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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate BPH / April 2005PVP v Gyrus
My Uro said "with retention like that and your bladder pain, I suggest we do a TURP". I said "I want a PVP". He said "we do Gyrus". I checked out the Gyrus and Laserscope sites and read much the same material. I've also followed this group for a long time so I have a handle on what you PVP guys have experienced. I'm 69, ultrasound showed a 300ml bladder with 190ml retention, 85ml prostate, large medial lobe well into the bladder, PSA 4.2, no other health problems. 23 March at 3pm, general anaesthetic, 5pm in the ward for an overnight stay with a catheter with irrigation and a drip. No pain. The worst part, catheter and drip removed at 11am the next day with burning at the tip of the penis. 5 on a 10 scale. Drink a lot of water, have to pass 3 retention tests. Home (10 minutes away) at 3pm. The next 2 days. Drinking lots of water, urine pink, pain in penis tip 8-9, Uro rang, no cancer cells in the prostate residue, sitting mostly, a little walking. At the end of week one, urine clear, no pain, no stop/start, no drips, haven't learned to hit the bowel every time yet. What's a laughing smiley look like? My Gyrus was done in the Ipswich General here in OZ by Dr Teng who said he had taken quite a bit of the prostate out. Nice guy. If anyone is interested I'll keep you up to date. Gordon ps. TV report recently said St Vincent's (sp) (Melbourne?) is doing PVP. Hello Gordon, Yes,please keep us posted. Sounds like a great result from maybe another procedure worth considering. best wishes Richie >My Uro said "with retention like that and your bladder pain, I suggest we do >a TURP". [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >ps. TV report recently said St Vincent's (sp) (Melbourne?) is doing PVP. Thank you, will do. Gordon > Hello Gordon, > Yes,please keep us posted. Sounds like a great result from maybe [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > > >ps. TV report recently said St Vincent's (sp) (Melbourne?) is doing PVP. > My Uro said "with retention like that and your bladder pain, I suggest we > do [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > ps. TV report recently said St Vincent's (sp) (Melbourne?) is doing PVP. Hi Gordon, Glad to hear your op was successful. I live in Melbourne and did not know that PVP was introduced into Oz. Do you have a link to the TV report re. St. Vincent's PVP operation? Would you mind explaining the difference between PVP and the Gyrus procedure you had? Thanking you in advance, John > > My Uro said "with retention like that and your bladder pain, I suggest we > > do [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Glad to hear your op was successful. Thank you. > I live in Melbourne and did not know that PVP was introduced into Oz. Do you > have a link to the TV report re. St. Vincent's PVP operation? No, I'm sorry I don't. It was maybe a couple of weeks ago. You might try checking the FTA networks, I think they usually keep an archive of their broadcasts. I didn't catch it all but it was a computer graphic of the laser probe doing its job and the commentary described the benefits over TURP. The urology department at St Vincent's would be better or your GP if he's on the ball.;o) > Would you mind explaining the difference between PVP and the Gyrus procedure > you had? The procedures are the same except PVP uses a laser probe and Gyrus uses a plasma probe. Both work the same way ie seal the wound, less bleeding, can be day surgery, quicker recovery etc. You might like to check out www.gyrus.com or put gyrus into google. > Thanking you in advance, > > John So far I'm very happy with my op, as I said, the only problem was the catheter withdrawal. I wonder why they have to make them so big :o( All the best Gordon >> Hi Gordon, >> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Gordon Thank you very much for the info Gordon and I wish you a full and speady recovery. Regards, John It is St Vincents in Sydney the urologist is Philip Stricker. See: http://www.abc.net.au/news/health/sophie_scott/newsitems/s1327806.htm > It is St Vincents in Sydney the urologist is Philip Stricker. > > See: > > http://www.abc.net.au/news/health/sophie_scott/newsitems/s1327806.htm Thank you very much Magna for the info and limk. This is good news and hopefully it will be intoduced to melbourn soon. I can wait that long I guess. John >> It is St Vincents in Sydney the urologist is Philip Stricker. >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >John Hello John, Melbourne Royal hospital have had a PVP machine for nearly 2 years. They were the first and only in Australia until now. They have been running trials ( ! ) . Very difficult to find out what they are up to,so am glad to see that Sydney has finally got in on the act. Send Melbourne Royal an email : you will get a response. I did a year ago but it wasn't very encouraging. Also there is this... http://www.freemasonshospital.com.au/harewoodurology.html#top All the best Richie >> It is St Vincents in Sydney the urologist is Philip Stricker. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > John Before you jump on the bandwagon, be aware you may only be a stat on the graph. Lasers for other surgeries were supposed to be the end of all suffering and in fact ended up the opposite. Don't jump in too soon. Let someone else be the guinea pig and see what happens. I would wait a few years and see what the studies say after that time. There is one other thing to consider. In Australia it is common practice to present an "advertising editorial" which is coined "Advertorial" as if it were news. It is vaguely within the law to do it at this moment. So, what you read on news related web sites may not be for the good of the reader but the good of the person promoting something. > It is St Vincents in Sydney the urologist is Philip Stricker. > > See: > > http://www.abc.net.au/news/health/sophie_scott/newsitems/s1327806.htm Thank you Magna for the correction and the url, I'm sure a lot of people have been waiting for this news. Gordon > >> Hi Gordon, > >> [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > John Thank you, so far so good. Gordon |
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