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Reply to Mr. Gilbreath, Jr, RPh -- (was FA: 2003 Physicians' Desk Reference...)

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Albert Zanney, PharmD - 06 Nov 2003 13:25 GMT
Mr. Gilbreath,

You may make some good points about the utility of the PDR vs other
drug references, but whatever message you have is drowned out by the
anger and smug arrogance your words ooze. For example,

>Hmmm, no thanks, that's still too much to pay for a doorstop!
You must have been thinking about the book

>OK, then, we'll use the CD ROM for a coaster!  How's that!
I'm sure the seller wouldn't care what you used it for -- but why
would you want to buy it?

>As for the "C U L8R!", little child, I have used that since 1982
Little child? What arrogance! You could learn a lesson in humility
from an actual little child.

>to confuse patients and those to ignorant to ask someone
Perhaps I should send my small children over to explain to you the
difference between to, too and two.

>not even translated into non-scientific terms that idiots
>can understand, hence, it confuses them!
You obviously think a lot of the lay public.

>PDR is good for absoultely nobody with a health care professional
license
>...PDR....It was always meant for physicians, aka M.D.s, D.O.s
Somewhat contradictory statements, don't you think?

>you probably have one that reads "IMAHIKDOK"
..just too much to take from a professional person
Glenn Gilbreath Jr. - 01 Jan 2002 06:00 GMT
>From: hoppingmad@mailinator.com (Albert Zanney, PharmD)
>Subject: Reply to Mr. Gilbreath, Jr, RPh -- (was FA: 2003 Physicians' Desk
>Reference...)
>Date: 6 Nov 2003 05:25:26 -0800

>Mr. Gilbreath,

>You may make some good points about the utility of the PDR vs other
>drug references, but whatever message you have is drowned out by the
>anger and smug arrogance your words ooze. For example,

>>Hmmm, no thanks, that's still too much to pay for a doorstop!
>You must have been thinking about the book

>>OK, then, we'll use the CD ROM for a coaster!  How's that!
>I'm sure the seller wouldn't care what you used it for -- but why
>would you want to buy it?

>>As for the "C U L8R!", little child, I have used that since 1982
>Little child? What arrogance! You could learn a lesson in humility
>from an actual little child.

>>to confuse patients and those to ignorant to ask someone
>Perhaps I should send my small children over to explain to you the
>difference between to, too and two.

>>not even translated into non-scientific terms that idiots
>>can understand, hence, it confuses them!
>You obviously think a lot of the lay public.

>>PDR is good for absoultely nobody with a health care professional
>license
>>...PDR....It was always meant for physicians, aka M.D.s, D.O.s
>Somewhat contradictory statements, don't you think?

>>you probably have one that reads "IMAHIKDOK"
>..just too much to take from a professional person

Well Mr. Zanney,
IF (very big IF) you had bothered to pull your nose out of the
air long enough, you MIGHT would have read the entire dialogue
between myself and the "country doctor".  As for sending your
small children over, please don't, I have 3 children of my
own, plus a step-daughter, a grand-daughter and another grand
child on the way.  As for the typographical errors, big whoopee!
You could tell exactly what I meant.  Was I being contradictory
when I told the country doc who the PDR was for?  Think about
it.
Oh, and for the Rx student...go study, it's way past your
bedtime!
I almost fired off a heated reply, but decided against it.  I
do not wish to be accused of inflicting mental anguish on those
like yourself and Rx student who have overcame great disadvantage
when it comes to cognitive thinking abilities.  
What it boils down to is this...the PDR has outlived its usefulness.
It's as simple as that.  When the spammers stop posting on the
newsgroups about "I just found XXX at an unbelievable price!", then
I won't need to reply about the inferiority of the product!
Goodbye.
Glenn
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Glenn Gilbreath Jr. - 01 Jan 2002 06:00 GMT
>>From: hoppingmad@mailinator.com (Albert Zanney, PharmD)
>>Subject: Reply to Mr. Gilbreath, Jr, RPh -- (was FA: 2003 Physicians' Desk
>>Reference...)
>>Date: 6 Nov 2003 05:25:26 -0800

>>Mr. Gilbreath,

One last item...in the future, YOU should address me as
Doctor Gilbreath, thank you very much!  Others on the
list may continue to refer to me as Glenn, or Wiz.
But, since you insist on being exactly correct in your
too, two, to, etc., I must insist you address me by my
proper designation.
Glenn H. Gilbreath, Jr. Doctor of Pharmacy

Normally I have no need for the title, I like RPh just
as well.  But, you desire to flash "PharmD", so please
use a bit of humility yourself when addressing your
peers.

Glenn
Wizard57M
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Bob G - 07 Nov 2003 13:46 GMT
> Normally I have no need for the title, I like RPh just
> as well.  But, you desire to flash "PharmD", so please
> use a bit of humility yourself when addressing your
> peers.

Well Actually Glenn I did compose a short note in reply to the Rx Students
comments ... Basically, that I shared your opinions... BUT the more I wrote
the more it became clear that I should not post it . So I did not. !

My Wife had our checks printed up with P.D. after my name at one time and
when asked what it stood for I always replied PRETTY DUMB !    Next batch of
checks
had it removed...

Hope you enjoy your grandchildren as much as I do mine...

Bob Griffiths
Glenn Gilbreath Jr. - 01 Jan 2002 06:00 GMT
>From: "Bob G" <Rg327_remove_@adelphia.net>
>Subject: Re: Reply to Mr. Gilbreath, Jr, RPh -- (was FA: 2003 Physicians' Desk
>Reference...)
>Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 13:46:31 GMT

>> Normally I have no need for the title, I like RPh just
>> as well.  But, you desire to flash "PharmD", so please
>> use a bit of humility yourself when addressing your
>> peers.

>Well Actually Glenn I did compose a short note in reply to the Rx Students
>comments ... Basically, that I shared your opinions... BUT the more I wrote
>the more it became clear that I should not post it . So I did not. !

>My Wife had our checks printed up with P.D. after my name at one time and
>when asked what it stood for I always replied PRETTY DUMB !    Next batch of
>checks
>had it removed...

>Hope you enjoy your grandchildren as much as I do mine...

>Bob Griffiths

Hi Bob,
Yes, I enjoy my granddaughter immensely!  Always brings a smile
to my face when my daughter and her come visit at the pharmacy.
She figured out that Grandpa Glenn keeps candies under one of
the counters, hehe!  "You have candy, Grandpa?"  Of course, I
keep the local dentists in business, hehe.
I never did have my degree or designation printed on anything
until the company I worked for ordered business cards for all
of its pharmacists...it has it on there.  I still prefer to
just be called Glenn...or Wiz!  I was being called "Doc" a long
time ago, before the PharmD was a serious consideration...I
just can't bring myself to refer to myself as a "doctor".
Seems like you are just trying to make yourself more important
than you actually are.
Have a good weekend!
C U L8R!
Wiz  <{;-)
Wizard57M
Glenn Gilbreath Jr.
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Rx Student - 07 Nov 2003 14:54 GMT
All you guys do is bitch and moan like a bunch of little girls.  Way to set
an example Mr. Pharm.D.  HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  You know you have a big
head when you insist that people address you as anything except your real
name.  Grow up.

> > Normally I have no need for the title, I like RPh just
> > as well.  But, you desire to flash "PharmD", so please
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>
> Bob Griffiths
skipperdogs - 07 Nov 2003 15:12 GMT
WOW!  Who needs cable?!
(Larry, munching on popcorn)

> All you guys do is bitch and moan like a bunch of little girls.  Way to set
> an example Mr. Pharm.D.  HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  You know you have a big
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> >
> > Bob Griffiths
jdarph - 07 Nov 2003 15:42 GMT
>All you guys do is bitch and moan like a bunch of little girls.  

You sure are doing a world class job of shooting yourself in the foot.
Wait til you post your next batch of stupid questions.

Besides, you haven't met our "little girls" yet. Aimee and crew will
send you packin', little school boy.

>> > Normally I have no need for the title, I like RPh just
>> > as well.  But, you desire to flash "PharmD", so please
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>>
>> Bob Griffiths
Albert Zanney, PharmD - 07 Nov 2003 16:03 GMT
> >From: hoppingmad@mailinator.com (Albert Zanney, PharmD)
> >Subject: Reply to Mr. Gilbreath, Jr, RPh -- (was FA: 2003 Physicians' Desk
[quoted text clipped - 61 lines]
> http://members.surfbest.net/wizard57m@surfbest.net/index.htm
> -- DOS Internet, Close Windows and Keep the Internet Open! --

>One last item...in the future, YOU should address me as
>Doctor Gilbreath, thank you very much!  Others on the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>proper designation.
>Glenn H. Gilbreath, Jr. Doctor of Pharmacy

>Normally I have no need for the title, I like RPh just
>as well.  But, you desire to flash "PharmD", so please
>use a bit of humility yourself when addressing your
>peers.

I was only trying to express the opinion that you come across as a bit
arrogant. There was certainly no need for you to go to the trouble of
confirming this.
Glenn Gilbreath Jr. - 01 Jan 2002 06:00 GMT
>I was only trying to express the opinion that you come across as a bit
>arrogant. There was certainly no need for you to go to the trouble of
>confirming this.

I confirmed nothing of the sort!  If anyone has came across as
"arrogant", it is yourself!  This is a newsgroup...there are
certainly more than a few typographical errors in most posts.
The only time I ask for clarification is when it concerns a
drug name or generic which may be confused with another similar
looking/sounding name.
Oh, and PLEASE...remove the "alt.drugs" and other newsgroups
from the posts.  I do not normally even read, let alone post,
to those groups.  You do know how to trim the groups to post
to, don't you?  And can you trim excessive headers, as well as
unneeded quotes?  Good!
Goodbye,
Dr. Glenn Gilbreath Jr. DPh
Wizard57M
Glenn Gilbreath Jr.
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Cruisin n' snoozin - 10 Nov 2003 19:24 GMT
> >I was only trying to express the opinion that you come across as a bit
> >arrogant. There was certainly no need for you to go to the trouble of
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> http://members.surfbest.net/wizard57m@surfbest.net/index.htm
> -- DOS Internet, Close Windows and Keep the Internet Open! --

NO, NO, NO, please don't cut off those of us who only read alt.drugs
from this ever-entertaining thread. The fact that Dr. Galebreath DPh
doesn't read alt.drugs is just too bad -- a number of us do.
Rx Student - 06 Nov 2003 21:37 GMT
Mad props to Albert!  I was trying to control myself from saying some of the
similar things!

> Mr. Gilbreath,
>
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> >you probably have one that reads "IMAHIKDOK"
> ..just too much to take from a professional person
Glenn Gilbreath Jr. - 01 Jan 2002 06:00 GMT
>From: "Rx Student" <mtribole@purdue.edu>
>Subject: Re: Reply to Mr. Gilbreath, Jr, RPh -- (was FA: 2003 Physicians' Desk
>Reference...)
>Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:37:05 -0500

>Mad props to Albert!  I was trying to control myself from saying some of the
>similar things!

Aren't you supposed to be studying?  You are the student asking
all of us to tell you the answers to some of your homework?
Try controlling your study habits first, we can work on your
mouth later.
Glenn
Wizard57M
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rxempress - 07 Nov 2003 17:19 GMT
All this name calling started because some idiot spammed the newsgroup to
inform us about this great deal on a PDR on e-Bay. Why pay for something
when you can get the same (if not more current) information by pulling out
the wadded piece of paper jammed into the stock bottle with the cotton and
the desiccant. I can't think of one pharmacist who would pay money for a PDR
(unless it was from the 60s or 70s and had some really vintage drugs in it.)
I think we were all ranting about the waste of band width.

Secondly... RX student.  You are going to have to develop a sense of humor
or you are never going to make it in the real world.  You are going to
receive a lot of lemons when you transcend from the university.  While most
of us in this newsgroup make lemonade.. unless your attitude changes you are
going to find yourself waist high in a pile of rotting lemons.
Glenn Gilbreath Jr. - 01 Jan 2002 06:00 GMT
>From: "rxempress" <rxempress@mchsi.com>
>Subject: Re: Reply to Mr. Gilbreath, Jr, RPh -- (was FA: 2003 Physicians' Desk
>Reference...)
>Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 17:19:20 GMT

>All this name calling started because some idiot spammed the newsgroup to
>inform us about this great deal on a PDR on e-Bay. Why pay for something
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>(unless it was from the 60s or 70s and had some really vintage drugs in it.)
>I think we were all ranting about the waste of band width.

>Secondly... RX student.  You are going to have to develop a sense of humor
>or you are never going to make it in the real world.  You are going to
>receive a lot of lemons when you transcend from the university.  While most
>of us in this newsgroup make lemonade.. unless your attitude changes you are
>going to find yourself waist high in a pile of rotting lemons.

Hehe, RxEmpress, how true!
Makes you wonder how some students make it past the entrance
reviews.  Anyway...I did keep my 1982 PDR...it was given to
me as a gift by a very good friend of mine.  We had went through
the first 3 years of pharmacy school together, when he decided
to try his luck at Osteopathic medicine.  He applied and was
accepted.  We have kept in touch for all these years, some 28
of them now.  He brought me the 1982 PDR when I graduated from
pharmacy school, I returned the favor when he graduated from
the School of Osteopathic Medicine at the University of Tulsa.
To me, that 1982 PDR is only sentimental value, I can't think
of a single time when I actually used it as a reference.
Have a good weekend!
C U L8R!
Wiz  <{;-)
ps...you don't mind my little mneumonic "C U L8R!" See You Later
in my signature, do you?
Wizard57M
Glenn Gilbreath Jr.
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youcandoit@icare.com - 07 Nov 2003 17:37 GMT
does anyone else agree with me that
this topic is DONE
jp rph
Glenn Gilbreath Jr. - 01 Jan 2002 06:00 GMT
>Subject: Re: Reply to Mr. Gilbreath, Jr, RPh -- (was FA: 2003 Physicians' Desk
>Reference...)
>From: youcandoit@icare.com
>Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:37:03 GMT

>does anyone else agree with me that
>this topic is DONE
>jp rph

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Yes, I agree!  It's WELL DONE!  Stick a fork in it!
So, in the spirit of this topic being done, this is
my last post on this topic or replies to it...unless
a reply contains some other request or information.
Have a good weekend!
C U L8R!
Wiz  <{;-)
Wizard57M
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Registered Pharmacist
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M.L.A. Bakker - 11 Nov 2003 17:13 GMT
> You obviously think a lot of the lay public.

Well, come and work in pharmacy for a while, and get phonecalls like: "I
got a new boyfriend, do I need a new birthcontrol pill now?"
Happened to a collegue of mine...

MB
James Pinkerton - 11 Nov 2003 17:35 GMT
> > You obviously think a lot of the lay public.
>
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>
> MB

Never underestimate the stupidity of the average American.  I am an American
so I feel free to comment. Americans can't  even learn the metric system
after years of  public education.  Liters of gasoline, kilograms of meat,
meters, so forth are all foreign to them  Some of the best selling American
cars are listed by Consumer Reports as "lemons".

If you work in a pharmacy you had better tell the customer to remove the
foil from the Dulcolax suppository before inserting it.  People have also
been known to take them orally. Some customers believe you only have to take
a BC pill each time you have sex. .
Dan W - 16 Nov 2003 20:53 GMT
>> > You obviously think a lot of the lay public.
>>
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>been known to take them orally. Some customers believe you only have to take
>a BC pill each time you have sex. .

Classic at the hospital I used to work was the story of the pregnant woman who
was asked by the OB/Gyn who was trying to figure out how she got pregnant, if
she had been using the spermicidal jelly with her diaphram.  Patient responded
that she had been putting it on her toast every day!!

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