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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate BPH / September 2003urologist spin
Saw my urologist today-yearly checkup- He said: My prostate was large but healthy(no cancer) He said he saw PVP but did not like it much- He said-after you have it-you have no ejaculation He said it would be tough to do it in an office as an out patient he said the put a little scope up the penis and do the laser from that scope- And recommended turp or microwave. Any comments : Thanks Michael Find another uro. Nick Does he offer a money back guarantee that you have ejaculation after a Turp or Tuna? I'll bet not! The odds of having normal retro are better with a PVP and it's not the end of the world if you do get retro. Life, sex and love go on. Find a uro who has done many PVP procedures. Travel to his location and have it done. Most urologists will give you the same advice as yours just did. It is a quick and easy way for them to make money. Why should they change the way they have been doing it for years, just because it's better for you?!?!? I'm not being cynical. That is just the way it is. Dave > Saw my urologist today-yearly checkup- > He said: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Thanks > Michael Doctors tend to avoid new procedures when they have no experience or expertise. It boggles my mind how resistant most of them are to change. > Doctors tend to avoid new procedures when they have no experience or > expertise. It boggles my mind how resistant most of them are to > change. Queen Victoria had problems not only from doctors but also the church, etc. when she proposed trying anaesthesia during childbirth. Some seemed to think it was immoral to give birth without pain! Luddites are nothing new. But I still think we could apply a lot of pressure by naming reluctant medics on this group. It might at least cause some to stop and think -- and hopefully research. Why should they be entitled to anonimity? Derry > Saw my urologist today-yearly checkup- > He said: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > NO WAY Turp or microwave ..........your URO is simply not prepared to keep up with the times and refuses to update his skills TURP is destructive and has loads of side effects as does microwave which has a poor response record Go with PVP you wont regret it > Saw my urologist today-yearly checkup- > He said: > My prostate was large but healthy(no cancer) > He said he saw PVP but did not like it much- > He said-after you have it-you have no ejaculation No way, he may have said you will have retro ejaculation. If so that may only be temporary, 3 or 4 months. > He said it would be tough to do it in an office as an out patient For any of these procedures you had better have an anesthetist present. However many folks have had a PVP in an ambulatory surgical center and went home without a catheter! Try that with a TURP or a microwave, TUMT and you will have blood all over the place. > he said the put a little scope up the penis and do the laser from that > scope- He's right on that score, but a TURP or a TUMT is done the same way except they don't use a laser. > And recommended turp or microwave. > Any comments : If you are considering one of these procedures look into a PVP starting at www.laserscope.com and save yourself a lot of grief. Jack >Saw my urologist today-yearly checkup- >He said: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Thanks >Michael Hmmm, sounds like a Uro over the age of 40, still talking to the, "gold standard for bph treatment." However, these guys have become less vocal over the last year as favorable reports following good PVP have rolled in. We're dealing with a great technology that hasn't fully rolled out yet. Perhaps your Uro doesn't yet have access to an outpatient facility or hospital with the equipment (but is privately considering gaining that access.) Reasons for talking down PVP are numerous and most have nothing to do with effectiveness of the procedure. The capital investment or lease payments are significant and per-unit costs for disposables are higher with PVP than with older therapys. Many HMOs reimburse only TURP, TUMT or TUNA. Oh yes, there's that little matter about having to go to school--and start out with zero treatments under your belt ! Regards, "Mike" -- mikeellison3xxxatzzzyahoo.com -- |
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