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Mary L - 19 Nov 2003 02:12 GMT

I've always (well, since I graduated college, and I am now a mother of
three...) had a trouble with episodiac insomnia and in the course of
my life have been through several doctors and even more medication. A
friend of mine who's moved to Europe has told me about a medicine
called zopiclone (they buy it online from www.buyzopiclone.com). My
doctor here hasn't heard of it. Could somebody here tell me:

1. How does zopiclone compare to Ambien? I normally take one tablet
of ambien.

2. Is zopiclone really not addictive? They claim it isn't, but I had
a bad experience with valium in the 80s when I felt like I had to take
it every night to sleep for a period and couldn't sleep at all when I
didn't. Is this going to happen again?

3. Is there something else better than maybe me or my doctor hasn't
heard of? Maybe something new?

Hoping you folks can provide some answers for a sleepless and worried
mom...

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BilZ0r - 19 Nov 2003 02:18 GMT

There are not good cures for insomnia, this goes for zopiclone too. It
will still be somewhat addictive, and probably works by a very similar
mechanism to benzodiazapines like Ambien.

> I've always (well, since I graduated college, and I am now a mother of
> three...) had a trouble with episodiac insomnia and in the course of
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> Hoping you folks can provide some answers for a sleepless and worried
> mom...

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Bryan - 19 Nov 2003 19:19 GMT

Zopiclone goes by the name of Imovane in Canada. It does not create a
physical dependency like valium, etc., but if you use it for longer than 7
to 10 consecutive days then stop, it can cause rebound insomnia. People
then decide they can't get to sleep without it. It's safe enough for a day
or two, but I wouldn't use it longer than that.

Trying to discover why you aren't sleeping, then trying to improve that is
always the best answer to occasional insomnia. I know maintaining good
sleep hygiene can be difficult with children, but its always better than
drugs. These drugs will put you to sleep, but the quality of sleep isn't
what it should be, so you still feel tired.

I sell medication for a living and I'm suggesting you try and go without.
Think about it.

Bryan

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validem@NOSPAMntlworld.com - 05 Dec 2003 17:42 GMT

>Zopiclone goes by the name of Imovane in Canada. It does not create a
>physical dependency like valium, etc., but if you use it for longer than 7
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>Bryan

You obviously don't suffer from insomnia. If you did you would
understand how annoyingly smug and patronizing your advice is. Specially
the bit always trotted out about drugs not giving 'proper sleep' so you
still feel tired. Try sleeping for only 3 hours a night for a few weeks
and see how you feel, then you will know why drugs are a life saver.
And please, don't try more of the same in reply. In 40years of sleep
problems I've heard it all and tried many things!!
Validem

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Bryan - 06 Dec 2003 04:54 GMT

I'm so sorry if I have offended You. My advice was not to You, it was to
the poster. If you read the original post, it stated occasional insomnia as
the problem, not chronic. I stand by my opinion.

Maybe if you got some more 'quality' sleep, you wouldn't be such an a.shole.

Bryan

> >Zopiclone goes by the name of Imovane in Canada. It does not create a
> >physical dependency like valium, etc., but if you use it for longer than 7
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> problems I've heard it all and tried many things!!
> Validem

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validem@NOSPAMntlworld.com - 07 Dec 2003 17:52 GMT

>I'm so sorry if I have offended You. My advice was not to You, it was to
>the poster. If you read the original post, it stated occasional insomnia as
>the problem, not chronic. I stand by my opinion.
>
>Maybe if you got some more 'quality' sleep, you wouldn't be such an a.shole.

That's the other problem with smug and patronising people; they really
hate having it pointed out.

Validem

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Bryan - 07 Dec 2003 18:29 GMT

Really? I find that when people don't hear what they want to hear, the
advisor suddenly becomes an idiot and has no idea what he is talking about.

BTW, I don't feel smug and I don't think its patronizing to say that you
need help, and you won't find it in drugs.

Reply if you want, but I'm done with you.

Bryan

> >I'm so sorry if I have offended You. My advice was not to You, it was to
> >the poster. If you read the original post, it stated occasional insomnia as
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> Validem

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Emma Chase VanCott - 07 Dec 2003 05:23 GMT

: still feel tired. Try sleeping for only 3 hours a night for a few weeks
: and see how you feel, then you will know why drugs are a life saver.
: And please, don't try more of the same in reply. In 40years of sleep
: problems I've heard it all and tried many things!!

Have you been for a sleep study? With a sleep disorder THAT severe, it
sounds like a good idea to get some diagnostic investigation to find out
what's going on, in order to treat the problem, not just mask it with
drugs.

In fact, some drugs can just make sleep disorders worse. (e.g. sleep
apnea)

That much sleep deprivation is dangerous, quite frankly.

Emma

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