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SIX boxes of Sudafed?

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P T - 09 Mar 2004 01:03 GMT
An article on the Drug Topics website states that many chains are
limiting Sudafed sales. For example, Rite Aid and Eckerd have a six box
limit. The Sudafed web site says you can get 96 x 30mg in a box.

SIX BOXES! That's ridiculous. Why bother to limit it? I can't imagine
anyone buying more than two or three boxes unless they are cooking meth.

Speedy Pete

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Wally - 09 Mar 2004 04:13 GMT
>SIX BOXES! That's ridiculous. Why bother to limit it? I can't imagine
>anyone buying more than two or three boxes unless they are cooking meth

That's exactly why they are limiting sales. We also have a poster at front
registers showing other items besides pseudoephedrine (i.e. Drano, brake fluid,
lithium batteries) to watch for.

Also, we've had to restrict sales of Coricidin Cough & Cold to people over 21.
Local teenagers have been coming in on Saturday nights asking for it for their
parents. I offer to call the parents, I get "oh they are asleep." When I
mention we are working with local authorities, they scram.

Basically, those rotten apples are spoiling the barrel. Good meds in wrong
hands.
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Darryl - 09 Mar 2004 12:11 GMT
>>SIX BOXES! That's ridiculous. Why bother to limit it? I can't imagine
>>anyone buying more than two or three boxes unless they are cooking meth
>
>That's exactly why they are limiting sales. We also have a poster at front
>registers showing other items besides pseudoephedrine (i.e. Drano, brake fluid,
>lithium batteries) to watch for.

I can understand the limit on sudafed but I'm not too sure how brake
fluid fits into all of this :).  Besides, the hardware stores would be
a better place for your clandestine reagent needs.  Is this poster
simply printed on 8.5x11" paper or is it something more official?

Darryl.

>Also, we've had to restrict sales of Coricidin Cough & Cold to people over 21.
>Local teenagers have been coming in on Saturday nights asking for it for their
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Wally - 09 Mar 2004 21:42 GMT
>I can understand the limit on sudafed but I'm not too sure how brake
>fluid fits into all of this :).  Besides, the hardware stores would be
>a better place for your clandestine reagent needs.  Is this poster
>simply printed on 8.5x11" paper or is it something more official?

It's from the Indiana State Police, but I'm sure there are similar posters in
varying states. It shows products most associated in the production of crystal
meth. I work for a large mass merchandiser/grocery store chain and all cashiers
have an 8.5x11 poster at their registers, along with the company procedure on
notifying local autorities, etc.
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James Pinkerton - 09 Mar 2004 23:14 GMT
I noticed a similar sign in a Dollar General store in my home in
Mississippi.  Previously they would let you buy all you wanted, but call the
police if you purchased a large quanity, i.e., six or more.  This has
resulted in people being charged with methamphetamine production.  Wouldn't
it make more sense to just let the drug dealers buy the Sudafed and then
bust them for their stupidity?

Now they must purchase Sudafed at several stores and if they are careful
they should be able to get away with it.
Absolut_B - 09 Mar 2004 23:14 GMT
wallylsp@aol.comnospamor (Wally) wrote
> That's exactly why they are limiting sales. We also have a poster at front
> registers showing other items besides pseudoephedrine (i.e. Drano, brake >fluid,
> lithium batteries) to watch for.

Brake fluid?  That is strange.  I can understand sudafed, lithium
batteries, and the various products containing methanol and other
solvents.  However brake fluid is new to me.  I have also heard of
anti-freeze testers, which I have no idea about except perhaps to test
pH.  Are things such as pool pH testers or pyrex glassware(makeshift
labware) watched?

Around here the producers get some teenagers to either buy or steal
their items for them.  One trick is to go into a department store and
buy 2 boxes of sudafed at the electronics checkout, two at the
sporting goods, 2 at the pharmacy, etc.  If they make another legit
purchase it goes undetected and they walk out the door with 8 boxes.
I'm Libertarian, but the meth producers around here kill people
because they don't clean their product, and leave a toxic mix that
would never pass anywhere else.  I don't worry about potheads,
junkies, or psychedelic users but I worry at night about someone
breaking in because of their meth habit.  Here in the plains the
business is booming.

> Also, we've had to restrict sales of Coricidin Cough & Cold to people over 21.
> Local teenagers have been coming in on Saturday nights asking for it for their
> parents. I offer to call the parents, I get "oh they are asleep." When I
> mention we are working with local authorities, they scram.

It is good to hear that someone at the retail level is taking this
position.  Coricidin is so much worse than other products containing
dxm.  The new robotussin gel caps contain pure dxm and hince are
safer, but the price means coricidin will still be the most popular.
Several businesses around here got smart and put coricidin behind the
counter, yet when the new robotussin product came out it went right on
the shelves.  I wonder how many cases will be stolen before they wise
up and put both behind the counter.

> Basically, those rotten apples are spoiling the barrel. Good meds in wrong
> hands.

I just read a new study that puts dextromethorphan ahead of rx
products, and with ephedra outlawed sudafed is alone for its action
and purpose.  It also makes it a pain for consumers who don't want to
go to the doctor for a common cold.
Manuel - 09 Mar 2004 23:27 GMT
Brake fluids usually contain glycols and other poly-alcohols, could it
explain it? However, brake fluids residues would make it very toxic...

> > That's exactly why they are limiting sales. We also have a poster at front
> > registers showing other items besides pseudoephedrine (i.e. Drano, brake
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> and purpose.  It also makes it a pain for consumers who don't want to
> go to the doctor for a common cold.
 
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