LoFric Catheters (for Nelson)

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Pete - 09 Jan 2006 03:49 GMT

Nelson...I just downloaded the lofric users manual. Had trouble finding the
site since you spelled it lowfric in your post in this ng - but I found
another one of your posts in the web which corrected the spelling :-) . I
will read about it later, still haven't eaten yet - damn it.

Anyway let me ask you something. You said you wash yours, and reuse them to
save costs. Once you wash them you will remove their patented lube system.
Are you saying the gel you use is just as good when you reuse them...Pete

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Nelson - 09 Jan 2006 09:57 GMT

> Nelson...I just downloaded the lofric users manual. Had trouble finding the
> site since you spelled it lowfric in your post in this ng - but I found
> another one of your posts in the web which corrected the spelling :-) . I
> will read about it later, still haven't eaten yet - damn it.

You don't eat them... read the manual :-)

> Anyway let me ask you something. You said you wash yours, and reuse them to
> save costs. Once you wash them you will remove their patented lube system.
> Are you saying the gel you use is just as good when you reuse them...Pete

I have never used them. I probably would if I could afford them. I
like the patented lube system but as you noticed they are single use
and somebody has to pay for that patent :-)

I use 16 inch Mentor 10 Fr. My wife ordered a box of 30(?) of them for
around $35. Even so, that's pretty expensive for single use so we
reuse them without problem. Just wash carefully before and after each
use (I use a rubber bulb syringe to clean the inside) and hang up to
dry. For lubricant we use Surgilube. You can get a tube at the
pharmacy for about $3. I used to soak them in a bleach solution
between uses also, but we have found that unnecessary and it degrades
the tubing after a while.

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fgomsan@gmail.com - 09 Jan 2006 19:57 GMT

I guess your solution is OK, although it probably carries a slightly
higher risk of infection. The beauty of self intermittent
catheterisation is that putting a catheter in for seconds and pulling
it out leaving an empty bladder has a very small risk of infection.

I had a patient relatively long time ago that was a sheperd, he was
always in the mountains and had a neurogenic bladder that never
contracted, and he needed to catheterise five or six times a day. Up in
the mountains he carried the catheter inside his hat and did not wash
during the day, he never had an infection....

Fernando Gómez Sancha
http://drgomezsancha2.blogspot.com

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Derek F - 13 Jan 2006 19:09 GMT

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Pete - 09 Jan 2006 21:39 GMT

>> Nelson...I just downloaded the lofric users manual. Had trouble
>> finding the site since you spelled it lowfric in your post in this
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> I use 16 inch Mentor 10 Fr. My wife ordered a box of 30(?) of them
> for around $35.

Nelson...where do you get them and are they latex free (totally). I'm not
allergic to latex, but just wondering. I'm not ready to cath yet, but like
the idea of having some on hand in case something happens, and me and ER's
don't get along, and I live by myself with no one to help me. I searched
caths a while back and saw some had latex underneath the coating (even
though they were so called latex free),or some horseshit like that...Pete

Even so, that's pretty expensive for single use so we

> reuse them without problem. Just wash carefully before and after each
> use (I use a rubber bulb syringe to clean the inside) and hang up to
> dry. For lubricant we use Surgilube. You can get a tube at the
> pharmacy for about $3. I used to soak them in a bleach solution
> between uses also, but we have found that unnecessary and it degrades
> the tubing after a while.

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Tom Harms - 09 Jan 2006 23:42 GMT

I called Lofric and they sent me some free (6) samples ~ several types. I
haven't used them yet, but I like having them, if required. Tom

>>> Nelson...I just downloaded the lofric users manual. Had trouble
>>> finding the site since you spelled it lowfric in your post in this
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>> between uses also, but we have found that unnecessary and it degrades
>> the tubing after a while.

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Pete - 10 Jan 2006 00:19 GMT

> I called Lofric and they sent me some free (6) samples ~ several
> types. I haven't used them yet, but I like having them, if
> required. Tom

Tom...How the hell did you get their number (they are over in Sweden, and
part of the huge Astrazeneca). I searched all over the friggen lofric web
pages and could find no toll free number or pricing info, or much of
anything for that matter. And I also did some searches for purchasing
lofric catheters and didn't have a lot of luck with that either. I live in
Maryland in the U.S...Pete

>>>> Nelson...I just downloaded the lofric users manual. Had trouble
>>>> finding the site since you spelled it lowfric in your post in this
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>>> between uses also, but we have found that unnecessary and it
>>> degrades the tubing after a while.

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Tom Harms - 10 Jan 2006 00:42 GMT

After checking the ASTRA package I was sent, there is at least ten catheter
kits. I'm in Northern Virginia, Fairfax County, USA. Try 1-877-456-3742.

>> I called Lofric and they sent me some free (6) samples ~ several
>> types. I haven't used them yet, but I like having them, if
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>>>> between uses also, but we have found that unnecessary and it
>>>> degrades the tubing after a while.

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Tom Harms - 10 Jan 2006 00:55 GMT

http://www.astratechusa.com/Main.aspx/Item/265814/navt/122/navl/57048/nava/57051

> After checking the ASTRA package I was sent, there is at least ten
> catheter kits. I'm in Northern Virginia, Fairfax County, USA. Try
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>>>>> between uses also, but we have found that unnecessary and it
>>>>> degrades the tubing after a while.

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Pete - 10 Jan 2006 01:07 GMT

Thanks Tom...how the hell did you find the U.S. site - I was in the
international site "Int" - remember seeing it in upper left corner. I was
basically searching for "lofric" combinations, and all I got was
international which was a bunch of crap. Let me know so I can increase my
searching skills - lol .

Pete

> http://www.astratechusa.com/Main.aspx/Item/265814/navt/122/navl/57048/nava/57051
>
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>>>>>> bleach solution between uses also, but we have found that
>>>>>> unnecessary and it degrades the tubing after a while.

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Pete - 10 Jan 2006 01:22 GMT

Thanks Tom...I will call them. I used to design ships for the navy in the
dreaded "Crystal City" in Arlington, Virginia (I called it "cement city"),
and boy did I hate driving to work from the Maryland side. I'm in western
MD now in Washington county. Your not too far away from Arlington, I wonder
if there's anything left after the big downsizing we took from Clinton in
the mid 90's (I bailed out with an early out at age 49). Take care...Pete

> After checking the ASTRA package I was sent, there is at least ten
> catheter kits. I'm in Northern Virginia, Fairfax County, USA. Try
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>>>>> bleach solution between uses also, but we have found that
>>>>> unnecessary and it degrades the tubing after a while.

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Nelson - 10 Jan 2006 10:22 GMT

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> Nelson...where do you get them and are they latex free (totally). I'm not
> allergic to latex, but just wondering. I'm not ready to cath yet, but like
> the idea of having some on hand in case something happens, and me and ER's
> don't get along, and I live by myself with no one to help me. I searched
> caths a while back and saw some had latex underneath the coating (even
> though they were so called latex free),or some horseshit like that...Pete

We just ordered them through the local pharmacy. We had a prescription
but my understanding is that you only need a prescription if you want
insurance to reimburse you.

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Pete - 10 Jan 2006 21:33 GMT

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> prescription but my understanding is that you only need a
> prescription if you want insurance to reimburse you.

I've seen that you can order cath's on line. I assume you don't need an Rx.
I think the site below supplies your catheters...Pete

http://www.allegromedical.com/urologicals_catheters/intermittent_catheters/mento
r/self_cath_soft_16_long_funnel_end_box_of_30.P192499

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