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Shirley Gutkowski RDH - 27 May 2004 18:19 GMT
Since I've been invited to speak in Australia I've been very nervous about the
very long flight.  I spoke to the organizer this weekend and she suggested
sleeping pills.  The questions I have about sleeping pills are these:

1.  Rx or OTC
2.  Can someone swipe something from my bag while I'm sleeping and I not know
it?
3.  Do they have any weird effects such as make me retain even more water?
4.  Can they be taken with diuretics?
5.  What diuretic should I use, Rx or OTC?
6.  Is it helpful to take an asprin to ward off thrombosis?

I guess I had more drug questions than I thought.
I appreciate any insight.
Shirley Gutkowski, RDH, BSDH
"Everbody wants to save the earth - nobody wants to help Mom to do the dishes."
    - P. J. O'Rourke
~~~~~~~~~
http://www.dentistry.com/poralhealth_02.asp
BilZ0r - 28 May 2004 01:56 GMT
> Since I've been invited to speak in Australia I've been very nervous
> about the very long flight.  I spoke to the organizer this weekend and
> she suggested sleeping pills.  The questions I have about sleeping
> pills are these:
>
> 1.  Rx or OTC

I don't think any doctor would prescribe... though its possible.

> 2.  Can someone swipe something from my bag while I'm sleeping and I
> not know it?

Yes, but they can do that when your awake, so I wouldn't worry.

> 3.  Do they have any weird effects such as make me retain even more
> water?

You have a problem retaining water on a aeroplane? Thats a new one to me.
Anyway, it depends on the drug.

> 4.  Can they be taken with diuretics?

Most of them, but it could depend on the sleeping aid and the diutetic

> 5.  What diuretic should I use, Rx or OTC?

*Shrug*

> 6.  Is it helpful to take an asprin to ward off thrombosis?

No one knows.
Shirley Gutkowski RDH - 28 May 2004 12:09 GMT
>> 3.  Do they have any weird effects such as make me retain even more
>> water?
>
>You have a problem retaining water on a aeroplane? Thats a new one to me.
>Anyway, it depends on the drug.

My feet and ankles swell, I plan on wearing flight socks however 24 hours is a
long time to be in the air.

Thanks for your input.

Shirley Gutkowski, RDH, BSDH
"Everbody wants to save the earth - nobody wants to help Mom to do the dishes."
    - P. J. O'Rourke
~~~~~~~~~
http://www.dentistry.com/poralhealth_02.asp
BilZ0r - 29 May 2004 04:28 GMT
>>> 3.  Do they have any weird effects such as make me retain even more
>>> water?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> My feet and ankles swell, I plan on wearing flight socks however 24
> hours is a long time to be in the air.

That's not water retention, thats due to blood build up. Trying walking
around. Infact, I think most diuretics would make that worse. People have
enough trouble with dehyrdation on planes as it is.
Shirley Gutkowski RDH - 29 May 2004 23:35 GMT
>That's not water retention, thats due to blood build up. Trying walking
>around. Infact, I think most diuretics would make that worse. People have
>enough trouble with dehyrdation on planes as it is.

Excellent point.  If it's venus flow, why is it just on planes, and why does it
take days to get better.  Should I stand on my head, would you pay to see it???
;-)
Shirley Gutkowski, RDH, BSDH
"Everbody wants to save the earth - nobody wants to help Mom to do the dishes."
    - P. J. O'Rourke
~~~~~~~~~
http://www.dentistry.com/poralhealth_02.asp
BilZ0r - 30 May 2004 08:51 GMT
>>That's not water retention, thats due to blood build up. Trying
>>walking around. Infact, I think most diuretics would make that worse.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> why does it take days to get better.  Should I stand on my head, would
> you pay to see it??? ;-)

I assume its to do with lowered air pressure.
el gran cantinflas - 31 May 2004 08:40 GMT
Planes actually have air dryers (or dehumidifiers, if you will) to keep
the aluminum used to construct the wings and fuselage from corroding.

ref

>>>That's not water retention, thats due to blood build up. Trying
>>>walking around. Infact, I think most diuretics would make that worse.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> I assume its to do with lowered air pressure.
BilZ0r - 31 May 2004 23:23 GMT
el gran cantinflas <123@456.com> wrote in news:40bae1da$1_7
@corp.newsgroups.com:

> Planes actually have air dryers (or dehumidifiers, if you will) to keep
> the aluminum used to construct the wings and fuselage from corroding.
>
> ref

Well that may be, but we were talking about why there is venous pooling
in the feet on a plane, as opposed to all other times.


>>>>That's not water retention, thats due to blood build up. Trying
>>>>walking around. Infact, I think most diuretics would make that worse.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
>> I assume its to do with lowered air pressure.
Jonathan Smith - 28 May 2004 20:03 GMT
> > Since I've been invited to speak in Australia I've been very nervous
> > about the very long flight.  I spoke to the organizer this weekend and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I don't think any doctor would prescribe... though its possible.

Doxylamine OTC or Ambien Rx.  Most dosc, if you have a doctor-patient
relationship and no significant contraindications will prescribe in
this case.  I's make sure you get five or six - US-Australia is a pain
in terms of jet lag.

> > 2.  Can someone swipe something from my bag while I'm sleeping and I
> > not know it?

> Yes, but they can do that when your awake, so I wouldn't worry.

Put the bag under the seat in front of you and put your feet on top of
the bag.

> > 3.  Do they have any weird effects such as make me retain even more
> > water?
>
> You have a problem retaining water on a aeroplane? Thats a new one to me.
> Anyway, it depends on the drug.

Swollen feet and ankles are due to insufficient venus return, not
water retention.  Get up every now and then.

> > 4.  Can they be taken with diuretics?
>
> Most of them, but it could depend on the sleeping aid and the diutetic

Taking diuretics on a long plane flight if you dopn't normally take
diuretics is not a good idea.

> > 5.  What diuretic should I use, Rx or OTC?
>
> *Shrug*

Neither.

> > 6.  Is it helpful to take an asprin to ward off thrombosis?
>
> No one knows.

Unless you hae aspirin sensitivities or are taking medications that
would be contraindicated, taking an aspirin is not going to hurt and,
though the data are sketchy, may help.

js
acid reign - 01 Jun 2004 10:54 GMT
> > Since I've been invited to speak in Australia I've been very nervous
> > about the very long flight.  I spoke to the organizer this weekend and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I don't think any doctor would prescribe... though its possible.

ive been prescribed lorazepam for flights.

> > 2.  Can someone swipe something from my bag while I'm sleeping and I
> > not know it?
>
> Yes, but they can do that when your awake, so I wouldn't worry.

> > 3.  Do they have any weird effects such as make me retain even more
> > water?

got congestive heart failure? they could make you retain water if you dont
wake up to urinate

> You have a problem retaining water on a aeroplane? Thats a new one to me.
> Anyway, it depends on the drug.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> > 5.  What diuretic should I use, Rx or OTC?

in that you ought to ask your doctor, probably rx.

> *Shrug*
>
> > 6.  Is it helpful to take an asprin to ward off thrombosis?
>
> No one knows.
 
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