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Isogenic - 02 Dec 2005 04:33 GMT
Hello all- I have a question.

I have recently run into an issue which troubles me. I attempted to
fill my refill for Ambien at a chain-drugstore. My insurance (which is
Medicaid) declined it, because according to my insurance, they will
only pay for 14 pills every 25 days. So, logically, that means there
will be periods when I won't have that particular medication.
So, I told the Pharmacist that I would just pay cash.
She said "No."
I explained to her that I am a cancer patient, and I need my sleep.
She still refused to let me pay cash ($51.00) for the script... saying-
"People on Medicaid can't pay cash for their scripts- it's [STORE
NAME]'s policy and State Law."
I was pretty upset.
However, I drove 7 minutes away to another store (but in the same
chain) and the Pharmacist there filled my script, and I paid cash.
Does any have a clue why this happened?
Same company.
Same script.
Different policy.

Who's right?
Here's a few facts-
I live in Connecticut, I have Medicaid, it was for 14 pills of 10mg
Ambien, and I was at a large chain.

Thanks!
Pumbaa - 02 Dec 2005 13:48 GMT
> Hello all- I have a question.
>
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> Thanks!

One of the pharmacists was wrong about the law or the one that filled your
Rx just ignored the law. The State board of pharmacy for Connecticut should
be able to tell you the law. A pharmacist buddy of mine said that in Alabama
you must have your controlled drug Rxs filled by Medicaid, if you have
Medicaid. You can not pay cash for them. This is so the State of AL can try
to prevent drug diversions. They assume if people get a control drug for
free (close to it - co-pay with Medicaid) that they will be more likely to
sell it to someone.

Its more fall out from the failed War On Drugs policy that is eating away
our rights in the United States.
Bob G. - 02 Dec 2005 15:13 GMT
>One of the pharmacists was wrong about the law or the one that filled your
>Rx just ignored the law. The State board of pharmacy for Connecticut should
>be able to tell you the law.

The State board of Pharmacy BETTER be able to tell the original poster
the "regulation" law or whatever ...

Personally I do not have a problem wqith the States limiting the use
of Ambien to "only" 14 tablets per month... nor do I have a problem
with the State refusing to pay for any more then that quanity...what I
do have a problem with is that I do not see how the State could
prohibit the original poster to pay for his medication...as long as
the Rx was being filled correctly and not every 2-3 "nights" etc...

I am semi retired with almost 40 years behind Rx counters and this
situation is new to me..and I though I had seen and heard
everything...

I have been wrong about Laws before....and to be honest I have ignored
plenty of laws in situations where "my" customers "needs" required me
to ignore them...  I do what is right for the patient  IF I possibily
can...and normally that sure does not involve bending or breaking any
laws..

Just my opinion..

Bob G..
Isogenic - 02 Dec 2005 15:14 GMT
Thank-you for your response.
I talked to another Pharmacist, (same chain, different location) and
she said that technically, the Phamacist who wouldn't let me pay cash
was correct- HOWEVER, she said that she would let me pay cash anytime,
because she understands that because my insurance only pays for 14
pills every 25 days, I could pay cash for the remainder if I so wanted.
Thanks again!
Rich - 03 Dec 2005 21:31 GMT
> Thank-you for your response.
> I talked to another Pharmacist, (same chain, different location) and
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> pills every 25 days, I could pay cash for the remainder if I so wanted.
> Thanks again!

Ask your doctor if switching to Lunesta would be appropriate for you.
It's in the same class as Ambien but has no short term use limitations
in it's literature. While it recommends that long term use of sleep
medications should only be undertaken with a doctor's supervision, it
contains an indication for long term use. Insurance companies have
latched onto this "short term use" disclaimer in all other sleep aids to
reduce cost thereby dictating a patient's drug therapy.
Rich
bbrx1 - 09 Dec 2005 04:00 GMT
there is absolutly no reason that the pharmacist should refuse to sell
the medication to you I would report this to the manager and the state
board.   My response is assuming your prescription is for 30 pills? or
a month supply if the rx was written for 14 pills than he or she can
only give 14 every fill.
 
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