Clonazepam
I have been on Clonazepam for the past 15 months at this dosage per day
for panic attacks/anxiety:
.05mg. @ 11a.m.~12p.m.
.05mg. @ 6p.m.~7p.m.
.05mg. @ 2a.m.~3a.m.
On 7/7/05 I began to taper to:
.05mg. @ 11a.m.~12p.m.
.05mg. @ 6p.m.~7p.m.
.025mg. @ 2a.m.~3a.m.
And had a slight panic attack on 7/10/05 and have been more anxious
several times each day since however the worst seems after each .05mg.
dose (about 4 hours after taking them). I also have muscle aches
(although I was diagnosed with Fibromyalagia 5 years ago) and a tight
feeling in my stomach.
I have been on many various medications for:
panic/anxiety/depression/fibromyalagia over the past 20 years.
Other than the "Ashton Method" is there a better way to accomplish
this discontinuation?
What amount, which dose of the day, for how long of time and when
should I make the next reduction? I was thinking of reducing the
morning or afternoon dose to .375 mg. and leaving the remaining doses
at .05 mg. And .025 mg. for 2 or 3 weeks and then reduce again one the
doses by .0125 mg. hoping to completely quit the medication and see if
the panic returns. If so, I would then try .025 mg. twice a day, to see
if that would be of any benefit.
I have read so many horror stories and have tried to research this
myself and am totally confused as what to do. My present doctor may not
agree with my wish to try and quit the Clonazepam and I fear a total
discontinuation of prescriptions. Should I see a neurologist, addiction
specialist, psychoparmacologist, or?
I have reduced and discontinued other medications before but this one
has me terrified and would sincerely appreciate suggestions,
recommendations or advice.
I am fairly new to Dallas, Texas and have no idea of how to find a
medical doctor who totally understands this situation and would also
have the compassion and knowledge on this subject.
Thank you in advance.
wiiltx@yahoo.com - 23 Jul 2005 08:27 GMT
Correction:
Clonazepam
I have been on Clonazepam for the past 15 months at this dosage per day
for panic attacks/anxiety:
.5mg. @ 11a.m.~12p.m.
.5mg. @ 6p.m.~7p.m.
.5mg. @ 2a.m.~3a.m.
On 7/7/05 I began to taper to:
.5mg. @ 11a.m.~12p.m.
.5mg. @ 6p.m.~7p.m.
.25mg. @ 2a.m.~3a.m.
And had a slight panic attack on 7/10/05 and have been more anxious
several times each day since however the worst seems after each .05mg.
dose (about 4 hours after taking them). I also have muscle aches
(although I was diagnosed with Fibromyalagia 5 years ago) and a tight
feeling in my stomach.
I have been on many various medications for:
panic/anxiety/depression/fibromyalagia over the past 20 years.
Other than the "Ashton Method" is there a better way to accomplish
this discontinuation?
What amount, which dose of the day, for how long of time and when
should I make the next reduction? I was thinking of reducing the
morning or afternoon dose to .375 mg. and leaving the remaining doses
at .5 mg. And .25 mg. for 2 or 3 weeks and then reduce again one the
doses by .125 mg. hoping to completely quit the medication and see if
the panic returns. If so, I would then try .25 mg. twice a day, to see
if that would be of any benefit.
I have read so many horror stories and have tried to research this
myself and am totally confused as what to do. My present doctor may not
agree with my wish to try and quit the Clonazepam and I fear a total
discontinuation of prescriptions. Should I see a neurologist, addiction
specialist, psychoparmacologist, or?
I have reduced and discontinued other medications before but this one
has me terrified and would sincerely appreciate suggestions,
recommendations or advice.
I am fairly new to Dallas, Texas and have no idea of how to find a
medical doctor who totally understands this situation and would also
have the compassion and knowledge on this subject.
Thank you in advance.
Patrick - 24 Jul 2005 03:34 GMT
Is staying on Klonopin a thing that you can not still do?
Or perhaps, discontinue it daily with something like the
Hazeldon Protocol of clonidine and phenobarb and then
use it only prn?
Just a thought.

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wiiltx@yahoo.com - 24 Jul 2005 05:36 GMT
it seems to be a matter of trying to see if i can live without any
chemical - i do not like the idea that i always have to concern myself
about having pills with me - and then being assured of getting another
prescription. also i worry about being put into any situation without
having any and going into sever withdrawal or seizures.
thank you for the reply and information as it is greatly appreciated.
clerkmaxwell - 26 Jul 2005 22:20 GMT
I think you need to find a qualified, patient, open-minded and undersanding
physician.
The American Psychiatric Association has guidelines for benzodiazepine
withdraw, involving the use of phenobarbital. The Ashton method
(www.benzo.org.uk) is quite different. I personally believe the Ashton
method is preferable, since it is backed up by a lot of clinical experience.
But, this is for you and your physician to work out. Good luck.
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Squiggles - 08 Sep 2005 14:17 GMT
> I think you need to find a qualified, patient, open-minded and undersanding
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> method is preferable, since it is backed up by a lot of clinical experience.
> But, this is for you and your physician to work out. Good luck.
I was never able to withdraw from 1.0mg taken over 12 years.
I tapered ever so gradually in a decremental (cut the pill) way;
After a year and a half I had a stroke and a seizure, not to
mention severe anxiety, physical withdrawal symptoms such as
overheating and sweating and other unexpected symptoms. This
particular benzo is very difficult to stop. I don't think my
doctor wanted me to but let me try. There should be a good reason
to withdraw from it, otherwise let sleeping dogs lie, is my
advice.
Squiggles
Timbertea - 25 Sep 2005 03:13 GMT
>> I think you need to find a qualified, patient, open-minded and
>> undersanding physician.
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> Squiggles
Klonopin & Xanax (Xanax is even more difficult) are very difficult to
quit and taper off of. Many doctors will switch you to a benzo with a
longer half life like Valium and taper you off of that instead. You
can't expect this process to go very quickly, its something that needs
to be done over many many months to avoid a lot of discomfort.
Squiggles - 25 Sep 2005 12:55 GMT
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> Klonopin & Xanax (Xanax is even more difficult) are very difficult to
> quit and taper off of. Many doctors will switch you to a benzo with a
> longer half life like Valium and taper you off of that instead. You
> can't expect this process to go very quickly, its something that needs
> to be done over many many months to avoid a lot of discomfort.
I withdrew from Xanax (about 10 years on 2.0mg) in 3 months with
relative ease (anxiety, insomnia, tingling, etc.). I was given
Xanax for anxiety in the first place whose cause *may* have been
too high a dose of Synthroid. In comparison to Rivotril (clonazepam)
this withdrawal was a piece of cake. I call clonazepam Killer K --
there is something strange about this drug - it does not feel like
it's in the same class as the other benzos - something different about
it chemically - Hoffman LaRoche must know;
Squiggles
Squiggles - 25 Sep 2005 14:39 GMT
I just did a google check on Timbertea's messages;
Hmm, I must stop being so sloppy.
Squiggles