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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate BPH / April 2005Going abroad for PVP
I have finally had an uro-dynamics test, after opting for private treatment, and the result has been fairly encouraging. The urologist said that I had a fairly small prostate but that it was growing in such a way as to impede urination and cause retention. My bladder is fine and in good working order, it just can't empty because of the obstruction. She said I had the sort of problem that would benifit from a TURP and I could expect excellent results from such an operation. I told her that I would prefer a PVP but that is not available in my area. I am now looking at funding a PVP operation later in the year, and wondered if anyone in the UK has considered going to Europe for treatment, which may be much cheaper than here. Someone posted a link a few weeks ago to: http://www.prostata-therapie.de/index_e.html in Germany. Has anyone any experience of this or any other clinic in Europe? Huw Huw - I'm "someone",-) About other places- I tried 2 university hospitals who started this procedure last year. I learned that there were not capable to do it then. I was Dr Deuster's 250th client, and I'm very pleased with the result. Regards Peter >Subject: Going abroad for PVP >From: "forlorn hope" <forlorn.hope@ntlworld.com> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >experience of this or any other clinic in Europe? >Huw "Peter Fackelmann" <pfackelmann@gmx.net> > I was Dr Deuster's 250th client, and I'm very pleased with the > result. Thanks Peter. Dr Deuster's website is very informative and the procedure would appear to be a lot less expensive than in UK. Definitely food for thought. Huw >Subject: Re: Going abroad for PVP >From: "forlorn hope" <forlorn.hope@ntlworld.com> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >thought. >Huw Don't tell him that he is too cheap - he might react,-) Regards Peter > I have finally had an uro-dynamics test, after opting for private treatment, > and the result has been fairly encouraging. The urologist said that I had a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Theres no reason whatever to have to go to Europe PVP can be done here by Gordon Muir at Kings College Hospital London He is both NHS and private and cannot be recomended highly enough both in terms of skill or humanity ......a rare find these days see www.london-urology.co.uk "nambucca" <nambucca@nospam.com> wrote in message news:d39k38 > PVP can be done here by Gordon Muir at Kings College Hospital London > He is both NHS and private and cannot be recomended highly enough both in > terms of skill or humanity ......a rare find these days That is good to know and I will keep him in mind. Things I'm considering at the moment are: 1. Dr Deuster's treatment would cost about ?1000 less than UK. 2. MRSA is not stalking the wards of German hospitals. Bit dramatic I know but I've just been reading the Sunday papers...... 3. It would be just as easy for me to get to Heidelberg as London from the north east, if not easier. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I'm going on a trekking holiday in the Himalayas (Ladakh) in August so I will probably put off surgery until September. I am self-catheterising daily, which will be a nuisance (especially in a tent at sub-zero temperatures!) but that may be better than coping with the possible after effects of PVP while trekking. So I have a bit of time to think about how, where and by whom I have my PVP. Peter, if you're still reading this, I see from Dr Deuster's website that he uses a local anaesthetic as the norm. Is this a spinal? Did you travel from UK or elsewhere in Europe? TIA Huw > "nambucca" <nambucca@nospam.com> wrote in message news:d39k38 > > PVP can be done here by Gordon Muir at Kings College Hospital London [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > TIA > Huw You can be in and out in 5 hours with Mr Muir and recovery will be 3 weeks maximum even then its only lifting stuff you should avoid as for after effects i did not have any ......only the pure joy of being able to go !!!instantly >Things I'm considering at the moment are: >1. Dr Deuster's treatment would cost about £1000 less than UK. >2. MRSA is not stalking the wards of German hospitals. Bit dramatic I know >but I've just been reading the Sunday papers...... Sorry, even using Oxford Advanced Learners Dictionary I don't understand this sentence,-) >3. It would be just as easy for me to get to Heidelberg as London from the >north east, if not easier. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >coping with the possible after effects of PVP while trekking. So I have a >bit of time to think about how, where and by whom I have my PVP. You should be back quite fit within 3 weeks max. >Peter, if you're still reading this, I see from Dr Deuster's website that he >uses a local anaesthetic as the norm. Is this a spinal? Did you travel >from UK or elsewhere in Europe? I live in Southern Germany. As spinal anaesthetic can hurt a bit, one gets first a mild general one, then the spinal. Quite comfortable. Regards Peter "Peter Fackelmann" <pfackelmann@gmx.net> wrote in message > >2. MRSA is not stalking the wards of German hospitals. Bit dramatic I know > >but I've just been reading the Sunday papers...... > > Sorry, even using Oxford Advanced Learners Dictionary I don't > understand this sentence,-) MRSA is endemic in many UK hospitals and is responsible for up to 5000 deaths per year, or more depending on which report you read. It is a problem that causes concern for any patient entering a NHS Hospital in Britain. As far as I know Germany does not have problems with this particular antibiotic resistant infection. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2572841.stm Peter and nambucca, thanks for your replies, I'll let you know which way I go. Huw > "Peter Fackelmann" <pfackelmann@gmx.net> wrote in message > >2. MRSA is not > stalking the wards of German hospitals. Bit dramatic I know [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > go. > Huw > I will bet they have the problems they just dont publish them Anyway PVP is done as day surgury unit and your stay will be 5 hours if you went to Kings I can assure you the operating rooms are sterile and since you wont have an open wound or a catheter your chances of getting MRSA are minimal I would go with someone who is tried and tested and is considerate I rejected one arrogant SOB who is top of the tree in Urology and another who was incompetant ......as soon as i met Muir i did not hesitate >wondered if anyone in the UK has considered going to Europe >Theres no reason whatever to have to go to Europe >PVP can be done here by Gordon Muir at Kings College Hospital London Just a humble question: Isn't The UK in Europe? Isn't London in Europe? Regards Peter "Peter Fackelmann" <pfackelmann@gmx.net> > Just a humble question: > Isn't The UK in Europe? > Isn't London in Europe? Tricky questions. Geographically or mentally............?! |
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