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Medical Forum / General / Pharmacy / October 2003Creatine
I'm using creatine as a supplement before my workout and I've had some good results after one month's use. I took 20g/day for 5 days and now I'm maintaining with 3g/day Do you pharmacists have any advice regarding creatine use? I mean, do you usually advise AGAINST using creatine? Does it have any long term side-effects or health problems? I haven't talked to a physician or pharmacist before use, and I'm just following the dosage instructions on the bottle. Thanks. (By the way, I'm a 2nd year pharmacy student and I can't wait to learn about all these things =) > I'm using creatine as a supplement before my workout and I've had some good > results after one month's use. I took 20g/day for 5 days and now I'm [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > (By the way, I'm a 2nd year pharmacy student and I can't wait to learn about > all these things =) ...and you're a real nerd because you used one of those damned emoticons...you're a horrible person! > > I'm using creatine as a supplement before my workout and I've had some good > > results after one month's use. I took 20g/day for 5 days and now I'm [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > ...and you're a real nerd because you used one of those damned > emoticons...you're a horrible person! Lay off the crack please. > I'm using creatine as a supplement before my workout and I've had some > good results after one month's use. I took 20g/day for 5 days and now [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > (By the way, I'm a 2nd year pharmacy student and I can't wait to learn > about all these things =) By second year of pharmacy school, shouldn't you be able to use the resources any of us might use? (And if not, I'm sure you can find the Pharmacy and/or Medicine library and talk to one of the friendly librarians) Your biochemistry text might be a good starting point. As well, your physiology text should cover muscle metabolism. As well, I suggest going through a pubmed search on keyword creatine. From there, you should be able to find the exercise physiology research on the dose response of creatine. As well, you might be able to find out what portion of your "results" are due to creatine and what portion is due to hard work and commitment. > > I'm using creatine as a supplement before my workout and I've had some > > good results after one month's use. I took 20g/day for 5 days and now [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > what portion of your "results" are due to creatine and what portion is > due to hard work and commitment. I think you guys understood me wrong... I know ALL about the physiology and biochemistry of creatine. And yes I've spent many hours looking into medical journals about its long term effects, and all the journal articles I've read say that it has NO long term side effects if used properly. Hell, I wouldn't be taking creatine if it weren't for all those journal articles I read first. I only wanted to confirm this from practicing pharmacists who have experience in counselling patients about creatine, thats all, because it seems too good to be true. >As well, you might be able to find out > what portion of your "results" are due to creatine and what portion is > due to hard work and commitment. Hey, its not like im taking any anabolic steroids like Androstenedione. I'm just using creatine as a supplement for my workout. Creatine help me workout longer and stimulate more muscle synthesis. I put in LOTS of hard work when I'm working out. >> > I'm using creatine as a supplement before my workout and I've had >> > some good results after one month's use. I took 20g/day for 5 days [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > have experience in counselling patients about creatine, thats all, > because it seems too good to be true. I don't think many practicing pharmacists are talking to people about creatine. The vast majority of it is bought through "health" stores such as GNC or online, and the advice you get there is worth every penny you are paying for it. If you have read the journal articles, then you have seen the doses used that show some effectiveness. As well, you will see that the performance difference that it makes is small enough that it will be noticable only to trained athletes. >>As well, you might be able to find out >> what portion of your "results" are due to creatine and what portion [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > workout. Creatine help me workout longer and stimulate more muscle > synthesis. I put in LOTS of hard work when I'm working out. Creatine will not "let you work out longer". A trained athlete using creatine may notice that they are able to complete one or possibly two more reps weight training. That is because creatine is a source of ATP. Creatine does nothing for increasing muscle hypertrophy. The accumulation of creatine in the muscle will exert a small osmotic pressure resulting in a small amount of water retention in the muscle, however, this is modest (on the order of a total change in body weight of 2 lbs). To be absolutely blunt, unless you are a trained athlete, creatine is likely doing very little for you. Hard work and dedication will do far more than any supplement. For a trained athlete, the small increase in ATP available may be useful in training and competition. For the vast majority of people supplements are a waste. But sales of creatine, whey protein, glutamine and all the other horrible tasting stuff in GNC does help stimulate the economy. P.T. Barnum knew the market... Well, I've gained 15 lbs in 1 month and I am noticably bigger and more lean. I've never grown this fast before. So I really think the creatine is doing something for me. Anyways, thanks for the info Nigel. > >> > I'm using creatine as a supplement before my workout and I've had > >> > some good results after one month's use. I took 20g/day for 5 days [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > tasting stuff in GNC does help stimulate the economy. P.T. Barnum knew the > market... Just thought I'd add this too: Study showing that creatine boosts brainpower: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3145223.stm Not that I totally believe this or anything. Its just interesting. > Well, I've gained 15 lbs in 1 month and I am noticably bigger and more lean. > I've never grown this fast before. So I really think the creatine is doing [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] > the > > market... ever look into what is will do to your kidneys later in life?? > Just thought I'd add this too: > [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] > > the > > > market... > ever look into what is will do to your kidneys later in life?? To my knowledge, the research has yet to find long term problems caused by creatine use. Got any references? There have been cases reported of atheletes that use creatine having kidney damage, however, this can't be attributed to the creatine use. The kidney damage seen in athletes is related to attempts to dehydrate in order to make weight class. > Hey, its not like im taking any anabolic steroids like Androstenedione. Androstenedione is not an anabolic steroid. Its a precurser - and a weak one at that. Brad |
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