I don't normally post here but your post caught my attention. Before
I'd let someone carve on my plumbing, I'd try some other things first.
Lay off coffee and regular tea. Drink green tea. Watch the spicy
foods. Lay off the alcohol.  Watch the fluid intake in the evening.
Watch your salt intake at dinner. I'm 59, have had the same symptoms
for years, and these things are as they are. I've taught myself to get
up, go pee, then go back to bed and fall back to sleep immediately
without really waking up. Maybe you're just getting so pissed off at
waking up that you keep yourself from going back to sleep.
FWIW
YMMV

Welcome to the group Bobcat.  We can always use some new blood.  Anyway,
there is lots of info in here on PVP's versus TURP's, and we have an awesome
doctor in the group (search his messages - "fgomsan").  Just browse around.
I see you have the standard social medicine waiting list in Canada :-) .
There are several people in here from Canada, and I can't recall the status
on PVP's in Canada these days (perhaps they can join in).  I live in the
U.S.

I have had both TUIP and TURP, and would much prefer the PVP (recognizing I
am basing that on research only), but they don't do them where I live.  If
you are suffering, I would agree with others in here that have stated "screw
the pills and go for the surgical fix".  This is not to say I am an advocate
of surgery for anything.  Surgery should always be a last resort type of
thing, but in the case of BPH, it may be worth it especially since you said
the Flomax and Proscar weren't helping.  It may be too early for the Proscar
to take effect, but the Flomax should have helped immediately if it was
going to help.

Take care...Pete

I think there are some machines in Canada.  Their use may not be covered
by the National Insurance.  Four weeks post PVP and I have only praise
for the procedure.  Only a little problem the very first day.  Steady
improvement ever since.

http://www.nationalsurgery.com/FCSC/procedures-greenlightpvp.php

I was just looking around and saw a link on the Laserscope site to a May
10, 2005 Canada Free Press:

http://www.laserscope.com/surgical/professionals/press.html#

In it was this note:

<quote>
Dr. Edward Woods, a Toronto urologist at Scarborough General Hospital,
is also enthusiastic about PVP. He states he has been able to perform
PVP on patients who would otherwise not be suitable for any of the
current procedures due to the size and fragility of the prostate gland
<quote>

Another link also references Scarborough Hospital.

http://www.laser-medical-systems.ch/webtexte/zitate_urologie_urologen.html