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TK - 21 Mar 2005 03:44 GMT
Has any person in this group had any experience with a product made by High
Island Health by the name of Pro-State Prostate massager? Would sure
appreciate any info you can provide before I decide to buy one. Thanks.
Bill - 21 Mar 2005 04:34 GMT
Hi TK

I have one.  Every time I have used it I have had some bleeding from where
it was inserted.  I have followed their instructions to the letter and still
have the problem.  This happens after just 2 or 3 strokes of massage.  I do
not know would happen if I did more.

Hope this helps in your decision.

Bill E

> Has any person in this group had any experience with a product made by High
> Island Health by the name of Pro-State Prostate massager? Would sure
> appreciate any info you can provide before I decide to buy one. Thanks.
Lambo - 21 Mar 2005 12:08 GMT
> Has any person in this group had any experience with a product made by High
> Island Health by the name of Pro-State Prostate massager? Would sure
> appreciate any info you can provide before I decide to buy one. Thanks.

Hi - yes I have something similar (in the UK). Seems to work for me if
used sparingly -  about once a month. Needs good lubrication, and a bit
of practice at first, but flow improves for a while afterwards. Not a
magic cure and expensive, but could be worth a try. Sold as a sex-toy as
well, but it doesn't push my buttons!
Pete
Zork - 21 Mar 2005 15:47 GMT
>Has any person in this group had any experience with a product made by High
>Island Health by the name of Pro-State Prostate massager? Would sure
>appreciate any info you can provide before I decide to buy one. Thanks.

Have tried the device and it didn't seem to make any difference one
way or the other. No irritation or bleeding that others have alluded
to. No way,IMHO, is this any kind of 'toy'
Spread deMocracy - 22 Mar 2005 04:04 GMT
You've got to be joking?

If you are not joking, then are you treating prostatitis or merely BPH?

If BPH, why not save yourself the grief and the awkwardness by getting a PVP
or TURP or TUMT?   It's no big deal.   Anything, from meds to "massage" is
merely to postpone the inevitable...in my humble opinion.

If prostatitis, then you must not be taking the right meds.

In this day and age of frightening effects from infection, one would think
that would be one's first concern when thinking of a "prostate massager"?
There simply is no free ride.  Good luck.

> Has any person in this group had any experience with a product made by
> High Island Health by the name of Pro-State Prostate massager? Would sure
> appreciate any info you can provide before I decide to buy one. Thanks.
Gut-Buster - 23 Mar 2005 13:07 GMT
> You've got to be joking?
>
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>
> If prostatitis, then you must not be taking the right meds.

Problem is there are no "right meds" for prostatitis. No medication can
eradicate the problem because the prostate is a very good filter in itself.
Derek F - 22 Mar 2005 11:37 GMT
> Has any person in this group had any experience with a product made by
> High Island Health by the name of Pro-State Prostate massager? Would sure
> appreciate any info you can provide before I decide to buy one. Thanks.

This subject has been discussed a lot here over the years.
A Google Groups search brings up plenty about it, including this amusing
one:
Derek.
it was written by a madam at a French Brothel

The technique of prostate massage actually involves two (three) organs of
the male reproductive system: the prostate gland, the seminal vessicles,
and the ampulla, which is the reservoir which actually holds the male
sperm just prior to ejaculation. The prostate gland when engorged can be
felt by pressing a finger into the middle of the perineum (in back of the
scrotum). It is a rounded lump about the size of a large marble. It can
also be accessed via the rectum, where it can again be felt as a rounded
lump toward the front of the body and just about an index finger's length
inside the rectum. A better way to find it from the rectum is to insert
the middle finger, and slide it from just inside the rectum (on the front
side) up and in until you feel it move over a lump. That will be the
prostate. Just in back of (up from) the prostate is a smaller and roughly
triangular wedge shaped nodule that is the bottom portion of the somewhat
larger seminal vessicles, which is where most of the fluid of the
ejaculate is produced and accumulated. Underneath the seminal vessicles
are the ampulla.

During sexual arousal, sperm and ejaculatory fluid accumulate in these
glands backing up behind valves in the ejaculatory ducts. When fluid
pressure reaches a high enough threshold, the valves open and the urethral
bulb fills, triggering the ejaculatory reflex and muscular contractions
of orgasm, which empties the glands.

The seminal vessicles, ampulla and prostate can also be emptied by massage
of these glands through the rectum. Rhythmically massaging the organs in
an in-and-out motion with an anal dildo is one way, but perhaps a more
reliable way is to simply use either the middle finger or the middle
finger and index finger together (well lubricated), to apply a firm slow
massage over the nodules of the glands inside the rectum. The massage
will force the seminal fluid and sperm past the valves in the ejaculatory
ducts, and empty the prostate (which discharges directly into the
urethra). If arousal is low or penile stimulation is stopped for a brief
time before the prostate massage begins, draining of the ejaculate into
the urethra will not trigger orgasm. Once ejaculate appears at the
meatus, it will help to empty the urethra by running a finger firmly up
the underside of the penis from the root to the head, pushing the
ejaculate in front of it.

A variant of the prostate massage that is quite effective in limiting any
tendency to orgasm and the pleasurable sensations of fluid passing through
the ejaculatory ducts and urethra, is the "ice massage": at least 10
minutes prior to the prostate massage, plastic bags full of crushed ice
are packed around the male's cock and balls. The bags remain in place
during the prostate milking. When the massage is completed, the bags are
removed. This technique also makes a very appropriate opportunity to
install a chastity device on the male's shriveled penis. (This technique
works best if the male if fastened down - it's very hard to get a man to
stay still when his genitals are being frozen.) Naturally, hubby will not
be at all pleased to be denied the small amount of pleasure of the surrogate
orgasm as the milked fluid is forced through his numbed ejaculatory ducts.

A condom may be used to collect the ejaculate, so that the mistress can
gage when an amount of fluid normal for an orgasm has been collected. At
this point the prostate massage can be ended.

While the prostate massage is very pleasurable, most men are unable to
orgasm by prostate massage without some kind of penile stimulation. Once
a sufficient amount of ejaculatory fluid has been drained, insufficient
fluid pressure to trigger the ejaculatory reflex will remain, and no
amount of penile stimulation will result in orgasm until the fluid glands
are recharged. This may take several hours to several days.

This technique may be used to frustrate male masturbation and orgasm if
applied at appropriately timed intervals. That may need to be once every
day
or two unless the male is secured in a chastity belt. Belted males will
still need to have their glands drained every few weeks to maybe 3 months
in order to avoid nocturnal ejaculations with orgasm. With regular
prostate milkings, a male may be deprived of orgasmic release for an
arbitrarily long time with no deleterious effects.

How long to go between milkings will have to be gauged by experiment. You
want to go as long as possible without triggering an orgasmic wet dream,
since the pressure of fluid buildup increases the urgency of orgasm
denial. That's the whole point, right? The longest I've gone without an
orgasm in my adult life is maybe a month or so. While I didn't have a wet
dream, I had rock hard and throbbing erections within my chastity device
after about 10 days or so. I'd guess that 6 weeks between milkings might
be a good start. Then add a couple of weeks to that each time between
milkings, until a wet dream is triggered (but don't go longer than 3
months between milkings). You should add a clause to your contract that
hubby must confess any wet dream or other spontaneous orgasm. I'd suggest
that you restart the one year chastity period from that day if one
occurs. He's already had his orgasm, and will have to wait the full
period till the next one.

A particularly effective way of increasing an orgasm deprived male's sense
of sexual frustration between prostate milkings is to masturbate him once
a day every day to just short of orgasm, then install a chastity device.
I'd say this at least triples the urgency of orgasm denial. If you do this,
you will need to milk him more often, maybe every 2-4 weeks. After
milking, the cycle can be started over. One woman I know sometimes
masturbates her hubby to just short of orgasm multiple times a day between
milkings!
 
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