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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate BPH / October 2003Two Weeks Post PVP
I'm a 71 year old geezer who had the PVP procedure a couple of weeks ago and am not yet sure whether it was of any help. I see the urologist tomorrow and hope he can reassure me that things will eventually turn out all right. I had the TUNA thing last year to no avail, but was told that the PVP procedure was far superior and would probably solve all my problems. Maybe so, but here's how things stand right now. I'm making trips to the john about 8 - 10 times during daylight and 3-4 at night. My average output at urgency is about 8 ounces, although once in a while I can crank out 12 ounces to much jubilation. I have burning every time, especially as the flow ends. The stream is generally weak, but dribbling has stopped. I had a lot of blood in the urine for 6 days after the procedure, but that's stopped. I have a dull ache in my rectum which I think has something to do with the prostate, but I'm not sure. I experienced it once in a while well before the PVP, but I feel it all the time since the procedure. It really nags me when I'm trying to go to sleep. I mentioned it to the doc a few weeks before the surgery, but, after a quick digital probe, he said it must be something else. Still, I'm not too sure he's right. I don't know if this is worth anybody's attention, but I'll welcome any comments. I've read other threads in this group and feel that there are a lot of savvy and caring guys that hang out here. I'll post again after I see the urologist. > I'm making trips to the john about 8 - 10 times during daylight and > 3-4 at night. My average output at urgency is about 8 ounces, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > doc a few weeks before the surgery, but, after a quick digital probe, > he said it must be something else. Still, I'm not too sure he's right. Your output sounds a lot like mine except that I never get 12 oz any more (355 mL). In my heyday, before bph, I could hit 600 mL. After TUMT, I would get 400, but since then, my ability to put out camp fires has greatly diminsished. Bill Terry, 70 year old Geezer here and PVP +18 with similar results. Still waiting for the miracle. Seems I never can fully empty bladder. Still waking every 1.5 hrs. Feeling I need to urinate most of time. Flow not up to your number. Let's hope it improves with time. Johnny Let me know what your Uro says. > I'm a 71 year old geezer who had the PVP procedure a couple of weeks > ago and am not yet sure whether it was of any help. I see the [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > I'll post again after I see the urologist. > Terry, > 70 year old Geezer here and PVP +18 with similar results. Still waiting for [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > > > I'll post again after I see the urologist. How large was your prostate and who did your PVP surgery? Dan > > Terry, > > 70 year old Geezer here and PVP +18 with similar results. Still waiting for [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Dan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you guys for responding to my posting. I saw my urologist today and was pleased at the lengthly and frank discussion we had. In brief, he assured me that my responses to the PVP so far are about what should be expected. He has done the TURP for many years and has just recently started with PVP. He thinks that PVP will indeed surpass TURP as the "gold standard", but will probably not be the instant cure that some are claiming. He told me that I should see gradual improvement over the next two months until our next appointment in December. He also reminded me that I was a little long in the tooth and should therefore not expect to revisit my pissing feats of yesteryear. He noted that my reactions are similar to those of his other PVP patients (one of which is another TUNA graduate.) I hope this is as encouraging to you as is was to me. I was pretty discouraged this morning, but feel a lot better now. In reply to Dan, my prostate is at 25 grams and A nice guy named David Brickel is my urologist. He practices in Bad Axe, Michigan, where I live. Good luck to all. Thanks again, Terry I don't think that I ever recorded prostate Size. My Uro in Lancaster Ca was Dr Houston One of the few in Southern Cal. Laser is brought up from LA area along with a Tech. I was probably number 17 on his PVP kotch. Think I read the expert URO in Santa Barbara (Luabe?) is only up to about 50. So maybe we are on a technique learning curve. > > > Terry, > > > 70 year old Geezer here and PVP +18 with similar results. Still waiting for [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Terry Hi I went to Dr Laub in Santa Barbara, was about Nr 15 and am very happy. I would think that a surgeon is fully trained when he is let lose on the first patient. I would also hope that he does his best. Low flow can be due to other causes than BPH constriction. The bladder can harden and lose volume due to prolonged BPH. My experience is that the bladder improves with time. I hope this is also the case with you gentlemen. Fred Henzi > I don't think that I ever recorded prostate Size. > My Uro in Lancaster Ca was Dr Houston [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 50. > So maybe we are on a technique learning curve. > Subject: Re: Two Weeks Post PVP > From: "res09ynb" <res09ynb@verizon.net> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > 50. > So maybe we are on a technique learning curve. Apparently those with previous experience of doing BPH ops with lasers/turp have no problem with PVP as the techniques are very similar. Basically, these involve manipulating a probe at the end of a wire by watching the image on a monitor. Apparently they use a similar technique for drilling multiple oil wells from a single platform out at sea -- but on a slightly different scale, of course!<VBG> Derry What was your output before PVP? I do 6-7 oz. at best. Jim W. > I'm making trips to the john about 8 - 10 times during daylight and > 3-4 at night. My average output at urgency is about 8 ounces, . Greetings, > I have a dull ache in my rectum which I think has something to do with the > prostate, but I'm not sure. I experienced it once in a while well > before the PVP, I also had a dull ache in my rectum, this was diagnosed as Prosatitis, it really was bad, after antibiotics it ceased after 2 weeks, may find more info on: sci.med.prostate.prostatitis.  SignatureRegards, Peter peteratNOSPAMhull-me.co.uk > Greetings, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > really was bad, after antibiotics it ceased after 2 weeks, may find more > info on: sci.med.prostate.prostatitis. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim: Before PVP I was urinating 10-12 times in waking hours and 4-5 at night. I was generating 4-6 ounces each time. Some of this is due to the "precautionary pissing" I've gotten in the habit of doing before leaving the house for even a simple errand. As somebody noted before, anxiety plays a big role in these matters. By the way, in the last two days I've been the proud creator of a couple of leaks in the 10-12 ounce range. Knock on wood! Peter, I agree that the likelihood of prostatitis has been on my mind and my uro has given me some cipro and has sent a urine sample to the lab to test for infection. He felt my prostate and asked if the discomfort I felt from his touch was sililar to what I felt in my rectum . I had to admit that it not. He said that a large number of his patients over the years have complained about the same thing, but that it almost always turned out that the problem is due to earlier back injury or damage to the nerves leading to the bladder area. We'll see. Best of luck to all on this forum Terry That's (4-6oz) where I am now and I hope I can achieve your results (12oz) after my PVP. Thanks for the providing all this great info for us. Jim W. > Jim: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > two days I've been the proud creator of a couple of leaks in the 10-12 > ounce range. Knock on wood! No retro! It may just be wishful thinking, but I seem to be a bit more tumid (?)too. Anybody have any experience like this? Terry |
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