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Thx for the "heads up".
Melbourne is a 3,500 mile, 1 way, road trip for me. I'm near Perth,
Western Australia.
I'll be seeing my Radiation Oncologist on Oct 19 and the Uro on Nov 10
and will ask the question re PVP.
Some schools of thought say any "reaming" of the urethra, by whatever
procedure would possibly NOT affect the Nocturia in old bastards like
me (70) , but only benefit the flow and lessen the retention. I'll be
asking this question as well.
In the interim, I'm doing about 80% on the Flomax.
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I considered asking which side of the country you were on.
Maybe you "youngsters" can take it better than me!! Aw, I'm only 76.
Gee, way, way back, before the war I remember I had a Pen-Pal in Lake Grace.
I still remember his name: Erik Kirk!!
I had the TUMT last May. The Dr. does PVP but talked me into trying the
PVP first. I may be back for PVP. I was helped by it but not as much as I
had hoped. Perhaps it is just that my bladder doesn't hold as much.
I think the PVP is coming most everywhere. What determines if they use it
here is which hospital they use. If the hospital doesn't have the laser
they use the old "roto-rooter". Right now my opinion is to avoid it if at
all possible. Some have good results but others, including a good friend,
have horror stories. The friend was in the hospital for two weeks. That is
why I was asking a few days ago if anyone had any bad results with PVP.
Appears that some did not get the relief they expected but none said really
bad things.
TUMT is perhaps the most painful as you are wide awake and get a minimum of
pain killer. No permanent pains but just a bunch of "ouches" when they
insert and remove things. No after effects except after a couple weeks you
might notice tissue being ejected. I only got a little chuckle out of the
woman who performed most of the procedure when I told her that in Arkansas
we would be legally married.
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This was posted by Gordon from Ispwich in Quuensland who had the Gyrus
procedure, but again too far away for you.
Derek.
My Uro said "with retention like that and your bladder pain, I suggest we do
a TURP".
I said "I want a PVP".
He said "we do Gyrus".
I checked out the Gyrus and Laserscope sites and read much the same
material. I've also followed this group for a long time so I have a handle
on what you PVP guys have experienced.
I'm 69, ultrasound showed a 300ml bladder with 190ml retention, 85ml
prostate, large medial lobe well into the bladder, PSA 4.2, no other health
problems.
23 March at 3pm, general anaesthetic, 5pm in the ward for an overnight stay
with a catheter with irrigation and a drip. No pain.
The worst part, catheter and drip removed at 11am the next day with burning
at the tip of the penis. 5 on a 10 scale.
Drink a lot of water, have to pass 3 retention tests. Home (10 minutes away)
at 3pm.
The next 2 days. Drinking lots of water, urine pink, pain in penis tip 8-9,
Uro rang, no cancer cells in the prostate residue, sitting mostly, a little
walking.
At the end of week one, urine clear, no pain, no stop/start, no drips,
haven't learned to hit the bowel every time yet. What's a laughing smiley
look like?
My Gyrus was done in the Ipswich General here in OZ by Dr Teng who said he
had taken quite a bit of the prostate out. Nice guy.
If anyone is interested I'll keep you up to date.
Gordon