometimes none it lasted for a couple months and I thought this is great but after about two months my night trips to the bathroom reverted back to the four or five times a night and has stayed that way since. I also take Hytrin two mg in the morning. I take it for blood pressure as much as for the prostate. I saw my Uro about a year ago then he said it wouldn't help the nighttime visits but for some reason something did for two to three months. I 'm going to ask him about this but I was wondering if any one in the group has any thoughts on this. Thanks for any input on this. P.S. My name in the future will be "Dean" instead of DP > I have been taking Avodart for about a year and at about > three months my night time visits went from four or five times a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > one in the group has any thoughts on this. Thanks for any input on > this. P.S. My name in the future will be "Dean" instead of DP Dean...I have reread some of your previous posts in the 6/22/07 thread. Out of curiosity, when did you start taking the hytrin (ie before or after the avodart, I assume before), and if you took it before, did it seem to help your frequency (it wouldn't seem so if you were going four of five times a night when you started the avodart, unless you used to go even more often before that). In other words do you have any feel as to whether the hytrin is helping your urinary problems (as an aside, I believe the alpha blockers are kind of passé now for treating high blood pressure in itself - but if you have been taking them for a long time, and you and your doctor are pleased, then forget my comment). You will have to ask the man upstairs as to why you were getting relief for two or three months (after being on the avodart approx. three months), and then it stopped. A common sense answer may be that whatever was helping, stopped working - dunno. I am also curious why your uro said the avodart wouldn't help the nighttime visits, although I believe you said he put you on it because your prostate grew back considerably after your PVP. I acknowledge what you said about the trabeculation also. Did your current uro do the PVP, and has he mentioned doing another one, and has he suggested another cystoscopy to take a look. Pete >> I have been taking Avodart for about a year and at about >> three months my night time visits went from four or five times a [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Pete Hi Pete, I wish that I had the answers to this nightmareas problem that we have, then maybe I could help the people in this newsgroup more but everytime I think I'm turning a corner on it I run into another stonewall. One of these days if we search long enough we may not find all the answers but maybe we will find some of them and that will help us. That is what this newsgroup is all about I'll try and answer your nice reply. I have been taking Hytrin for ten years or longer. I started taking it primaryly for BPH. I think it helped some but not alot but I found that it also helped my blood pressure. I wish that I could figure out what gave me the relief those two to three months it was almost like being Heaven sent ,I think you know what I mean but it disapeared and hasn't returned. One thing I forgot to mention in my previos post was that my volumne has decreased from maybe 250 cc to about 150cc. I don't know why he said it wouldn't help the nighttime visits but come September that will be one of my many questions to him. He didn't do the PVP he is strickly a Turp guy I had to travel to Ashland, KY to get it done as I am from WV and no one does it there. My prostate has always grew at a tremendous rate, when I had the PVP 4 years ago it was 93 grams and I assume it would be alot larger now. He hasn't mentioned have another cystoscopy maybe because I passed on his Turp and went for the PVP. Thanks Pete for your adttitude and smarts, Dean >>> I have been taking Avodart for about a year and at about >>> three months my night time visits went from four or five times a [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > maybe because I passed on his Turp and went for the PVP. Thanks > Pete for your adttitude and smarts, Dean Thanks Dean...I wish I could help you more. I live in western Maryland and no one (all six uro's are in one complex) does PVP here either. I have had TUIP in 1995 in another county, and TURP here in 2005. I requested another cysto last year by one of the other uro's in the partnership (they let me do that, which is unusual) and I could clearly see the guy who did the TURP cut away nicely on the lateral lobes but he didn't cut the median lobe. The uro who did the cysto noticed it immediately (he called it a hump), and he didn't have to tell me, because I saw it the same time he did. He said it wasn't bad when I asked him, but I disagree. I had previously asked the uro who did the TURP if he cut around in a 360 degree circle (if you follow me), and he said yes, and that he connected the dots from the previous TUIP slices that had scarred over and created a blockage. I think he connected the dots, but forgot to cut between the 4 o'clock and 8 o'clock dots (which is approx. where the previous slices from the TUIP were). Damn it :-) . I will probably need another procedure again someday, and would like to try the PVP next time. I notice there is a guy across the border in PA who has just showed up on Laserscope's doctor list. I only have one person to help me, and it is difficult at best, when I need to go under anesthesia for surgical procedures, or my EGD's, or a colonoscopy, etc. And having to travel to another city just makes it worse. The thing that bothered me the worst about the TURP was the catheter for 3 days (I couldn't stand it), which I have stated in here before (when I had my TUIP, I had no catheter). Are you totally against having a TURP. The rule of thumb is that it is more invasive, but perhaps it may last longer, as has been stated in here many times by others. It also depends on the skill of the surgeon, and hopefully he will end up with a nice round channel when he's done - lol . Sorry for the rambling again. Did your uro refer you to the guy in KY who did the PVP, or perhaps you didn't need a referral. Is your uro disgruntled because you had the PVP in lieu of the TURP. If you are still seeing him, at least he hasn't dismissed you :-) . Take care and I wish you well. Pete >>>> I have been taking Avodart for about a year and at about >>>> three months my night time visits went from four or five times a [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] > Pete > Pete, From reading most of your old post I know you haven't had a very easy time down threw the years and I hope things go better in the future. I have also spent alot of time with a catheter in me. I went on a vacation a few years ago and ended up with a chatheter in me all the time I was on vacation. Took it out myself when we got back from vacation. I had a chatheter four times due to complete urinary retention.That is when I got serious about the PVP. > If you have a PVP in the future it will need to be done by a surgeon that > will take the time to do an agressive PVP, which I'm sure you already know > this, I forget that you and Dr. Shantez ( pardon the spelling) was very > close. I still go to his Blog and read it ever so often. It sure would be > nice to locate a doctor here like him. I'm not totaly against having a turp but I don't think I need any surgery right now to bad you can't do these surgeries once and have it over with. I located my surgeon on Laserscope website and went straight to him.(Dr. Stehpen Edge) I think he had only done about six PVP's when he done mine and he might not of been aggresive enough. It dosen't seem like my regular URO cares about passing up his Turp but who know what is on their minds. Have a great 4th Dean, > I passed on his Turp and went for the PVP. Sorry but for those of us who are new here - can you explain what is a TURP and PVP? Thank God for Flomax... Take a look at the AUA site for discussion of the various treatments and their outcomes...lots of good information. TURP is the transurethral rescection of the prostate using a cutting wire to remove tissue and the PVP is the greenlight Photoselective Vaporization of the Prostate. Just do a google search on them for further information. http://www.auanet.org/guidelines/bph.cfm >>I passed on his Turp and went for the PVP. > > Sorry but for those of us who are new here - can you explain what is > a TURP and PVP? > > Thank God for Flomax... >I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED FOR >AN ANNUAL FALL MARATHON. DURING PRACTICE RUNS OF ABOUT 10 MILES OR [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >OBVIOUSLY, THE STRESS OF DISTANCE RUNNING IS THE CAUSE BUT I'M LOOKING >FOR SOME INPUT! THANKYOU!! Some doctors say Advodart is now good. They usully recommend FLOMAX which has its own set of side effects. I hear that it works very well for these problems though... on 8/23/2007 10:33 PM null said the following: > >> I AM A RUNNER. I AM 52 YEARS OLD .THE LAST 7 YEARS I HAVE TRAINED FOR [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I hear that it works very well for these problems though... > I had been using both Avodart and Flomax at the same time for about two years. Avodart does not seem to be doing anything, including one of the side effects which was that it was supposed to help revert male pattern baldness (like Avacore). That doesn't work either. :-) I still take Avodart, but I quit the Flomax. It did help somewhat, but the side effect of dizziness made me stop for safety reasons. Besides getting up from bed or sitting, kneeling or crouching down for a few minutes, and then getting up, almost came to passing out, where I would have to hold onto something until it passed. I would think that a runner, with increased blood flow to the legs, should not use Flomax.  SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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