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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate BPH / April 2005

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Dean - 03 Apr 2005 20:07 GMT
Has the gold standard been changed to PVP or is it still turp, what is the
opinion on this now?
frank - 03 Apr 2005 21:09 GMT
who's opinion is worthy?

> Has the gold standard been changed to PVP or is it still turp, what is the
> opinion on this now?
Dean - 04 Apr 2005 01:25 GMT
I would think that when PVP surgeries out number TURP surgeries by a
considerable amount, which I think PVP out numbers TURP by about 3 to 1 now
it makes a pretty good case to be considered the gold standard.
> who's opinion is worthy?
>
>> Has the gold standard been changed to PVP or is it still turp, what is
>> the opinion on this now?
Rich256 - 04 Apr 2005 04:24 GMT
Does PVP really outnumber TURP?   My experience is that the majority of
doctors still do not have access to PVP equipment.  My URO told me that PVP
was not much different than TURP.  I searched and switched to a URO that
does PVP (He does not agree that they are similar).

I suppose the question is does "Gold Standard" mean quantity or quality.
Someone posted, from the Laserscope site it think, that 50,000 PVP had been
done up until December 2004.  Not bad considering that Laserscope says that
the FDA approved the Green Light laser in May 2001.

A post 1/25/05 "Re: PVP with Dr. Lin" From "Bill" had an interesting
reference where his Uro told him that TURP was the Gold Standard.  After
switching to Dr. Lin and getting the PVP he considers PVP the Gold Standard.

From what I also read, some may not like one of the side effects of PVP.  I
recently read that the chance of Retro is much greater with PVP than with
say TUNA.

> I would think that when PVP surgeries out number TURP surgeries by a
> considerable amount, which I think PVP out numbers TURP by about 3 to 1 now
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> >> Has the gold standard been changed to PVP or is it still turp, what is
> >> the opinion on this now?
Dean - 04 Apr 2005 14:09 GMT
Rich,
      My experience is that quality will turn into quantity at least for
Bph surgery. That is probably right as to retro with PVP as compared to Tuna
but mind reversed itself after about a year.
> Does PVP really outnumber TURP?   My experience is that the majority of
> doctors still do not have access to PVP equipment.  My URO told me that
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>> >> Has the gold standard been changed to PVP or is it still turp, what is
>> >> the opinion on this now?
Rich256 - 04 Apr 2005 15:35 GMT
That is my thought too.  I only question the original post that PVP
outnumbered TURP by 3 to 1.
I suppose it is fortunate that most of us are of ages where retro is not all
that important (Personally I wish that retro was important to me :-)

> Rich,
>        My experience is that quality will turn into quantity at least for
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> >> >> Has the gold standard been changed to PVP or is it still turp, what is
> >> >> the opinion on this now?
Repeating Rifle - 04 Apr 2005 01:53 GMT
> Has the gold standard been changed to PVP or is it still turp, what is the
> opinion on this now?

We have been off the gold standard for decades now. It used to be $35 US per
troy ounce. What this has to do with ream jobs evades me.

Bill
Dean - 04 Apr 2005 14:00 GMT
Bill,
    I have seem your name on this newsgroup several times so I would think
that surely you know that the BPH surgery that all other BPH surgeries is
measured by is called the "Gold Standard"

>> Has the gold standard been changed to PVP or is it still turp, what is
>> the
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>
> Bill
Repeating Rifle - 04 Apr 2005 19:53 GMT
> I have seem your name on this newsgroup several times so I would think
> that surely you know that the BPH surgery that all other BPH surgeries is
> measured by is called the "Gold Standard"

The rare stupid question deserves a stupid answer.

Bill
Dean - 05 Apr 2005 01:16 GMT
As stupid says; stupid goes

>> I have seem your name on this newsgroup several times so I would think
>> that surely you know that the BPH surgery that all other BPH surgeries is
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>
> Bill
RVerDon - 04 Apr 2005 07:07 GMT
> Has the gold standard been changed to PVP or is it still turp, what is the
> opinion on this now?
Depends on who you ask.

Don
 
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