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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate BPH / March 2007bladder neck spasm
at the age of 36 I injured my back shortly afterwards I started going into urinary retension every few days to weeks. after about a year and trying every drug known to man I had a bladder neck incission and things settled down. ?<For about 4 years. Now I get sever bladder neck spasms which refuse to go away despite every drug known to my urologist being tried. I now have to self cathiterise four times daily as I am unable to pass any urine I now take morphine for the pain but still collapse with severe pain at time on my last visit to hospital I was told you have no feeling in your bladder neck and therefore can feel no pain there Any help or advice would be gratefully accepted. ps. i am in the uk >at the age of 36 I injured my back shortly afterwards I started going into >urinary retension every few days to weeks. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >ps. i am in the uk Is the pain from having a full bladder? Where do you feel the pain? P.S. I had a TUIP two years ago and so far it has helped me a lot. I am now 52.The drugs never really helped me. BTW: Morphine will increase your chances of retaining urine. >>at the age of 36 I injured my back shortly afterwards I started going into >>urinary retension every few days to weeks. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >am now 52.The drugs never really helped me. BTW: Morphine will >increase your chances of retaining urine. the pain is in my bladder neck feels like being kicked in the testicles but worse makes no diffrence if bladder is full or empty what does tuip stand for even without morphine I cannot pass any urine by myself >>>at the age of 36 I injured my back shortly afterwards I started going into >>>urinary retension every few days to weeks. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >even without morphine I cannot pass any urine by myself There are other muscles down there that do have pain receptors. As well as glands that also feel pain. What about PSA and DRE? Exactly what does your urologist say about the pain? Mike >>>>at the age of 36 I injured my back shortly afterwards I started going into >>>>urinary retension every few days to weeks. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Mike He said that the pain was probably caused by the nerve damage in my back and any further treatment to my bladder would not be of any real benifit. He also feels that treatment of symptoms is the best way forward for this moment in time and any further surgery would not be of benifit and would only consider surgery as a last resort. Visits to A&E tend to produce a mixed response of sympathy or pull yourself together the pain cant be that bad I only need morphine after having the spasms for about an hour . buscopan iv relives the spasm quite well the real pain seems to start when the spasm stops and it is one almighty ache and sickness is present during both phases of the attack. I take the morphine when I need it but prefer to do without it when I can. Can you use full names dre psa etc as i am new to the forum and the termanology is somewhat new to me >>>>> at the age of 36 I injured my back shortly afterwards I started going into >>>>> urinary retension every few days to weeks. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > dre psa etc as i am new to the forum and the termanology is somewhat new to > me If we used the full terminology for some such as PSA (Prostate-Specific Antigen) most would not know what we are talking about. DRE (digital rectal examination) most of us know all about. Both of course are methods of testing for Prostate Cancer and full descriptions can be found on the web. Do a Google on them. Where are you located? How many doctors have you consulted? >>>>>> at the age of 36 I injured my back shortly afterwards I started going into >>>>>> urinary retension every few days to weeks. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Where are you located? How many doctors have you consulted? yes prostate is in perfect condition both tests ok I have seen at least 7 doctors from urologists neurologistd orthapedic and anyone else in between I thought may have an opinion. I am in the uk I just seem to be going through a rough patch at the moment where I cannot walk very far without triggering the pain and also just need reassurance I think as I cant understand why the pain is so severe when it starts. I also suffer from ulcerative colitus and at the moment one complaint seems to be triggering the other >>>>>>> at the age of 36 I injured my back shortly afterwards I started going into >>>>>>> urinary retension every few days to weeks. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >suffer from ulcerative colitus and at the moment one complaint seems to be >triggering the other I am not a doctor, but I AM a Certified Health Nut, and I have cured myself of rheumatoid arthritis. Check Wikipedia and Google for further info or ask here if you don't understand my advice. I believe you when you say you have REALLY BAD nerve pain. Morphine is not very good at controlling nerve pain. Guess what is? Pot! See if your doc will give you a prescription. I've heard that the street version is better, though. I agree with your surgeon. Don't have any more surgery until you've exhausted the other options. Regarding your Ulcerative Colitis, I would bet that you haven't had a Celiac Panel to rule out that you don't in fact have Celiac Disease, which will absolutely screw you up. It is called "the Great Impostor". If you have Celiac Disease you will have to eliminate gluten from your diet. Ulcerative colitis is an EXTREME inflammatory condition. Get the book from your library "The Anti-Inflammation Zone" by Dr. Barry Sears. Follow his program. If you are overweight, lose weight. If you smoke, STOP. If you drink, drink dry red wine. Good Luck, Please let me know if this helps. Are you in London? Sincerely, BlackHawk >>>>>at the age of 36 I injured my back shortly afterwards I started going into >>>>>urinary retension every few days to weeks. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >dre psa etc as i am new to the forum and the termanology is somewhat new to >me Others addressed the acronyms besides it sounds like it is not a urological issue. Have any of the doctors, talked about epidural steroid injections in your back? Depending on the type of nerve damage these injections might reduce the nerve irritation reducing pain and maybe helping with retention. It really helps with my neck problems. Most likely it would be mentioned by a neurosurgeon, neurologist or pain specialist. At least you should look into treating the pain. You really need to go to a pain clinic or see a pain specialist about this. Only a pain specialist will adequately address pain management. Try posting in alt.support.chronic-pain. Someone there might be familiar with your problem. I still deal with retention as well. My problem is related to spinal cord compression in my neck. I do not have pain issues down below, just stream and retention problems. The TUIP really helped me with that and the injections and other treatments help with pain. I hope this helps. Mike >>>>>>at the age of 36 I injured my back shortly afterwards I started going into >>>>>>urinary retension every few days to weeks. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >Mike Yes thanks for your support it help just talking to someone who at least has some understanding of what im going through. I will contact doctors after the hollidays and see about better pain relife and will keep you informed. Anytime. Just email or post to this newsgroup or the alt.support.chronic-pain newsgroup. I am not a doctor nor am I an expert. I draw on my knowledge and experience to help. Many others do likewise. Happy Christmas! Mike >>>>>>>at the age of 36 I injured my back shortly afterwards I started going into >>>>>>>urinary retension every few days to weeks. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >I will contact doctors after the hollidays and see about better pain relife >and will keep you informed. So, how is life treating you? Mike |
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