Promethazine potentiates opiates by it's anticholinergic and antihistaminic
action.... nothing special

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> i have, for quite a while now, been trying to elucidate the actual mechanism
> by which promethazine potentiates the effects of codeine.
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> thru the blood-brain-barrier - or if not, how does it get through, the gluc
> group being quite polar....
some potentiaters work by blocking or slowing metabolism, i.e more of the
drug when oraly administrated gets into your blood. No matter the
administration method, it also stays there longer.
IMO its better just to take more of the opiate, thats the only guaranteed
way to get higher, you certainly dont want to pollute any opiate high with
shitty groggy antihistamines.
scoobie - 03 Jun 2004 12:12 GMT
>>i have, for quite a while now, been trying to elucidate the actual
>
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> way to get higher, you certainly dont want to pollute any opiate high with
> shitty groggy antihistamines.
This question IS NOT related to codeine
but is sorta On topic:
With these potentiators, do they work for
IV administration of the opiate as well??
(REMEMBER, this DOES NOT refer to codeine, cause we all know
that you DO NOT do it)
So does anyone know?
thanx
--scoobs--
acid reign - 04 Jun 2004 09:47 GMT
codiene is a prodrug for morphine. about 10% of the codeine that gets
absorbed from your GI tract gets metabolised to morphine. which means that
more metabolism by CYP2D6 is advantageous. the enzyme that performs this in
the liver can get saturated. you might have heard of the 'ceiling dose' of
codeine being 400-500mg. so if the codeine had 100% oral bioavailability
(which it doesnt,) the most morphine you can get into your bloodstream is
40-50mg, which is not enough to get high. which is why potentiation is
useful. if i had access at the moment to better opiates, i'd be taking
them - but i dont.
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> > some potentiaters work by blocking or slowing metabolism, i.e more of the
> > drug when oraly administrated gets into your blood. No matter the
> > administration method, it also stays there longer.
> > IMO its better just to take more of the opiate, thats the only guaranteed
> > way to get higher, you certainly dont want to pollute any opiate high with
> > shitty groggy antihistamines.
meh.
> This question IS NOT related to codeine
> but is sorta On topic:
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> thanx
> --scoobs--
dont bother.
Emma Chase VanCott - 04 Jun 2004 18:08 GMT
In sci.med.pharmacy acid reign <tek_ages@takethisouthotmail.com> wrote:
: codiene is a prodrug for morphine. about 10% of the codeine that gets
Codeine is AKA "methyl morphine".