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Is Pharmacy a tough degree to get?

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John - 28 Feb 2004 02:41 GMT
I want to pursue a career in Pharmacy maybe. But I'm scared about the
5-6 years. When you went to get your Pharmacy degree, did a lot of
your peers fail? Did you struggle through it? Do you still remember
most of what you learn?

Also, what do you learn in college? Thousands of names of drugs?
Sounds awful hard.
P T - 28 Feb 2004 16:56 GMT
lil46john@yahoo.com (John) asked:

>...I'm scared about the 5-6 years.

Nothing to be scared of. (Listen to the song, Fifteen Years, by Five for
Fighting.)

>When you went to get your Pharmacy
>degree, did a lot of your peers fail?

About 5% of the people who get into Pharmacy school drop out.

>Did you struggle through it?

Some struggle, some slide. Probably >90% find it challenging.

>Do you still remember most of what you
>learn?

Yup.
;-)

>Also, what do you learn in college?

:-)

>Thousands of names of drugs? Sounds
>awful hard.  

Names of drugs? No. To distill pharmacy school to a single concept: in
pharmacy school you learn, in excruciating detail, how the drugs work.
Bob G. - 29 Feb 2004 00:37 GMT
>I want to pursue a career in Pharmacy maybe. But I'm scared about the
>5-6 years. When you went to get your Pharmacy degree, did a lot of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Also, what do you learn in college? Thousands of names of drugs?
>Sounds awful hard.

Never be afraid of a little work... just no reason to be...

Honestly not that many of the ones that got accepted to Pharmacy
School  dropped out or failed... more dropped out for a year for
financial reasons then flunked out...

Did I struggle....?    You BET I did  .... Got out of school with a
2.000000000 average and I had to work hard just to get that
grade point average...

I forgot 80 percent of what I was taught in Pharmacy School within a
week after each exam...  However the 20 percent I retained was more
then enough to assure I had a successful career...

I learned (or must have  learned) how to THINK ....

Good Luck...

Bob Griffiths
John - 01 Mar 2004 22:07 GMT
How hard is it to keep a 3.0 average?
Also, with new technology, how will the pharmacy curriculum possibly
differ in the future?
How did guy with 2.o average get a degree?
Bob G. - 02 Mar 2004 20:25 GMT
?
>Also, with new technology, how will the pharmacy curriculum possibly
>differ in the future?

The curriculum will  differ ... NOTHING ever remains the same...

>How did guy with 2.o average get a degree?

Pretty damn easy.... That is what I graduated with  (1967) and when
the results of the State Boards were released I was in the top 10
percent...  go figure?  

However a persons performance in the work place will determine how
well he succeeds in life...

Bob G.
John - 03 Mar 2004 22:49 GMT
Can someone tell me what a Pharmacist does?
Like when you get a prescription, what do you do?
Also, is filling prescriptions and consulting costumers the only thing you do?
rastapasta - 04 Mar 2004 22:31 GMT
> Can someone tell me what a Pharmacist does?
> Like when you get a prescription, what do you do?
> Also, is filling prescriptions and consulting costumers the only thing you do?

Think about it---SOMEONE has to be LISCENSED to distribute drugs, & know
what they're doing.
OTOH though, some pharmacists f**k s**t up sometime & distribute the wrong
Rx, on occasion, & sometimes results in severe injury or death.
Mark - 17 Mar 2004 22:07 GMT
> Can someone tell me what a Pharmacist does?
> Like when you get a prescription, what do you do?
> Also, is filling prescriptions and consulting costumers the only thing you do?

There are lots of career paths for Pharmacists. I work in Research
now. I used to work in a Hospital and specialized in Nutrition
Support. I have worked with Oncology and at one time Critical Care. I
think its a great career. I have alot of fun looking at many aspects
of drug delivery. Currently I am studying the changes which occur when
drugs are administered through feeding tubes. Some drugs adhere to the
tubes. I found retail pretty boring, but the patient interaction is a
nice benefit. Most patients want to hear all you can tell them about
their drugs.

Mark Klang
Absolut_B - 06 Mar 2004 02:22 GMT
Bob G. <rg327_remove_@adelphia.net> wrote in message >
> I learned (or must have  learned) how to THINK ....
>
> Good Luck...
>
> Bob Griffiths

I have a related question.  I am young enough to still change my path
in life, and my interest in how the mind works, along with chemistry,
has peaked my interest in being a pharmacist.  You list "how to THINK"
as the main issue, and I hope that is an issue with every degree.

That said, do you find that your knowledge and talents are wasted?  I
don't know exactly what my friendly neighborhood Walgreen's pharmacist
does, but it seems they do tedious jobs.  Of course, there have been
several times when my pharmacist has intercepted a mislabeled Rx, and
talked to the doctor to correct it.  While this is great, and can make
a big difference, how fulfilling can it be?  I'd love to know what
makes you want to get up and go to work in the morning.  With more
schooling than %95 percent of the population, you still hear phrases
like "I hope to be a doctor/lawyer" but never a pharmacist.

In history, the image of a mortar and pestle, along with some various
powders, was the idea of a pharmacist.  Now I see an educated man
measuring out 30 viagra for a patient.  Any comments on your career,
education, or public image?  I've been curious about this for years,
and have yet to find a good answer.
rastapasta - 06 Mar 2004 05:24 GMT
> Bob G. <rg327_remove_@adelphia.net> wrote in message >
> > I learned (or must have  learned) how to THINK ....
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> education, or public image?  I've been curious about this for years,
> and have yet to find a good answer.

Yeah, but like me---I'm taking pharmacology right now, mainly because it's
the continuation of a Medical Terminology class I had last semester. I am so
fascinated by drugs & pharmacology/pharmicokinetics/chemistry that I want to
pursue all there is to know about drugs, their chemistry, & uses to the best
of my ability, & f.ck, if I get a degree out of it all, then that's great.
But for now, I want to learn all there is to know regarding pharmacology &
the uses of drugs, & as well, I would like to study Latin & chemistry when I
get the chance, which I plan to do. I think people that go into pharmacology
either love drugs or didn't quite make it all the way to, or through, med.
school, or simply know what it takes to be a pharmacist & get the degree &
finally obtain a position at a local pharmacy/hospital & don't go any
furhter & are happy where they are.
rastapasta - 06 Mar 2004 05:50 GMT
[snip]

> Yeah, but like me---I'm taking pharmacology right now, mainly because it's
> the continuation of a Medical Terminology class I had last semester. I am so
> fascinated by drugs & pharmacology/pharmicokinetics/chemistry that I want to
[snip]

I know-I misspelled "pharmacokinetics"
John - 06 Mar 2004 17:29 GMT
> [snip]
> >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I know-I misspelled "pharmacokinetics"
I don't think a pharmacist has ever consulted with me about my drugs,
but when they do, do they have to know the drug of the top of their
head or is their a handy drug book that lists effects of drugs,etc
rastapasta - 06 Mar 2004 21:01 GMT
> > [snip]
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> but when they do, do they have to know the drug of the top of their
> head or is their a handy drug book that lists effects of drugs,etc

Yeah, that's a good question. I wouldn't say that they HAVE to know the drug
in question, but it would be very helpful for obvious reasons. I would think
that it depends on how much experience you have with pharmacology & being a
practicing pharmacist. I think if the pharmacist was asked about a certain
drug or drugs by a customer, he/she would explain it's effects to the best
of their ability, but really I think the doctor should explain what the drug
is that they're prescribing in the first place. If you have questions about
a drug or drugs, ask your doctor.
James Pinkerton - 06 Mar 2004 13:20 GMT
>I'd love to know what makes you want to get up and go to work in the
morning.

I am retired now but when I worked it was for old fashion family values.  I
had a wife and three kids.  I needed the money!
.

> Bob G. <rg327_remove_@adelphia.net> wrote in message >
> > I learned (or must have  learned) how to THINK ....
<snip>
> That said, do you find that your knowledge and talents are wasted?  I
> don't know exactly what my friendly neighborhood Walgreen's pharmacist
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> schooling than %95 percent of the population, you still hear phrases
> like "I hope to be a doctor/lawyer" but never a pharmacist.

<snip
Absolut_B - 06 Mar 2004 21:01 GMT
> >I'd love to know what makes you want to get up and go to work in the
> >morning.
>
> I am retired now but when I worked it was for old fashion family values.  I
> had a wife and three kids.  I needed the money!
<snip>

LOL, a perfectly reasonable answer.  I know there is a shortage of
qualified people around my home.  The money factor certainly makes it
a more attractive option for an occupation.  I think I would be too
ego-centric to make a good pharmacist.  I would laugh at someone
filling an antibiotics Rx for a mild case of the common cold, or I
would second-guess a mild darvocetN100 Rx for someone I know was in
tons of pain.  I doubt my career would last, as I would always want to
have more of a say in the matter than I would be allowed.

However, with a wife and three kids, I think I could swallow my pride
for the sake of the family and a hot meal.
John - 14 Mar 2004 20:31 GMT
Just one final question:
How much does it "cost to live"
like pretending
rent=800
utilities,food,insurance,movies,taxes everything

Can someone outline this?

I'm not sure if I'm suited up for Pharmacy. I always thought that 40k
was poor and 60k was average so Pharmacy seemed appealing, but I'm
good in math, so 45k accountant seems better now
Amanda - 21 Mar 2004 08:37 GMT
> Just one final question:
> How much does it "cost to live"
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> was poor and 60k was average so Pharmacy seemed appealing, but I'm
> good in math, so 45k accountant seems better now

Wouldn't it depend on where you live?
John - 23 Mar 2004 00:18 GMT
> > Just one final question:
> > How much does it "cost to live"
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Wouldn't it depend on where you live?
Yeah, but prices aren't that different from Georgia and Florida. Just
wondering about a good number of the price of living... Still no
feedback
shelloid - 23 Mar 2004 18:58 GMT
> > > I'm not sure if I'm suited up for Pharmacy. I always thought that 40k
> > > was poor and 60k was average so Pharmacy seemed appealing, but I'm
> > > good in math, so 45k accountant seems better now

Just joined this news group and this caught my eye. I'm a final year
pharmacy student in the UK and if my uni is anything to go by then pharmacy
is pretty easy degree to get.
I decided to do a pharmacy degree after a few years working as a counter
assistant in a pharmacy and had really high hopes for the degree. But some
of the people on my course have no clue as to what they are doing even now
and I don't know how on earth they have got so far on the course.
Don't get me wrong I am not disheartened by pharmacy as a career and am
looking forward to my future career - I know I'll be a good pharmacist but
it makes me worried about the other pharmacists that are going to be out
there.
Sorry have got a bit off topic but as you can probably tell this is
something that really bugs me!
Shell
Nikki Passmore - 23 Mar 2004 22:31 GMT
It is difficult I have been qualified for 20 years and I am still
learning. You never know everything, just keep up to date. Should be
starting the supplementary prescribing course soon, so should be good.
Pharmacy is a lot about dealing with people as well as drugs and data, I
know some people with first class degrees who are lousy pharmacists.
Can't tell you the answer but still love the job. Welcome to the tight
rope.

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