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question about low-molecular-weight heparins

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skippercats - 04 Mar 2004 03:36 GMT
I'm feeling more and more like a tired dumb pharmacist.
I was asked today "why lovenox?"  "are low molecular weight heparins better than regular weight heparins?" "I'm pregnant and they put me on this, do you know why?".

Sigh.
I was so tired I couldn't think straight and told her I would call her tomorrow.

ummm.  What should I tell her?
El Gran Cantinflas - 04 Mar 2004 03:59 GMT
a helpful site here, found by typing on google: heparins molecular weight

http://www.4um.com/tutorial/currents/lmwh.htm

good luck

ref

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> ummm.  What should I tell her?
BilZ0r - 04 Mar 2004 04:22 GMT
Trust a pharmacist... lol... jks

Don't ask me why, but I'm under the impression that-

LMW Heparin probably causes less osteoporosis and thrombocytopenia than UF
Heparin

Also, LMWH isn't needed to be monitored as carfully as far as plasma concs
go.

and of course, they can't have warfarin because it crosses the placenta.

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Robie - 09 Mar 2004 00:45 GMT
I'm feeling more and more like a tired dumb pharmacist.
I was asked today "why lovenox?"  "are low molecular weight heparins better
than regular weight heparins?" "I'm pregnant and they put me on this, do you
know why?".

for one LMWH are used in the outpatient setting because
they have longer  T1/2 and don't require continuous IV infusion
and hospital admission, does she want to stay in the hospital?

Sigh.
I was so tired I couldn't think straight and told her I would call her
tomorrow.

ummm.  What should I tell her?
skippercats - 09 Mar 2004 03:59 GMT
gotcha.  Thanks.

 "skippercats" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
 news:4046a43c_3@127.0.0.1...
 I'm feeling more and more like a tired dumb pharmacist.
 I was asked today "why lovenox?"  "are low molecular weight heparins better
 than regular weight heparins?" "I'm pregnant and they put me on this, do you
 know why?".

 >>

 for one LMWH are used in the outpatient setting because
 they have longer  T1/2 and don't require continuous IV infusion
 and hospital admission, does she want to stay in the hospital?

 Sigh.
 I was so tired I couldn't think straight and told her I would call her
 tomorrow.

 ummm.  What should I tell her?
k f - 13 Mar 2004 07:52 GMT
The low molecular weight heparins have several distinct adavatages. 1st,
they do not require regular monitoring of INR, PTT, or aPTT if dosed per kg.
Second, they can be administered OD deep s.c., or BID, depending on the
indication. There is some evidence that the LMWH may be somewhat better in
prevention or treatment of DVT, PE, and in the treatment of ACS. The fact
that they do not need regular monitoring of aPTT or INR makes it easier to
use in an outpatient setting. I don't think any of the heparins would be
transferred in mothers-milk, as they are still significantly large
structures, so that seems appropriate.

LMWH - the low weight dose not refer to the weight of the vial or anything,
just that they have taken heparin and seperated it into fractions, keeping
the most active fractions and discarding the rest. This may in the end help
to decrease the incidence of bleeding and other side effects. Outpatient
administration of heparin requires regular monitoring of aPTT values and
constant dosage adjustments. while the LMWH can be dosed without these
tests.
I'm feeling more and more like a tired dumb pharmacist.
I was asked today "why lovenox?"  "are low molecular weight heparins better
than regular weight heparins?" "I'm pregnant and they put me on this, do you
know why?".

Sigh.
I was so tired I couldn't think straight and told her I would call her
tomorrow.

ummm.  What should I tell her?
skippercats - 14 Mar 2004 02:55 GMT
thanks
 The low molecular weight heparins have several distinct adavatages. 1st,
 they do not require regular monitoring of INR, PTT, or aPTT if dosed per kg.
 Second, they can be administered OD deep s.c., or BID, depending on the
 indication. There is some evidence that the LMWH may be somewhat better in
 prevention or treatment of DVT, PE, and in the treatment of ACS. The fact
 that they do not need regular monitoring of aPTT or INR makes it easier to
 use in an outpatient setting. I don't think any of the heparins would be
 transferred in mothers-milk, as they are still significantly large
 structures, so that seems appropriate.

 LMWH - the low weight dose not refer to the weight of the vial or anything,
 just that they have taken heparin and seperated it into fractions, keeping
 the most active fractions and discarding the rest. This may in the end help
 to decrease the incidence of bleeding and other side effects. Outpatient
 administration of heparin requires regular monitoring of aPTT values and
 constant dosage adjustments. while the LMWH can be dosed without these
 tests.
 "skippercats" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
 news:4046a43c_3@127.0.0.1...
 I'm feeling more and more like a tired dumb pharmacist.
 I was asked today "why lovenox?"  "are low molecular weight heparins better
 than regular weight heparins?" "I'm pregnant and they put me on this, do you
 know why?".

 Sigh.
 I was so tired I couldn't think straight and told her I would call her
 tomorrow.

 ummm.  What should I tell her?
 
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