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Question about Kadian (morphine sulphate)

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JackWelch - 17 Dec 2003 16:41 GMT
Can anybody tell me how much Kadian (crushed) would lethal? I want to
die and I have access to Kadian. I am thinking of 2500mg. But I don't
want to do it if that is not enough. I really don't want to fail.

Thanks,
Jack W.
Brad - 17 Dec 2003 16:49 GMT
And you are gonna base your decision on what some stranger in a newsgroup
tells you?

> Can anybody tell me how much Kadian (crushed) would lethal? I want to
> die and I have access to Kadian. I am thinking of 2500mg. But I don't
> want to do it if that is not enough. I really don't want to fail.
>
> Thanks,
> Jack W.
JackWelch - 17 Dec 2003 23:27 GMT
f.ck off. Get off my thread. What the f.ck do you care about how I
base decisions?

Jack W.

>And you are gonna base your decision on what some stranger in a newsgroup
>tells you?
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>> Thanks,
>> Jack W.
Brad - 18 Dec 2003 00:01 GMT
OOooo
Big scary jack
So I guess you answered the question.

> f.ck off. Get off my thread. What the f.ck do you care about how I
> base decisions?
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> >> Thanks,
> >> Jack W.
skipperdogs - 18 Dec 2003 02:40 GMT
First, you have to tell us why.
You might as well.
Larry

> Can anybody tell me how much Kadian (crushed) would lethal? I want to
> die and I have access to Kadian. I am thinking of 2500mg. But I don't
> want to do it if that is not enough. I really don't want to fail.
>
> Thanks,
> Jack W.
John S. Dyson - 18 Dec 2003 03:56 GMT
> First, you have to tell us why.
> You might as well.
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>> Thanks,
>> Jack W.

Jack,

The saddest thing (other than grieving family members and
friends) is the botched suicide.  Being caught in a half life
and half death seems to be worse than either alive or totally
gone...  It is TRULY and HONESTLY much better to try to
get help in dealing with emotions (there really is NOTHING
wrong with getting help from a psychologist or psychiatrist.)
In severe physical cases (except the most extreme), there can
be end-of-life pain management.

All of us has had difficult emotional times in our lives,
and I have had friends who have also died from most
heinous physical maladies (e.g. brain cancer.)  There
are good modes of treatment for ALMOST the most extreme
problems.  (Brain cancer can be difficult to treat at the
end, but my friend who died of brain cancer could function
and enjoy himself at a limited level until the last week
or two.)

Deciding to 'end it all' in difficult emotional situations
is one of the most wasteful AND SOMETIMES SELFISH things to
do.  Instead of 'ending
it all' for emotional reasons, it would be much better dedicate
the sad life towards helping children or needy people.  Truly
helping other people who are needy (perhaps in other ways)
might even work towards helping more than just the recipients
of the dedicated work.

Truly, I suggest that the situation be re-considered!!!  Times
can seem to be very tough (and sometimes they really are
hard to deal with), but there are good alternatives.

John
skipperdogs - 19 Dec 2003 03:03 GMT
Well put, John.
But he ain't listening anymore.
If he was for real, then we blew our chance.
Larry

> > First, you have to tell us why.
> > You might as well.
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>
> John
CaptainKrunch - 18 Dec 2003 12:53 GMT
Well I guess you could give it a shot but I would definitely take some
alcohol with it and while your at it take a bunch of Tylenol.  Maximum
dosage of Tylenol in a 24hr period is 4grams or 4000 milligrams so I would
go for 15 grams at least for one dose.  That for sure would f.ck up your
liver and perhaps cause you to die regardles of the other stuff.

But if your gonna go out go out big.  Take out some a.shole people with you.
Hopefully you don't know me.

I can tell you that last January my friend killed himself by taking a bunch
of xanax and alcohol.  Although that would have been enough he sat in his
car in the garage with the car running and routed a hose from the exhaust
pipe into the drivers window. They found him after a  few days.  Yuck!!

CaptainKrunch

> Can anybody tell me how much Kadian (crushed) would lethal? I want to
> die and I have access to Kadian. I am thinking of 2500mg. But I don't
> want to do it if that is not enough. I really don't want to fail.
>
> Thanks,
> Jack W.
John S. Dyson - 18 Dec 2003 19:42 GMT
> Well I guess you could give it a shot but I would definitely take some
> alcohol with it and while your at it take a bunch of Tylenol.  Maximum
> dosage of Tylenol in a 24hr period is 4grams or 4000 milligrams so I would
> go for 15 grams at least for one dose.  That for sure would f.ck up your
> liver and perhaps cause you to die regardles of the other stuff.

You are suggesting a very painful, drawn-out death (the liver failure
isn't a good thing.)  It is best to get some help to resolve the
basic issues, instead of wasting a potentially good life.

John
 
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