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Joe - 18 Jun 2006 18:13 GMT
PVP

Forlorn's last post leads me to try and help.  He is a very good
writer, as you will see if you read his previous posts.  I will simply
go to the point
1. Before my PVP I did not medicate and only suffered, not pain, but
embarrassment.  Not be able to control prior to sitting donw to a
toilet, asking a friend to pull over to the side of the road, having to
change my clothes, etc.
2. I became informed about GreenLight, PVP and decided to do something
about BPH.
3. My internist gave me two local names and I discovered others.  Dr.
Reiter @ UCLA was not avail and Dr. Laub, locally was.  Why these two
finalist?  Number of procedures.  At that time Laub had done 140.
4. Dr. Laub said that I had not tried medication or anything else.  I
informed him that I was not practicing medicine and would listen, but
that having been exposed to the clinical documents that I was there
because of GreenLight.
5. Surgery at Cottage Hospital at seven 30 a.m.  To my glee released at
two p.m.  I say that because I barely voided.  I made the mistake of
looking and it was just droplets and it stung so much I was concerned
that I would have to go home with a catheter if I went at all.
6. At eight p.m. urinating like an 18 year old and drove to a local
party the following day Saturday.
7. Yes I passed some blood and for a couple of weeks the start of
urination was pinkish.  I also passed some blood clots and tissue.
8. The singing sensation of the first day was relieved by a medication.
9. My results were so gratifying that I convinced three friends to have
it done.  One of them had had a TURP some years prior.
10. All three are very happy with the results.  Two of the three were
told that they should have a Prolieve or TUMT.  I believe that is a
pocket book issue, but the uros might say I am practicing medicine.
11.  I never medicated because I didn't want the side affects and
most of them are not curative simply palliative.
12.  Now a year and a half later, my experience has been wonderful.  I
am in good health and reasonably good physical condition, 73 years of
age.
13.  So go to an uro that does PVP not holium that has done it 100
times.
Hope this helps someone, and good luck.
frank - 19 Jun 2006 19:36 GMT
thanks for the positive post.  i went to dr laub over 3 yrs ago and also am
very happy, at 72 yrs of age now.

> PVP
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> times.
> Hope this helps someone, and good luck.
Bill - 19 Jun 2006 21:44 GMT
Gadzooks, not only might the unit at the other end
on the internet be a dog, but an OLD dog at that!!

Maybe this group is where to smoke them out.  I had
a PVP at age 63 and it worked great.  My wife RN was
amazed at how trouble free it was, having seen some
TURPs in her youth.

Bill Hale

> thanks for the positive post.  i went to dr laub over 3 yrs ago and also am
> very happy, at 72 yrs of age now.
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> > times.
> > Hope this helps someone, and good luck.
Rich256 - 19 Jun 2006 23:49 GMT
> Gadzooks, not only might the unit at the other end
> on the internet be a dog, but an OLD dog at that!!
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>
> Bill Hale

And as reported a couple days ago Laserscope says they have something
even better:

"Greenlight high performance system"

They upped the power of PVP just a short time ago and now have a whole
new system:

http://www.laserscope.com/gethps/greenlight.html

I expect it's pretty much the same but faster.
forlorn hope - 21 Jun 2006 10:06 GMT
> Joe wrote:
> frank wrote:

....good posts restoring the positive balance. I think Joe's point about the
embarrassment of BPH is important.  I remember some weeks after my PVP
putting on an old pair of light coloured trousers and thinking, "Oh, I can
wear these now."  Then I realised I had been avoiding wearing anything that
might show dribbles and damp patches, without really acknowledging the fact.
Even prior to my acute retention I had been using cubicles in the Gents in
pubs, all these irritations now long gone, thank goodness.
Best wishes
Huw
Rich256 - 21 Jun 2006 15:08 GMT
>> Joe wrote:
>> frank wrote:
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> Best wishes
> Huw

As we said before it affects everyone differently.  Actually I am a bit
the other way around now.  At night I was awakened every hour and
dribbled out an ounce or so.  During the day I could go for quite a bit
longer but still very slow getting it out.

Now I can sleep three or four hours but when I have to go, I have to go
right now.  Same during the day.  When the urge hits I need to find a
bathroom soon or there might be some damp patches.
Pete - 21 Jun 2006 18:49 GMT
>>> Joe wrote:
>>> frank wrote:
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> go right now.  Same during the day.  When the urge hits I need to
> find a bathroom soon or there might be some damp patches.

As I have reported before, my previous TUIP and TURP both caused me to have
stress incontinence when coughing, etc, and some leakage at night.
Apparently the work in way of the bladder neck caused it (assuming the uro's
didn't compromise the external sphincter), even though that should be rare
according to our Dr. Sancha...Pete
 
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