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Why almost no mention of ILC (Interstitial Laser Coagulation of the Prostate)

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Jack Crane - 15 Jul 2003 06:30 GMT
Why is there almost no mention here of ILC (Interstitial Laser Coagulation
of the Prostate). I just had one.

Jack Crane
Patrick - 15 Jul 2003 13:24 GMT
Well Jack, tell us about it.
Did you leave surgury without a catether?
Did you go home the same day?
How is the improvement so far?
How is your recovery? Back to normal activity yet?
How about bleeding?  Do you have any?

Patrick

> Why is there almost no mention here of ILC (Interstitial Laser Coagulation
> of the Prostate). I just had one.
>
> Jack Crane
Lee M. - 16 Jul 2003 01:44 GMT
I am interested also.  There is no PVP doctor in my area but there is one
doing Indigo laser.  Am very interested in hearing about your experience,
either on- or off-line.

Lee

> Why is there almost no mention here of ILC (Interstitial Laser Coagulation
> of the Prostate). I just had one.
>
> Jack Crane
Jack Crane - 16 Jul 2003 14:48 GMT
> I am interested also.  There is no PVP doctor in my area but there is one
> doing Indigo laser.  Am very interested in hearing about your experience,
> either on- or off-line.

Lee, I just posted a detailed reply to Patrick. If you have any questions,
just ask here or by email.

Jack
Lee M. - 17 Jul 2003 02:04 GMT
> > I am interested also.  There is no PVP doctor in my area but there is one
> > doing Indigo laser.  Am very interested in hearing about your experience,
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>
> Jack

All I can say is Yikes!  Hope your condition improves soon.
Lee M. - 17 Jul 2003 02:22 GMT
> > I am interested also.  There is no PVP doctor in my area but there is one
> > doing Indigo laser.  Am very interested in hearing about your experience,
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>
> Jack

All I can say is Yikes!  Hope your condition improves soon.
Lee M. - 17 Jul 2003 21:14 GMT
> > I am interested also.  There is no PVP doctor in my area but there is one
> > doing Indigo laser.  Am very interested in hearing about your experience,
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>
> Jack

All I can say is Yikes!  Hope your condition improves soon.
Lee M. - 17 Jul 2003 22:41 GMT
bnd777 - 16 Jul 2003 20:06 GMT
As i understand it from the PVP doc in the UK ........he too feels all
previous forms of laser therapy have had major drawbacks/side effects which
thankfully Green light laser or PVP does not suffer from

> I am interested also.  There is no PVP doctor in my area but there is one
> doing Indigo laser.  Am very interested in hearing about your experience,
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> >
> > Jack Crane
Jack Crane - 17 Jul 2003 09:04 GMT
> As i understand it from the PVP doc in the UK ........he too feels all
> previous forms of laser therapy have had major drawbacks/side effects
> which thankfully Green light laser or PVP does not suffer from

Is there enough data on the long-term effectiveness of PVP to support a
urologist recommending it over ILC? I'm guessing, but PVP hasn't been
around very long, has it? I ask not for myself (I've had my ILC), but for
two friends who are looking for help with their BPH in the near future.
Also, they live in large metropolitan areas, in both of which there is only
one uro offering PVP, and many offering ILC.

Jack Crane
Jim W. - 17 Jul 2003 16:30 GMT
I had an  ILC about 2.5 yrs ago.  Some improvement in first 6mos - 1 yr but
now I'm almost back to as bad as pre-ILC.  Plan to contact Dr. Te in NYC in
next month or so to see about a PVP.  Jim W.

> I am interested also.  There is no PVP doctor in my area but there is one
> doing Indigo laser.  Am very interested in hearing about your experience,
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> >
> > Jack Crane
art - 23 Jul 2003 01:55 GMT
> Why is there almost no mention here of ILC (Interstitial Laser Coagulation
> of the Prostate). I just had one.
>
> Jack Crane

I went through Laseroptic (Indigo) on the 25th of june but so far
there has been no improvement. Actually I am worse off now however the
Dr. has told me that things will get better. I have an appointment
with him tomorrow to discuss my problems which are, feeling like I
have to urinate about ever hour(I get up every 2 to 2 1/2 hours at
night). Even after I urinate I stll stand there feeling as if I'm not
done. Sometimes I stand there for 5 minutes. There is almost a reflex
that wants to push it out which is very painfuland nothing actually
comes out except a drip or two of blood. There is also a terrible pain
in the tip of the penis and a burning sensation. I can't run because
of the pain it causes  in the tip of the penis. Internally there was
no pain what so ever. I had a cathater (sp)in for three days but ended
up removing it myself (a story in itself!) My flow is somewhat better,
actually a lot better most of the time but I tend to dribble on my
underpants and I can still see spots of blood. The Dr gave me Flomax
to take and I think that this might be adding to the problem. He said
that he may also give me another perscription to releive the pressure
and urgency. He also said that another cathater might solve the
problem but I told him no way! I think that was the worst part of the
whole procedure. I'm not saying that this doesn't work all I'm saying
is that the recovery period seems to be quite long. I'm 4 weeks into
it so far and as I said it's worse than it hqas ever been. One other
thing there is blood in my semen but he said not to worry about that.
 
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