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Diphenhydramine question.

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beaver_fever_believer@hotmail.com - 02 Jul 2005 06:57 GMT
What are some long term complications of using Diphenhydramine daily
for sleep, like say on average 200 mg a day for 6 months.
rastapasta - 03 Jul 2005 11:00 GMT
> What are some long term complications of using Diphenhydramine daily
> for sleep, like say on average 200 mg a day for 6 months.

A built-up tolerance is about all I know of. Ask your doc (of course, you
may get numerous tips here). I love diph., & buy it by the 100 ct. bottle
for ~$7, & I also get a 96 ct. box of pseudoephedrine for about the same
price, and take only the diph. if I have mainly allergy symptoms (for me,
that's a stuffy nose & itchy throat), but I'll take both the diph. &
pseudoeph. together if my nose is very stopped up due to the allergies.
(Benedryl (allergy) is both drugs---it's just more economical to buy the 2
drugs (diph./pseudoeph.) separately, & I don't always like the pseudoeph. in
my system. It seems to make me feel like I just ate some meth(amphetamine)).
(hope I didn't confuse you)
Take it easy on this (& all meds) if you have a liver disorder (HCV, etc.),
but from what I know, neither pseudoeph. or diph. are as (potentially)
harmful as APAP (acetaminophen).
helpful link (including pseudoephedrine)
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsDrugs/DiphenhydramineandPseudoephedrinecd.html#t
Coup de Grace - 04 Jul 2005 08:36 GMT
thats a load off, mainly cause I get or atleast I think I get
arrythmias every once in a while while attempting to meet up with the
sand man, I'll jump out of bed like I was john wayne bobbit and be up
for the rest of the night because of it. I never really wanted to ask
my physician because of the negative sterotypes of people who use or
abuse rather diphenhydramine, which are old homeless alcoholic
amerindians.
MobiusDick - 05 Jul 2005 15:05 GMT
Diphenhydramine does appear to be one of the only true non-addictive
sedative/hypnotics, and if it is effective in you, and you do not
escalate your dose, it appears to be a safe long term adjunct to
helping you fall to sleep.

MobiusDick
Coup de Grace - 06 Jul 2005 04:29 GMT
Yes well I don't think it's necessarily addictive but nonetheless I've
been taking it everynight basically, I think im just addicted to
getting asleep.  Melatonin and valerian root just don't cut it any more
and I get very kinda, I don't know, you might say crazy after  a few
days being awake, having to go to work is a bummer when in that state.

I've been on many different sleep meds but the doctor only gives a
couple weeks worth and I unlike others don't ever get back in normal
cycle. Zopiclone, temazipam, starnoc, ambien, clonazepam, hydroxyzine,
and on and on and Im still a fuckin insomniac.
rastapasta - 06 Jul 2005 07:11 GMT
> Yes well I don't think it's necessarily addictive but nonetheless I've
> been taking it everynight basically, I think im just addicted to
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> cycle. Zopiclone, temazipam, starnoc, ambien, clonazepam, hydroxyzine,
> and on and on and Im still a fuckin insomniac.

Ever try, ummmm, cannabis, to sleep? Makes me chill nice. The natural way.
Hawki63@sbcglobal.net - 08 Jul 2005 02:17 GMT
> Yes well I don't think it's necessarily addictive but nonetheless I've
> been taking it everynight basically, I think im just addicted to
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> cycle. Zopiclone, temazipam, starnoc, ambien, clonazepam, hydroxyzine,
> and on and on and Im still a fuckin insomniac.

have you tried Trazadone???
Coup de Grace - 26 Jul 2005 04:43 GMT
No but im going to ask my doctor.  Incidentally, dipenhydramine is
physically addictive!!!!!!!  don't be fooled it is without a doubt,
maybe not "habit forming" since I only took it regularly because I am
addicted to sleep not Diph, but it does produce physical symptoms,
pretty harsh symptoms even, a helluvalot more so than other quote
unqoute habit forming physically addictive drugs ie. weed.
rastapasta - 05 Jul 2005 18:37 GMT
> thats a load off, mainly cause I get or atleast I think I get
> arrythmias every once in a while while attempting to meet up with the
> sand man, I'll jump out of bed like I was john wayne bobbit and be up
> for the rest of the night because of it.

Ohhh...lol
Definitely talk to your doc about that. Don't be ashamed of that. It could
save your life.

>I never really wanted to ask
> my physician because of the negative sterotypes of people who use or
> abuse rather diphenhydramine, which are old homeless alcoholic
> amerindians.

Whaaaaa? Diph. -----> negative stereotypes? I'm young, but I wasn't born
yesterday----I've never heard anything like that.
nospam@aol.com - 10 Jul 2005 06:40 GMT
>thats a load off, mainly cause I get or atleast I think I get
>arrythmias every once in a while while attempting to meet up with the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>abuse rather diphenhydramine, which are old homeless alcoholic
>amerindians.

Do you eat before you go to bed.  Next time you get the arrythmias, drink half
or a full glass of water.  Maybe your stomach is working too hard to digest your
food.  It works for me.

Incidentally diphenhydramine makes me dream a lot.  I don't usually dream much.

Ora

Ora
Halo2 guy - 05 Jul 2005 20:38 GMT
Long term use is built up tolerance in a short period of time and a need to
increase dosage for same effect.  After a short while you will actually need
it to get to sleep.  It will take a couple days or so to get your body back
to not needing it to get to sleep.

Also an decrease in secretions in your trachea and eyes can cause problems.
Your dry eyes may require daily use of eye lubricants.  Preferably
preservative free if you will be using it frequently.

The dry nasal passages, mouth and throat can cause nose bleeds, and increase
your chances of sore throats and infection. The mucous keeps germs from
planting themselves and without out that mucous you may find increases
colds/sore throats.

> What are some long term complications of using Diphenhydramine daily
> for sleep, like say on average 200 mg a day for 6 months.
rastapasta - 06 Jul 2005 02:41 GMT
> What are some long term complications of using Diphenhydramine daily
> for sleep, like say on average 200 mg a day for 6 months.

Also, AFA other antihistamines I've found useful OTC drugs, esp. Drixoral
(Dexbrompheniramine maleate/pseudoephedrine), but it does seem to knock me
on my a.s, so I use it when I feel my diphenhydramine tolerance build up
(re: Halo2guy's post---he hit the main long-term issues w/diphenhydramine on
the head, AFA I'm concerned). Just took a Drixoral, actually, & I'm
finishing a cold Bud Light, watching the TX. Rangers get their a.ses beat by
Boston (I know, TMI--- the alcohol likes to talk). Drixoral seems to be
double the price of diphenhydramine, so I use it only on occasion, or if
allergies really suck, but it does work nicely.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=DVXA,DVXA:2005-07,D
VXA:en&q=drixoral


OTOH, another popular (OTC) antihistamine is Chlorpheniramine maleate (Chlor
Trimeton, among other names), but it doesn't seem to float my boat very
well, but my vet. sure gives it his stamp of approval for my dog (who needs
10mg BID, except for the winter). It knocks the dog on his a.s, too, but it
seems to help his allergy issues (mainly licking his paws, shaking his head
(itching ears, which can cause hematomas in the inner ear--- the vet said
they've already scheduled 2 surgeries this week for this issue---I woulda
never known about this problem, actually). This drug is pretty cheap.
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&rls=DVXA,DVXA:2005-07,DVXA:e
n&q=Chlorpheniramine+maleate&spell=1

 
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