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WeeZeeJane - 21 Jan 2004 07:12 GMT
A favor please ... a poster named Zomby in
alt.support.chronic-pain insists I am drunk or
insane because I *know* that Doctor-Shopping is
against the law.

I'm a resident in Valley Manor Nursing Home in
PA and don't have access to the references I did
prior to only having the Webtv, so I can't actually
cite case law for him as he wishes.

I'd be very grateful if anyone here could give me
a place to start to reference the laws against
the drug-seeking behavior commonly known as
"doctor-shopping"; most especially if it's
actually national law and not just a few states.

TIA ~ I'll keep checking back ...I will _not_
cross-post; it's hellish there.

WeeZee Jane  WeeC3 at webtv dot net
WeeZeeJane - 26 Jan 2004 16:36 GMT
Any information on case law for the
"addiction-type" behavior commonly
known as doctor-shopping?

Is it in the Scheduling regs themselves?
Which agency wrote them so that I
can try to look it up myself? 'Cause
I don't think it was the DEA, was it?

I'll keep checking back ... it seems like
mostly questions here only and few answers.

A pain patient looking
for answers, Weezee

I had written:       ..

> A favor please ... a poster named Zomby in
> alt.support.chronic-pain insists I am drunk or
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>
> WeeZee Jane  WeeC3 at webtv dot net
WeeZeeJane - 27 Jan 2004 18:10 GMT
> Any information on case law for the
> "addiction-type" behavior commonly
> known as doctor-shopping?
[snip]
> A pain patient looking
> for answers, Weezee

The BAD advice I'd like to warn people about:

Thread: <<< Re: About JH - To Sue NWBluePenguin >>>  

<<< Group: alt.support.chronic-pain
Date: Tue, Jan 27, 2004, 12:40am
From: Zomby-Woof@Zappa.net (ZombyWoof)

Shop til you drop (of an OD). What is stupid is someone went and
coined a phrase that does not accurately describe the behavior. The
person wasn't Dr shopping they were script shopping. A person can
actually have three or four Dr's and a dentist or two whom they are
legitimately under the care of for numerous issues and have multiple
scripts from each of them with out it being common knowledge among the
various professionals and it not being against the law either.
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WeeZeeJane - 29 Jan 2004 13:08 GMT
Top-posted:
Thank you so much for the emails; just what I needed
to know to help make chronic pain patients aware of their
responsibility to keep their prescriptions 'in a row'
to avoid problems.

Mir, WeeZ

.............

> > Any information on case law for the
> > "addiction-type" behavior commonly
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> scripts from each of them with out it being common knowledge among the
> various professionals and it not being against the law either.
Andrew McNeil - 01 Feb 2004 08:01 GMT
> A favor please ... a poster named Zomby in
> alt.support.chronic-pain insists I am drunk or
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> WeeZee Jane  WeeC3 at webtv dot net

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION....
I can't recite actual law to you but I can tell you like this....
Usually when you're under pain management you will be asked to sign a
narcotics agreement/contract saying that you romise not to receive or
attempt to get the same drugs from a different doctor/office. So if
your dentist precribes 30 Lortabs for you and then you back-pain
doctor prescribes the same thing for you
the next day, I THINK that's againt the law. I think you're supposed
to tell the 2nd doc that you already have them prescribed. HOWEVER,
you CAN get away with it. BUT you can't fill both prescriptions at the
same place. You must also stay away from places like Walgreens because
all of their store's computers are linked together all across the
country and if you try to fill 2 of the same meds at
walgreens.......the pharmacist will most likely throw your
prescription in the garbage and call your 1st doctor (This happened to
me). However, if you get busted in a situation like this, you prob
won't get in too much trouble....BUT....
If you go to 2 back-pain doctors for the same meds and they catch you,
well, then you'll most likely go to jail but whether you do or
not.....your first doctor will most likely discharge you unless you
can provide some mindboggling story that he'll buy which is unlikely.
I know that's how it is in FL and most other parts of the country. I
believe it's a federal law. These docs r scared to death about the
situation. I've been thru it for a long time with my tolerance
building up for different opioids...... especially Oxycontin. i have
problems nowadays getting doctors to write it for me. So I'm now
forced to get it online now which is MUCH safer.
 
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