I thought I would add my post-op experiences of PVP to this forum as I have
learnt a lot from reading other accounts.
I had Greenlight PVP yesterday morning to solve blockage caused by my
prostate growing into the urethra. Age 53, generally good health,
relatively small prostate for my age.
Surgery was conducted under general anaesthesia and everything has gone
well up till now and I hope it continues. I had more than the usual
bleeding and am still wearing a catheter until tomorrow. Output was very
bloody until this am and now it looks normal. The only pain I felt, after
waking up from the op, was of a full bladder and feeling I needed to pee
very very badly. This was simply the bladder muscle in spasm, which went
away with Ditropan. I also needed one percocet for intense pain in the
penis, but that went soon after and has not returned.
Now I am looking forward to having the catheter removed.
Dave
Michael Balarama - 12 Apr 2005 19:41 GMT
> I thought I would add my post-op experiences of PVP to this forum as I have
> learnt a lot from reading other accounts.
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> Now I am looking forward to having the catheter removed.
> Dave
good luck Dave-but aren't you concerned that it will grow back-I am about
your age-and when you are 15 years down the road-you might need another-
reem job..
Michael
Rich256 - 12 Apr 2005 22:18 GMT
> > I thought I would add my post-op experiences of PVP to this forum as I
> have
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> reem job..
> Michael
I would think it is better to have it done again in 15 years than try to
(unsuccessfully ?) control it with medications for all that time.
Dave Cory - 13 Apr 2005 01:23 GMT
Michael, yes I am worried that the prostate will continue to grow, but
there are several factors that contributed to my decision.
My bladder wall shows significant trabeculation and my uro was concerned
with further damage being caused by the obstruction that could lead to
catheterization.
Flomax has worked moderately well for several years but I do not like the
idea of taking a drug forever and besides it only raised my flowrate from 7
to 13 mls per second. It did not reduce the blockage sufficiently to
prevent ongoing damage to the bladder.
Another reason for not wanting to take a maintenance drug forever, besides
the ongoing muscle aches and tiredness, is the fear of serious damage being
caused somewhere in my body. In 1998 I had an adverse drug reaction to
Cipro and Levaquin which still affects me today, so I am not too fond of
pharmaceuticals.
I feel I made the right decision ... time will tell.
Dave
Magna - 14 Apr 2005 08:14 GMT
Dave, Interesting comments about adverse reaction to Cipro. I believe
I may have the same but my doc says not. How did you react.
Magna
> Michael, yes I am worried that the prostate will continue to grow, but
> there are several factors that contributed to my decision.
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> I feel I made the right decision ... time will tell.
> Dave
Dave Cory - 14 Apr 2005 16:19 GMT
My adverse reaction to Cipro was extensive and lasted several years. While
I was taking it the only effect was mild confusion, and did not seem
serious enough to stop taking the 30 day course. This was in 1998 for
suspected prostatitis. The main problems occurred months after I finished
and were numerous. Mental impairment, difficulty reading and writing, pain
in finger joints, soles of feet, small muscle spasms over the surface of my
body, tingling in extremities, ringing in ears, anxiety, the list goes on.
My doctor said it could not be Cipro as it was a very safe drug.
For the first year I did not connect my symptoms with an adverse reaction
to Cipro. But a year later I found a Yahoo forum named "quinolones" for the
family of antibiotics that include cipro,levaquin, ofloxacin, enoxacin and
others. After reading story after story of other peoples reactions I
realised what had happened.
Since then I have found doctors who agree with me and who have also seen
similar long term reactions.
I have also met several people who, after describing my reaction, realised
they too had had a reaction but had not connected it with taking cipro.
Having said that, I believe cipro is a safe antibiotic for the majority of
people that take it.
Dave
forlorn hope - 14 Apr 2005 18:33 GMT
> My adverse reaction to Cipro was extensive and lasted several year <snip>
I had a bad reaction to Cipro while trekking the Annapurna Circuit a couple
of years ago. I'd taken it after a couple of days of vomiting, and wasn't
aware that it increases the skins photosensitivity and can cause real
problems in bright sunshine, hence my impression of the Elephant Man in the
photograph.
See http://homepage.ntlworld.com/daniel.f/kagbeni.htm
It wasn't until a year later that I heard about some of the adverse effects
people had using Cipro. It's made me cautious about taking antibiotics
unless it's absolutely essential.
Huw
Michael Balarama - 14 Apr 2005 23:39 GMT
> > My adverse reaction to Cipro was extensive and lasted several year <snip>
>
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> unless it's absolutely essential.
> Huw
I never take drugs-even aspirin makes me wheezy-had to take one week of
cipro-had no problem at all-after the one week took a bunch of acidolphis
and yogurt
Michael
Steve - 15 Apr 2005 02:39 GMT
Took Cipro for 3 months and had no reactions at all.
Steve
>> > My adverse reaction to Cipro was extensive and lasted several year
> <snip>
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> and yogurt
> Michael
frank - 13 Apr 2005 21:12 GMT
dave, look into some of the prostate growth reducing treatments (saw
palmetto, etc.). your euro should have some recommendations.
>I thought I would add my post-op experiences of PVP to this forum as I have
> learnt a lot from reading other accounts.
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> Now I am looking forward to having the catheter removed.
> Dave
Rich256 - 13 Apr 2005 22:24 GMT
My experience is that Saw Palmetto is temporary at best. Unfortunatly there
is no extended testing of it to determine how effective or what problems it
may cause. There have been notices that it can mask the PSA test (and
Prostate Cancer). You Doctor administring PSA test must be aware that you
are taking Saw Palmetto.
> dave, look into some of the prostate growth reducing treatments (saw
> palmetto, etc.). your euro should have some recommendations.
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> > Now I am looking forward to having the catheter removed.
> > Dave
Ed - 13 Apr 2005 22:26 GMT
>dave, look into some of the prostate growth reducing treatments (saw
>palmetto, etc.). your euro should have some recommendations.
That assumes we in N. Americal would even have a euro.
Dave Cory - 14 Apr 2005 16:25 GMT
I tend to try herbal or "alternative" remedies first before resorting to
the standard medical approach. So I have tried saw palmetto products in the
past for long periods of time, but with no noticeable effect on my urine
flowrate. I have also tried pumpkin seeds and other herbal products. None
of them changed my flowrate.
Dave
Dave Cory - 14 Apr 2005 16:35 GMT
A brief update: My urologist decided to leave my catheter in till Friday as
he felt it would reduce scar tissue.
My procedure had been difficult, he said, since my blockage made it
difficult to get the laser optic head through the prostate. I passed a lot
of blood in the first 12 hours.
Now looking forward to Friday.
Dave
Dave Cory - 18 Apr 2005 16:06 GMT
Well, it's been a week now since the procedure. My catheter removal was
delayed three times due to continuing signs of bleeding. Finally had it
taken out today, a week after surgery. Removal was painless, to my suprise.
An hour later another pleasant suprise. I can now pee profusely! Also there
is no blood in the urine, no hesitancy, no post dribbling and no burning.
After 7 years of weak urination I am elated - I hope this lasts.
Dave