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My extraordinary PVP experience - Thanks Patrick!

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Mr. B - 12 Apr 2005 22:01 GMT
Finally 'bit the bullet' and underwent PVP April 1, 2005.  What an
extraordinary experience.  In fact, I've waited until now to post my results
since I figured it couldn't be this easy - something was bound to be a
problem in the days following the procedure. Well, so far, everything has
gone smoothly, so my particulars follow:

Age: 59
Prostate approximately 40 grams
Primary complaint nocturia, although urine flow was very poor.

My surgery was done at UCLA by Dr. Robert Reiter. Checked in at 9:00 a.m.,
and surgery started at about 11:00.  Woke up at 12:00 in recovery room.  My
first surprise?  No catheter!!  What a relief! Had the urge to urinate, so
asked for a cup. Voided about 400mls.  Nice strong stream, with no pain.
Slightly pink tinged.  Checked out at about 1:00 p.m with my meds: Pyridium
(for urethra pain and bladder spasms), Vicodin, and Cipro.

Got home half an hour later.  Urinated, with slight pain at tip of penis.
Started drinking tons of water.  Urinated maybe an hour later.  Stream like
a firehose.  Not much of a surprise.  BUT, my second suprise - no pain
whatsoever on urinating.  None.  And virtually no blood in urine at all.

Since then I have been drinking gallons of water each day.  No pain
whatsoever. I have not taken one pain pill.  No Pyridium.  No Vicodin.  Not
even an aspirin.  Did take the Cipro to avoid any infection.  Flow continues
to be terrific (like a teenager).  Very small amount of blood in urine, but
only at night before I go to bed - suspect that this is because I curtail my
water intake an hour before, and I make a conscious effort to drain my
bladder to allow for better sleep. Others have posted to expect some
bleeding for about three weeks, so I've got some time to go.

Nocturia has already improved.  Prior to surgery I was up every 2 hours to
urinate.  Now,  I sleep about 5 hours before I have to get up.  Would be
curious if any PVP patients could tell me if, in their experience, this will
improve further.  Also, I'm urinating fairly frequently.  But there is a
very large volume voided each time I do so, so I suspect that this is in
large part a function of the huge amount of water I continue to drink.  Any
thoughts by others on this will be appreciated as well.

The bottom line is that, so far, I'm absolutely thrilled with the results.
I cannot express enough my profound gratitude to the great Patrick - the
pioneer in reporting to this group about the procedure.  He has, over the
years that I've followed this group, endured more than a few attacks from
other posters questioning his enthusiasm and motives regarding PVP.  All I
can say is "thank you Patrick - the knowledge which you have imparted to all
of us has dramatically improved my life, and the lives of many others in
this group."  And thank you also to all who have posted their PVP
experiences.  You all were instrumental in my finally getting the courage to
follow through with this procedure.

My follow-up appointment with Dr. Reiter is scheduled for April 27.  I'll
report further thereafter.  In the meantime any input from fellow PVP'rs
will be appreciated, and I'll be happy to answer any questions.

Mr. B
B. Conners - 12 Apr 2005 22:58 GMT
> Finally 'bit the bullet' and underwent PVP April 1, 2005.  What an
> extraordinary experience.  In fact, I've waited until now to post my
> results

Mr.B. indeed!
Patrick - You must stop sending mail praising yourself and the product you
are associated with.


Mr. B - 12 Apr 2005 23:50 GMT
You're kidding, right?

Mr. B
>> Finally 'bit the bullet' and underwent PVP April 1, 2005.  What an
>> extraordinary experience.  In fact, I've waited until now to post my
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> Patrick - You must stop sending mail praising yourself and the product you
> are associated with.
James - 12 Apr 2005 23:35 GMT
Mr B wrote:
> Now,  I sleep about 5 hours before I have to get up.  Would be
> curious if any PVP patients could tell me if, in their experience, this will
> improve further.

My PVP was 11/10/04 - almost 23 weeks ago.  I would answer 'yes' to your
above query.  I've kept a daily log.  There were many '2s' in the 'Nite
Time' column.  Then after about 6-weeks, it was all '1s'.   Lately, I've
noticed a goodly number of '0s'.  This is all predicated on an average sleep
time of 8-hours.  I like a lot of down time.  Also, I'm finding it easier to
go for 5-8 hours without a pit stop during the day.  Of course, I'm not
ingesting anywhere near the amounts you report.

I will readily say, your 'first few day' experiences were far different than
mine.  Mine were not that enjoyable.  But, I'm a staunch supporter of the
PVP procedure.

James
Mr. B - 12 Apr 2005 23:50 GMT
James,

Thanks, that's VERY encouraging.  It's way too early to know whether or not
I'll have retro, but even if I do, a good night's sleep is well worth it!

Mr. B
> Mr B wrote:
>> Now,  I sleep about 5 hours before I have to get up.  Would be
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> James
nambucca - 13 Apr 2005 19:42 GMT
> James,
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> IMHE ..........having had the removal of a 70gm median lobe by PVP July
2003 while retro existed for about 9 months its now totally non existant and
i could not be happier
Ron - 12 Apr 2005 23:58 GMT
Mr. B
Congrats on your great results!
You might want to start slowing down on the huge quantities of water. I
heard that it's best to just drink a "normal amount" whatever that is.
Your urgency situation & any other problems should improve as time goes on.
Ron

> From: "Mr. B" <nospam99trader@gte.net>
> Newsgroups: sci.med.prostate.bph
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> Mr. B
Mr. B - 13 Apr 2005 03:17 GMT
Thanks Ron.  I am, in fact, already gradually decreasing the amount of
water - and will return to 'normal' levels over the next week or so.

Mr. B

Mr. B
> Mr. B
> Congrats on your great results!
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>> Mr. B
Jim W. - 13 Apr 2005 16:55 GMT
Indeed he has  been responsible for getting many of us off our duffs (or
urinals) into better lives.  Jim W.

> The bottom line is that, so far, I'm absolutely thrilled with the results.
> I cannot express enough my profound gratitude to the great Patrick - the
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> experiences.  You all were instrumental in my finally getting the courage
> to follow through with this procedure.
frank - 13 Apr 2005 21:08 GMT
congrats on your fine results.  i suspect that having only a 40g prostate
had something to do with it (much less to remove).  mine was 105g and i had
some recovery problems, but , in fairness, i should have been less active
for the prescribed time.  now, after 26 months everything is still great.
no urinating needed for up to 5 hours.  sleep thru the night (although i
didn't have much of a problem with that before).  if you don't rush the
activity, you should keep having a great recovery.

> Finally 'bit the bullet' and underwent PVP April 1, 2005.  What an
> extraordinary experience.  In fact, I've waited until now to post my
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> Mr. B
 
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