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Medical Forum / General / Pharmacy / September 2003Pharmacists are reprehensible
Further proof that pharmacists are greedy, clinically-deficient oafs just trying to steal your money: Rx Prilosec sold at my local pharmacy for over $3 a capsule. Now, it is available without a prescription at only $0.64 a capsule. Who made the money off of Rx Prilosec? PHARMACISTS! Lord only knows how little they purchased it for and resold it to the sick for maximum profit. Pharmacists can no longer hide behind the excuse that the "evil pharmaceutical industry" is raising the cost of prescription drugs. Obviously, if that were the case, the industry would not allow $42 worth of Prilosec to be sold for $9. The extra money went to the glorified pill-counters' savings accounts. No wonder my local Eckerd pharmacist drives a brand new BMW. I'm sure he could explain the BMW's specs better than he can make any kind of clinical judgment as pharmacists know little to nothing of the medicines they are dispensing. I cannot wait until automation does away with this useless, greedy profession.  Signature"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe "As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand." - Josh Billings For the record, I am not really Andrew Weil, MD. I have no idea how that name got on my account. So let me guess, your REAL name is Nomen Nescio >For the record, I am not really Andrew Weil, MD. I have no idea how that >name got on my account. Remove "nospam" for e-mail >From: wallylsp@aol.comnospamor (Wally) >Date: 18 Sep 2003 14:40:20 GMT >Subject: Re: Pharmacists are reprehensible >So let me guess, your REAL name is Nomen Nescio >>For the record, I am not really Andrew Weil, MD. I have no idea how that >>name got on my account. >Remove "nospam" for e-mail Hehehehe! Attaboy, Wally! Poor old Nomen...I ALMOST feel sorry for the guy/gal...almost! Anyone that feels it is "OK" for a corporation to shaft their employees, all in the name of "business", and artificially low prices, deserves to be working for that company! C U L8R! Wiz <{;-) Wizard57M Glenn Gilbreath Jr. Registered Pharmacist http://members.surfbest.net/wizard57m@surfbest.net/index.htm -- DOS Internet, Close Windows and Keep the Internet Open! -- No, it is Karel Vanek. Wow. You found us out. I feel like such a chump. Now beat it, punk. Aimee > Further proof that pharmacists are greedy, clinically-deficient oafs just > trying to steal your money: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > dispensing. I cannot wait until automation does away with this useless, > greedy profession. 1) Prilosec just became generic around the beginning of the year 2) Hate to tell you, RPh's are lucky to make a profit after the copay. Most of the time part of your copay goes to the cost on brand name drugs. 3) Rphs are one of the few healthcare profesionals available FREE OF CHARGE to consult with. 4) Kiss my a.s. We studied hard, earned our grades and put off entertainment to get where we are. The opportunity for you to do the same is available. > 1) Prilosec just became generic around the beginning of the year > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 3) Rphs are one of the few healthcare profesionals available > FREE OF CHARGE to consult with. <snip> Number (3) It does not reflect intelligence on the part of Pharmacists to give away their services. I remember when most people paid cash for their Rxs and there was no Medicaid to pay for them. At that time you could just add a few bucks to a Rx to cover your time consulting with patients. Pharmacists should only consult with patients that they have or will have a working relationship with and the insurance companies should pay them for the Pharmacists time. Regarding (2). Pharmacists don't collective bargain. They accept insurance contracts with payment rates that other businesses would turn down. I used to work in a government run pharmacy. I saw cases where Pharmacists were charging people twenty bucks or more for a couple dozen generic tetracycline or amoxicillin. They are paying for their insurance Rxs and Medicaid Rxs by taking it from the cash patient. Pharmacists do a sorry job of educating the public just how much a prescription costs. If a person gets a cash Rx for a half dozen Zithromax or Nexium he thinks the Pharmacist is robbing him. Quite often, believe it or not, high priced brand name drugs are sold cash at a low markup. Otherwise the poor patient will never get the medication as it is too expensive and even then a lot of prescriptions go unfilled. Gee Aimee, We'll have to get those dollars back somewhere. Maybe we can raise the price on Amoxicillin to $75.00 for 30? > Gee Aimee, > > We'll have to get those dollars back somewhere. Maybe we can raise the > price on Amoxicillin to $75.00 for 30? Why not? The vet told me my dog was constipated and sent me home with a 20$ bottle of #20 generic Colace. I was busy trying to keep Skoobie from eating another dog so I just signed, paid, drove home, and screamed. > > Gee Aimee, > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > bottle of #20 generic Colace. I was busy trying to keep Skoobie from eating > another dog so I just signed, paid, drove home, and screamed. If you think a dog's vet bill is high, then whatever you do, don't not get a horse! My wife has one horse with the horse equivalent of an impacted wisdom tooth. But in this case the price quoted is quite a bit less than what my son paid a oral surgeon to remove his wisdom tooth. I wonder if it could be that even the Governor of California has not suggested "free" health and dental insurance for animals. There is a series of articles in the Wall Street Journal about gatekeeper health care in America. I personally have been shafted by an insurance company refusing to pay for medical treatment that was order by my doctor. I can't wait until Medicare prescription drug coverage leaves you out of the loop and you all starve to death as people finally get affordable medicine. >From: "Dr. PDR" <notreally@adoctor.com> >Subject: Re: Pharmacists are reprehensible >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 19:22:22 GMT >I can't wait until Medicare prescription drug coverage leaves you out of the >loop and you all starve to death as people finally get affordable medicine. Why, I can't wait either!!! Guess what, idiot...I will NEVER have to listen to imputent little morons like YOU bitching about the pharmacy being closed on a holiday, or at 9 PM, or on a weekend! That's right, jackass! We won't starve! You, however, hopefully will finally get your just rewards...NOTTADAMTHING! Wiz Wizard57M Glenn Gilbreath Jr. Registered Pharmacist http://members.surfbest.net/wizard57m@surfbest.net/index.htm -- DOS Internet, Close Windows and Keep the Internet Open! -- If you honestly believe that medicare coverage of prescription medication is going to lower the cost of medications I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you. > If you honestly believe that medicare coverage of prescription medication is > going to lower the cost of medications I've got a bridge I'd like to sell > you. I bet it will promote the use of generic drugs. It might be time to invest in Teva, Mylan, etc. Overall if it improves the health of the people it may just be worth it. No one knows if it will save money in the long run. The Seniors may just live longer if properly medicated and the government will have to pay out more money in social security! There is room for big improvement in American healthcare. Many people do not have their blood pressure, sugar, asthma, etc. properly controlled, The doctors for some reason are not treating these conditions aggressively enough. Maybe drug cost are a factor in under prescribing certain medications. Bet his ex-wife has the other car..a Yugo >The extra money went to the glorified pill-counters' savings accounts. No >wonder my local Eckerd pharmacist drives a brand new BMW. Remove "nospam" for e-mail >From: wallylsp@aol.comnospamor (Wally) >Date: 18 Sep 2003 14:41:14 GMT >Subject: Re: Pharmacists are reprehensible >Bet his ex-wife has the other car..a Yugo >>The extra money went to the glorified pill-counters' savings accounts. No >>wonder my local Eckerd pharmacist drives a brand new BMW. >Remove "nospam" for e-mail Hmmm...a Beemer?? Shucks, that makes my 1989 Oldsmobile 88 Royale a tad out of date, doesn't it? So many people just don't get it! They complain about prices at one pharmacy, and never bother to check with another RPh! Oh...my ex-wife drives some kind of import...I didn't pay for that one though...no "spousal support"...she can work, besides, she was the one roaming around, if you catch my meaning! I worked, came home, took care of my kids, get a bit of rest, back to work and repeat...now, I'm single again, still taking care of the kids, still working, but less rest???? Hehehe! C U L8R! Wiz <{;-) Wizard57M Glenn Gilbreath Jr. Registered Pharmacist http://members.surfbest.net/wizard57m@surfbest.net/index.htm -- DOS Internet, Close Windows and Keep the Internet Open! -- I don't understand why the pharmacists here give any replies to non pharmacists such as this troll. The non pharm population seems to only be interested in free advice so they can go to find the lowest cost in all instances where they find no help at all. When I worked in retail (a very tough gig and I respect these pharmacists) I refused to counsel patients who didn't purchase their Rx from me on the basis of no history and of course I took no history without the supporting Rx. Dave >>From: wallylsp@aol.comnospamor (Wally) >>Date: 18 Sep 2003 14:41:14 GMT [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >http://members.surfbest.net/wizard57m@surfbest.net/index.htm >-- DOS Internet, Close Windows and Keep the Internet Open! -- >From: davidst302@myway.com (David St.) >Subject: Re: Pharmacists are reprehensible >Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:48:18 GMT >I don't understand why the pharmacists here give any replies to non >pharmacists such as this troll. The non pharm population seems to only [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >counsel patients who didn't purchase their Rx from me on the basis of >no history and of course I took no history without the supporting Rx. >Dave >>In article <20030918104114.26721.00000873@mb-m26.aol.com> >wallylsp@aol.comnospamor (Wally) writes: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >>I'm single again, still taking care of the kids, still >>working, but less rest???? Hehehe! Dave, As you can probably surmise, many of the replies I give are a means of letting off steam and venting frustrations, hehe! Other times, I insert a bit of "tongue-in-cheek" humor, but those posts sometimes go right over the original poster's head. Those times when I do offer some advice in regards to a particular medication, the information is of a very general nature, nothing unique to the person requesting information, and I normally will direct them to ask their personal pharmacist and/or physician for more detailed advice. With the implementation of HIPAA regulations in April 2003, that is about all a healthcare provider can do on these public forums. C U L8R! Wiz <{;-) Wizard57M Glenn Gilbreath Jr. Registered Pharmacist http://members.surfbest.net/wizard57m@surfbest.net/index.htm -- DOS Internet, Close Windows and Keep the Internet Open! -- > Dave, > As you can probably surmise, many of the replies I give are [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > http://members.surfbest.net/wizard57m@surfbest.net/index.htm > -- DOS Internet, Close Windows and Keep the Internet Open! -- It is better to let off steam and vent frustrations on a newsgroup than to resort to actual physical violence to health care providers. The posters often make some very valid points. For instance, why don't we have some level of tax funded universal health care for everyone regardless of his employment or health status? Why should Americans pay the highest drug prices in the whole world for prescription medications? We should be getting a volume discount, as the USA seems to be the most dope using country in the world. The war on drugs is working as well as our war on alcohol James Pinkerton RPh., MS Registered Pharmacist > > Dave, > > As you can probably surmise, many of the replies I give are [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Glenn Gilbreath Jr. > > Registered Pharmacist And as for me, I am here in whatever mood I choose to be in, because nobody here is paying me to be serious. Aimee Gosh Aimee... didn't even know you knew how to spell serious... let alone its definition Wow, That was interesting reading!! Any one who is going to claim that retail pharmacists are making all the money out of the high prices of prescription medicaions must be stuck in the early days of pharmacy when retail pharmacies were actually owned by the pharmacists working in them. All I have to say is CHAIN PHARMACY--- us retail pharmacist do not benefit in no other way then to enjoy listening to idiots like the moron Dr. PDR--- complain about things he has no $#%@ idea about. Joe -- Mass Rph > Gosh Aimee... didn't even know you knew how to spell serious... let alone > its definition > Gosh Aimee... didn't even know you knew how to spell serious... let alone > its definition Have I slipped that much? And is my spelling that bad? Aimee eh, just kidding. > Bet his ex-wife has the other car..a Yugo > > >The extra money went to the glorified pill-counters' savings accounts. No > >wonder my local Eckerd pharmacist drives a brand new BMW. The pharmacist drives a brand new BMW because he is busy overdosing the seniors with sleeping pills and then rifling their purses while they sit in the waiting area, right? Considering the average pharmacists' ethical standards, it is certainly possible. >From: "Dr. PDR" <notreally@adoctor.com> >Subject: Re: Pharmacists are reprehensible >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 19:18:59 GMT >Considering the average pharmacists' ethical standards, it is certainly >possible. Aw, shucks...you're embarrassing yourself! You question the average pharmacist's ethical standards, and yet you "steal" the title "Dr. PDR" to impune some sort of authority on your pathetic, miserable life!!!! Do us ALL a favor...go stick your head in the toilet 3 times...remove your head for a gulp of air after the first two times, then hold your head in the toilet as long as possible on the third try...ah, heck...forget it...you strike me as being almost intelligent enough to attempt sucide by natural gas using a microwave oven! Get lost loser... Wiz <{:-| Wizard57M Glenn Gilbreath Jr. Registered Pharmacist http://members.surfbest.net/wizard57m@surfbest.net/index.htm -- DOS Internet, Close Windows and Keep the Internet Open! -- > Considering the average pharmacists' ethical standards, it is certainly > possible. _UCKING Idiot > Considering the average pharmacists' ethical standards, it is certainly > possible. Good reply from someone who seems to put a value on the PDR! > Considering the average pharmacists' ethical standards, it is certainly > possible. Still sore that you couldn't score some Rohypnol from your CVS? Don't blame the pharmacist- blame the DEA or FDA. In the interest of comic relief from this vitriol, I would always hear my retail patients complaining that Bactrim DS (or their generic) tablets were "horse pills". Finally, in 1985, I filled a prescription for Bactrim DS, 7 tablets daily for 14 days---for a horse. SignaturePaul Trusten, R.Ph. 3609 Caldera Boulevard Apartment 122 Midland TX 79707-2872 USA 432-694-6208 ptrusten@cox.net "There are two cardinal sins, from which all the others spring: impatience and laziness." ---Franz Kafka > Further proof that pharmacists are greedy, clinically-deficient oafs just > trying to steal your money: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > dispensing. I cannot wait until automation does away with this useless, > greedy profession. |
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