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Barbara Schwarz - 24 Apr 2005 20:26 GMT
Rosemarie died on Sunday, April 24, 2005, at 12.50 am.

My sister was at her side in the hospital.

She did not want to die in a hospital, but it would have been to
painful for her and too late to return her home for dying.

My sister told her something very nice and scientological to her, that
when Rosemarie had left her painful body, she would leave the hospital
very slowly, so that Rosemarie in spirit can come with her, she would
hold the car door open that she can get inside, and then my sister
would drive her to her hometown and let her fly free there.

And that is what my siblings and Melli did today. My brother knew that
the thetan can go through walls and glass, but my sister tried to make
it as easy as she could for Rosemarie.

I am however glad that my siblings don't see me now, as I they would
think that I am the next to  die. I am in pain because my kidneys
flamed up again, courtesy of the German psychs. I curse them, as that
is the least what they deserve.

I did not have any kidney problems before the psychs injected against
my will for approximately seven months (one injection each Friday on 3
pm) poison in my kidneys to "deprogam me". It did not work anyway. I
stayed the same person in personality and belief, only it was sort of
acknowledged that L. Ron Hubbard was right that psychs are
unprofessional, quacks, dangerous und suppressive butchers, because I
saw them and experienced them in actions. But after they injected their
toxic garbage in my kidneys, the pains in the kidneys come and go.

Thanks a lot psychs, consider yourself punched hard in the noses by me,
that is the least I can do.

Again, I am convinced the medication, esp. the pills that Rosemarie had
to take to control her asthma caused her liver cancer and that whatever
is going on in my kidneys is the product of the psychs, the pharma
industry and their doctors who approve and sell that stuff from hell.

It dawned on my a little while ago that with Rosemarie gone, I have no
PTS A, PTS C or PTS 1 situtation anymore, but despite everything, I
knew her so well and so long and I sure are sad.

Barbara Schwarz
brick in the wall - 24 Apr 2005 21:18 GMT
Barbara, I am sad with you.
I hope, you can overcome the deepest sorrow soon and you can find a
little consolation in the thought, that your Rosemarie does not have to
suffer so much pain anymore.
Send you a sunbeam.

.::brick::.
Barbara Schwarz - 25 Apr 2005 21:51 GMT
> Barbara, I am sad with you.
> I hope, you can overcome the deepest sorrow soon and you can find a
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>
> .::brick::.

Thanks, Brick.

I am not in deep grief, I am mainly sad. Late at her life she was not
more pushy and demanding nor controlling, so what I had problems with,
was pretty much gone during the last five years. If she would have had
that kind of friendly personality earlier in life, it would have made
me very happy.

I feel always pain when I see old people, how they cling on their
walkers, afraid to fall, how they suffer with pains, how they lose
control over their bodies step by step, unable to do the things that
they want to do, and most of all not knowing what is waiting for them
at the end, how much more they have to suffer and if they see their
loved once again.

I came to the conclusion that if there is hell, than it is the last
part of just about anybody's life. Rosemarie suffered for 15 years
terrible with all kinds of medical problems. And she is not the only
one.

I know that most here don't believe me that if we all would change our
lifestyles that we could abolish aging and suffering from illnesses,
but I am convinced it is possible and must be archived for the sake of
all of us.

Barbara Schwarz
Phil Scott - 03 May 2005 07:35 GMT
> > Barbara, I am sad with you.
> > I hope, you can overcome the deepest sorrow soon and you can find a
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> but I am convinced it is possible and must be archived for the sake of
> all of us.

  It is largely possible... getting off of the american diet
of processed foods helps immensely if begun early enough...
and Ive done things to get rid of partial protien plaques that
clogg both the nerve channels and the blood vessels.. and have
regained flexibilty, skin tone, stamina and my stunning good
looks ..and Im 64 now. Im in way better shape than I was at
age 40.

  If SEGNPMESS or whatever that cluster f.ck is screws with
me I will cut their balls off.

Phil Scott

> Barbara Schwarz
Phil Scott - 24 Apr 2005 21:55 GMT
> Rosemarie died on Sunday, April 24, 2005, at 12.50 am.
>
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>
> Barbara Schwarz

Get a book on 'Raw vegitable and leafy greens juicing'
follow the advice.  You can get the bogus chemicals cleaned
out of your body and your kidneys up to speed most likely in a
few weeks.... you need to read the books though...there are
many ways to do it wrong and damage yourself.    Meantime
eliminate the junk food, dairy products, bread and red meat...
eat some salmon and salads, drink some red wine.  Buy some
different brands of *vegitable enzymes...broad spectrum  and
follow the directions... before bedtime... do not do that with
animal parts derived enzymes... start slow, monitor carefully.

read a book on enzyme suppliments dont do it blindly.

Phil Scott
Barbara Schwarz - 25 Apr 2005 21:58 GMT
> > Rosemarie died on Sunday, April 24, 2005, at 12.50 am.
> >
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> Get a book on 'Raw vegitable and leafy greens juicing'
> follow the advice.
I know that vegetable are the best one can do for the body, same goes
for juice. Are you drinking that, Phil?

> You can get the bogus chemicals cleaned
> out of your body and your kidneys up to speed most likely in a
> few weeks....
Bogus chemicals? There are real chemicals. Actually, I have no clue
what really was in these injections. For all I know these psychs could
have experimented on me or injected rat poison in my kidneys.

It is also odd that they injected it directly in the kidneys and not in
upper legs or the behind.

>you need to read the books though...there are
> many ways to do it wrong and damage yourself.    Meantime
> eliminate the junk food, dairy products, bread and red meat...

I don't eat that anyway.

> eat some salmon and salads, drink some red wine.
Remember, you are talking to a Scientologist, Phil. :) We don't drink.
I don't start with alcohol. I heard that there were some news about
health benefits, but I also heard the same are in red grape juice.

> Buy some
> different brands of *vegitable enzymes...broad spectrum  and
> follow the directions... before bedtime... do not do that with
> animal parts derived enzymes... start slow, monitor carefully.
>
> read a book on enzyme suppliments dont do it blindly.

I will check it out, thanks.

Barbara Schwarz

> Phil Scott
Phil Scott - 01 May 2005 03:23 GMT
> Bogus chemicals? There are real chemicals.

Thats correct. by bogus I meant 'bad' for you chemicals.
Kidney damage is common in people who have been
insitutionalized and given a lot of drugs.

>Actually, I have no clue
> what really was in these injections. For all I know these psychs could
> have experimented on me or injected rat poison in my kidneys.

They keep trying whatever they have until they find something
they think works... in some cases they do, and in others they
dont... then there is the situation of ill will toward the
patient.   A lot of damage is common.

> It is also odd that they injected it directly in the kidneys and not in
> upper legs or the behind.

That is odd.

> >you need to read the books though...there are
> > many ways to do it wrong and damage yourself.    Meantime
> > eliminate the junk food, dairy products, bread and red meat...

> I don't eat that anyway.
>
> > eat some salmon and salads, drink some red wine.
> Remember, you are talking to a Scientologist, Phil. :) We don't drink.

    Hubbard drank like a fish you know...a notorious drug
abusing drunk.  A little red wine might be good for you.. or
it might not be.  You have to decide.

> I don't start with alcohol. I heard that there were some news about
> health benefits, but I also heard the same are in red grape juice.

Red grape juice or concord grape juice has similar benefits as
does non dutch processed dark chocolate... raw vegitable juice
fasting though offers the best cure in many cases...very fast.
but you need to read a book on the issue it can be damaging if
not done right.

> > Buy some
> > different brands of *vegitable enzymes...broad spectrum  and
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>
> I will check it out, thanks.

Yer welcome barb.

Phil Scott

> Barbara Schwarz
> >
> > Phil Scott
Barbara Schwarz - 02 May 2005 19:29 GMT
> > Bogus chemicals? There are real chemicals.
>
> Thats correct. by bogus I meant 'bad' for you chemicals.
> Kidney damage is common in people who have been
> insitutionalized and given a lot of drugs.

The p$ych$ left there unprofessional calling card, their murderous
business card directly in my kidneys by injecting that stuff, whatever
it was. It just harmed.

> >Actually, I have no clue
> > what really was in these injections. For all I know these
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> dont... then there is the situation of ill will toward the
> patient.   A lot of damage is common.

That is why L. Ron Hubbard was right, opposing them. Who else did
before he did, Phil?

> > It is also odd that they injected it directly in the kidneys
> and not in
> > upper legs or the behind.
>
> That is odd.
Tell me about it.

> > >you need to read the books though...there are
> > > many ways to do it wrong and damage yourself.    Meantime
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> abusing drunk.  A little red wine might be good for you.. or
> it might not be.  You have to decide.

Ron did not drink. Jack, the impostor probably did. Ron did not take
drugs, and the Vistaril guy was Jack and not Ron.

> > I don't start with alcohol. I heard that there were some
> news about
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> but you need to read a book on the issue it can be damaging if
> not done right.

I read that too about the veggies. I rather go with the veggies than
the chocolate.

Barbara Schwarz

> > > Buy some
> > > different brands of *vegitable enzymes...broad spectrum
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> > >
> > > Phil Scott
Phil Scott - 03 May 2005 07:00 GMT
> > > Bogus chemicals? There are real chemicals.
> >
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> That is why L. Ron Hubbard was right, opposing them. Who else did
> before he did, Phil?

All shrinks arent bad... just some are...same with engineers,
doctors, lawyers and plumbers...in life its a mix there are
good people and bad people in all areas.

Areas where complete control of others is available seem to
attrack a higher precentage of ill intended people.

Psychiatry is not inherently bad however.  It was stupid in
the early stages because the pervasive ignorance... today its
less ignorant and there are some actually useful drugs
available...and also missued etc too...and these can be abused
by govt to attack citizens with.

But is not smart to say all shrinks are bad.. its a mix.

The Nazi's targeted bad conditions in germany to make
themselves look good.  Hubbard and all cult leaders do that...
they point to the bad, then by reflection they claim they are
good.. then perfect... then that the culture because it
tolerates this or that bad condition insane... then by
reflection the cult is made to be imminently sane... then the
only sanity on earth... the the founder is deified.  Thats how
the fraud is instituted.  In the end we see these are always
with no exceptions frauds.

their own tactics make them frauds.

So do I support scn in attacking psychiatry?  Oh yes..anything
with that much leverage on people needs full exposure and
constant attack.. its a counter balance regardless any right
or wrong issues.

So what has the scn attack done to psychiatry?  Its forced
them to clean up their act to some degree.   What has expose
of the criminal cult done?  Well its kept a lot of people from
getting screwed.

Oposition is a good thing.    Trying to eliminate opposition
is a waste of time.

Now go read yer raw juice book, see a good MD and whatever
and get your kidneys fixed up.. it should take a week to
relieve the pain...and maybe 3 to 6 months to heal..then a
year or so to rebuild.

Phil Scott
Barbara Schwarz - 04 May 2005 02:16 GMT
> > > > Bogus chemicals? There are real chemicals.
> > >
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> doctors, lawyers and plumbers...in life its a mix there are
> good people and bad people in all areas.

The only good psych is one like Thomas Szasz who admits that p$ychiatry
is butchery and a scam.

>  The Nazi's targeted bad conditions in germany to make
> themselves look good.  Hubbard and all cult leaders do that...
Please, give me a break! You must be out of your mind to compare Ron in
this regard.

> Now go read yer raw juice book, see a good MD and whatever
> and get your kidneys fixed up.. it should take a week to
> relieve the pain...and maybe 3 to 6 months to heal..then a
> year or so to rebuild.

Doctors are SEGNPMSS controlled. I have to cure myself. Also, I don't
have any money for doctor visits.

Barbara Schwarz
Phil Scott - 04 May 2005 07:55 GMT
"Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaraSchwarz2003@excite.com>

> >  The Nazi's targeted bad conditions in germany to make
> > themselves look good.  Hubbard and all cult leaders do that...

> Please, give me a break! You must be out of your mind to compare Ron in
> this regard.

  Both Hubbard and Adolph began with what appeared to be good
and benefiicent intend and both developed a good reputation...
then it both went corrupt.. then completely destructive.

  Do you know Barbara that you can get a book published in
1940  (I have a copy)   By Herman Rauchning, A german
originally published in German.."Genesis of Evil"  still in
print I believe...your library might have it if the scn's
havent stolen it..  Hitlers policy was well described by
Rauchning... 1940... 20 years later many of the same almost
word for word appeared in phatso's crap.

  Did you know that the USGO was required by Hubbard to read
Mein Kaumph?  They were... I was given a tour of the USGO
offices in Sacramento and saw the book on their book shelf..
the USGO guy said to me  "we are told to read this for the
*tactics...not the philosphy"  yet it ws the same ruthless
philosophy Hubbard cloned into his policy letters.

 You need to do some broader reading Barb..and fast on some
raw vegitable juice too.

> > Now go read yer raw juice book, see a good MD and whatever
> > and get your kidneys fixed up.. it should take a week to
> > relieve the pain...and maybe 3 to 6 months to heal..then a
> > year or so to rebuild.

> Doctors are SEGNPMSS controlled.

      Well if thats not entirely true, they sure as hell are
drug company controlled..and that cant possibly be any better.

> I have to cure myself. Also, I don't
> have any money for doctor visits.

Correct you have to cure yourself these days.  Rarely a good
doctor if you can find one can help in a pinch...but its you
that has to come up to speed on the real issues.

The doctors Ive met are mostly operating with bogus
information.

Phil Scott

> Barbara Schwarz
Mentally retarded lesbian Barbara Schwarz' imaginary husband Mark Rathbun de Rothschild - 04 May 2005 09:10 GMT
You don't have any money because you're too lazy and mentally ill to
get a job.

Why does your family have to support a woman like you in her 40's,
loony tune?
Lisa Ruby - 25 Apr 2005 03:18 GMT
Barbara,

I am so sorry for the loss of your dear friend.

Also, I agree that what the psyciatrists inflicted upon you was
inhumane and cruel. Are your kidneys hurting you on a daily basis?
Barbara Schwarz - 25 Apr 2005 22:03 GMT
> Barbara,
>
> I am so sorry for the loss of your dear friend.

Hi Lisa. She was no dear friend of mine, but she was a thetan and I
knew her for so long. We were enemies of most of our lives, and I was
not the one who started the fight. However, I have compassion and
despite everything, I suffered when she did. My problems with the
kidneys started after she committed me against my will in a psychiatric
hospital and the psychs injected garbage in them. When she became ill
and was in the hospital several times in the USA, I walked to her every
day, and looked out for her that she does not come to harm

> Also, I agree that what the psyciatrists inflicted upon you was
> inhumane and cruel. Are your kidneys hurting you on a daily basis?

Right now, yes. It comes and goes. I had this already years ago, it
went away, but it came back. Since the psychiatric treatment I have
always a kind of stiff back feeling also.  

Barbara Schwarz
Lisa Ruby - 26 Apr 2005 04:15 GMT
Barbara wrote:

>My problems with the kidneys started after she committed me against my
will in a >psychiatric hospital and the psychs injected garbage in
them. When she became ill
>and was in the hospital several times in the USA, I walked to her
every day, and looked >out for her that she does not come to harm.

She hurt you and you helped her in her time of need. It is called
blessing those who curse you. I am sure you have no regrets for being
kind to her in her time of need.
Barbara Schwarz - 26 Apr 2005 16:49 GMT
> Barbara wrote:
>
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> blessing those who curse you. I am sure you have no regrets for being
> kind to her in her time of need.

No, I have no regrets of having helped her in time of need, Lisa. If I
would have physically lived with her during the last five years of her
life, I would have taken perfectly care of her.

I did it in Utah. I did everything for her. I cooked, took care of the
apartment, made all her medical and official paperwork, translated
everything for her and filed a lawsuit on her behalf after she was
injured and won a nice settlement for her. She had time for herself,
could watch lots of TV, was singing with the Mormons, could make walks,
and things like that. One day she asked me to translate black
propaganda against Scientology. That I refused, but otherwise, I did
everything for her.

When she had her Asthma attacks, short before suffocating, I ran to get
the paramedics. Rosemarie herself told me that I saved her life.

Rosemarie and I had troubles before Scientology even came in the
picture.
She really was very controlling. My sister gave in, and my brother and
I were protesting. However, my sister complained later in life that
despite she did everything to please Rosemarie to obtain her love,
Rosemarie loved me and also my brother more. I could not have been as
bad as Nessie wants to make me look. True, I once in a while told
Rosemarie that I hate her and that I want her to go to hell, but
Rosemarie told same to me. So, we are even. ;) We both meant it at the
moments, but not normally, to clear that up.

Five months before her death, I wrote her a letter that I remember also
the times in which she was good, e.g. when she baked her appelstrudel
and prepared the breakfast dash with nice tablecloth and so on, when
she gave me books as presents to x-mas or when she read to us as
children, and I she told me at the phone that she was so happy to get
this letter.

I am still thinking that Rosemarie knew about Marty (Mark C. Rathbun)
whereabout and did not tell me, but I had no proof, I had to let it go.
During the last 20 years I asked her so often if she would have
knowledge about him, filed something against him behind my back, but
she always denied it. But I still can't shake the feeling that she knew
something that I should have known.

Barbara Schwarz
Mother-hating schizophrenic Barbara Bossie Schwarz - 04 May 2005 09:33 GMT
Lisa:

Please don't feed the monkey.  Her delusional claims have no factual
basis to them.

Barbara is a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic which she reveals over
and over again in her own comments.
rmayf - 25 Apr 2005 07:16 GMT
Barb,

I'm sorry for your loss.

I hope that you're seeing a physician, (not a psych) about your kidneys.

rmayf

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> Rosemarie died on Sunday, April 24, 2005, at 12.50 am.
>
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>
> Barbara Schwarz
Barbara Schwarz - 25 Apr 2005 22:21 GMT
> Barb,
>
> I'm sorry for your loss.

It is better for Rosemarie that she is released now. Besides her liver
cancer that was diagnosed so late (two days before dying) she had to
inhale sharp medicine and eat a handfull pills every day to just not
suffocate. Her lungs were full of muccus for the last 15 years. It was
hell for her.

> I hope that you're seeing a physician, (not a psych) about your kidneys.

Physicans are little psychs, and many are clueless. Rosemarie was seen
by several doctors and they all misted her liver cancer. I know you
guys don't want to believe it, but I think that in medicine (and water
and food) are germs and that they can be remote controlled activated.

If I go to the doctor, I just get more chemicals. If the SEGNPMSS gets
serious on that issue, I may die on kidney failure or kidney cancer.
When they stop activating the germs in my kidneys, I will be fine and
will stay alive for a long time to come. A regular doctor can't help
me. Law enforcement going after medical terrorists would be my rescue.

Even a kidney transplant may be a joke, because if the kidney is also
full with germs, I may just have the same problem that I have now just
with another kidney.

I know you don't believe me, but it is nevertheless the truth. Any
animals can be trained and so can germs. I heard it recently also in
the news. An university claimed that they can make fruit flies do
exactly what they want, and germs are just s little smaller, but same
easily to manipulate and run.

However, if I die, I come after the SEGNPMSS as bodyless thetan. I will
be come the worst poltergeist that they can imagine. :) I will teach
them respect. That is my promise.

Barbara Schwarz

> rmayf
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> >
> > Barbara Schwarz
Phil Scott - 03 May 2005 07:19 GMT
> > Barb,
> >
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> exactly what they want, and germs are just s little smaller, but same
> easily to manipulate and run.

      While it might be an halucination of yours that there
is such as SEGNPMSS...it is not a haluciation that our US govt
has a long record of doing all sorts completely nasty things
to people with very advance research into such as pathogens
targeted to specific genetic traits...thats not even news.

It is probably an halucination that these shrinks care enough
about you to do continued harm... you were just a passing
opportunity.. they get paid to 'treat people'... so you were
upset or whatever and they snagged you in for 'treatment'.

But since you were a victim you have internalized it into a
more deliberate personal attack than it was.. ascribed
forethought to it...  probably creating SEGNPMSS when the
assault on you was most likely that of merely mindlessly
corrupt morons.

> However, if I die, I come after the SEGNPMSS as bodyless thetan. I will
> be come the worst poltergeist that they can imagine. :) I will teach
> them respect. That is my promise.

Dont put off until tommorrow what you can do today.. find some
shrink to sue, the sue him.   Then to be fair, find some
shrink who prescribed and monitored say lithium for example to
a raving psychotic and cured him...   Give him the Barb award
for good medicine.

Following phatso's blanket condemnation of all medical
doctors, dumb and corrupt as bolts as some of them are, is not
rational.

A slight move off onto an irrational track can go totally
south quickly...better to have less polarized views....
polarized any position is corrupted.

Do you think there is any person in the world who decided to
go into medicine and became a shrink that might have been an
innocent and perhaps not ill intended?

Face it Barb... there must be a few.

Given that then, its not shrinks generally that are all bad...
its just the idiots and abusers who gravitate to the field
that need the expose'.

Phil Scott

> Barbara Schwarz
>
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> > You can find SigChanger at: http://www.phranc.nl/
> > "Barbara Schwarz" <barbara.schwarz@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> > > Rosemarie died on Sunday, April 24, 2005, at 12.50 am.
> > >
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> > >
> > > Barbara Schwarz
Barbara Schwarz - 04 May 2005 02:21 GMT
> > > Barb,
> > >
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> to people with very advance research into such as pathogens
> targeted to specific genetic traits...thats not even news.

That is what the SEGNPMSS tells their agents to claim that they don't
exist, to infiltrate the U.S. government and blame it on Uncle Sam.

>  It is probably an halucination that these shrinks care enough
> about you to do continued harm... you were just a passing
> opportunity.. they get paid to 'treat people'... so you were
> upset or whatever and they snagged you in for 'treatment'.

Guess, you don't know much about my life if you think so.

> But since you were a victim you have internalized it into a
> more deliberate personal attack than it was.. ascribed
> forethought to it...  probably creating SEGNPMSS when the
> assault on you was most likely that of merely mindlessly
> corrupt morons.

I can differenciate between SEGNPMSS and just morons.

> > However, if I die, I come after the SEGNPMSS as bodyless
> thetan. I will
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> Dont put off until tommorrow what you can do today.. find some
> shrink to sue, the sue him.
I have to sue the German government and their psychs.

> Then to be fair, find some
> shrink who prescribed and monitored say lithium for example to
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>
> Face it Barb... there must be a few.
No, there are not. The psychs in soap operas perhaps, but they are no
psychs, they are actors.

> Given that then, its not shrinks generally that are all bad...
> its just the idiots and abusers who gravitate to the field
> that need the expose'.

I saw them with my own eyes doing their dangerous crap. They were
horrible.

Barbara Schwarz

> Phil Scott
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> > > >
> > > > Barbara Schwarz
Phil Scott - 04 May 2005 08:11 GMT
"Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaraSchwarz2003@excite.com>

> That is what the SEGNPMSS tells their agents to claim that they don't
> exist, to infiltrate the U.S. government and blame it on Uncle Sam.

I wont disagree with you there... for example the 'federal'
reserve banks at the top are not US government related..they
print money, sell it to the US govt for 75 cents a bill (any
denomination) thats fair..but then they loan that money to our
banks for interest and thereby suck the nation dry.

The drug companies are operating similarly.. and yes the USG
is blamed when its really those operating above that
level...however our glorious USG is plenty corrupt in its own
right... and yes inside that corruption are outside
interests...crime at the top is supra national.

> >  It is probably an halucination that these shrinks care enough
> > about you to do continued harm... you were just a passing
> > opportunity.. they get paid to 'treat people'... so you were
> > upset or whatever and they snagged you in for 'treatment'.
>
> Guess, you don't know much about my life if you think so.

    I just voice my uniformed opinion.  I do think you are
halucinating some of this stuff though...that does not mean
you are.  But I am free to tell you what I think.  Who knows,
other views often help a person..but sometimes not.

 take what I say with a lot of salt and you should be fine.

> > But since you were a victim you have internalized it into a
> > more deliberate personal attack than it was.. ascribed
> > forethought to it...  probably creating SEGNPMSS when the
> > assault on you was most likely that of merely mindlessly
> > corrupt morons.

> I can differenciate between SEGNPMSS and just morons.

   I will not contest that at all... it is your definition of
who and what is 'SEGPMSS' that might be overly broad or not
sufficiently catagorized for complete clarity.  I like the
acronym though...what do the letters stand for?

> > > However, if I die, I come after the SEGNPMSS as bodyless
> > thetan. I will
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> > Dont put off until tommorrow what you can do today.. find some
> > shrink to sue, the sue him.

> I have to sue the German government and their psychs.
>
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> >
> > Face it Barb... there must be a few.

> No, there are not. The psychs in soap operas perhaps, but they are no
> psychs, they are actors.

    You met some really bad ones, and there is no shortage of
those.. that has skewed your view...as ones view becomes
extreme an unhealthy base is formed...but yes, in some cases
an extreme view is warranted.

...better to go seek out some good shrinks maybe...to balance
your view... you will find some who are vocally against the
use of physchotropic drugs..others who apply them modestly  to
good effect.

> > Given that then, its not shrinks generally that are all bad...
> > its just the idiots and abusers who gravitate to the field
> > that need the expose'.
>
> I saw them with my own eyes doing their dangerous crap. They were
> horrible.

    I dont doubt that in the faintest.  the world is not
short of arrogant destructive idiots...and worse.

Phil Scott

> Barbara Schwarz
> >
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> > > > "Barbara Schwarz" <barbara.schwarz@gmail.com> wrote in
> > message

news:1114370817.373568.248600@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > Rosemarie died on Sunday, April 24, 2005, at 12.50 am.
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > Barbara Schwarz
Mother-hating schizophrenic Barbara Bossie Schwarz - 04 May 2005 09:34 GMT
Bwahahaha.....

You're going to sue the psychs now?

You can't even sue me with the 8 separate lawsuits that you've
threatened me with?

Your delusions runneth over, Loony Tune.
RolandRB - 25 Apr 2005 08:33 GMT
I was very sorry to hear of your loss and also for your own kidney
condition and hope that you can receive helpful treatment that will
cure it.

Roland
idaj007@aol.com - 25 Apr 2005 18:20 GMT
I too am sorry for your loss Barbara.  Find comfort in that your sis
was there
to be with her.  When one is disconnected both parties suffer so much
but
you know now she is at peace.
I hope you find a good doctor to help you with the kidney problem.
Please
don't put off getting help as there are good medicines that will
perhaps
take care of the problem

Ida Camburn
Barbara Schwarz - 25 Apr 2005 22:32 GMT
idaj...@aol.com wrote:
> I too am sorry for your loss Barbara.  Find comfort in that your sis
> was there
> to be with her.

I am, Ida. My sister told me that Rosemarie was alert till to the very
end, despite sedated against the pain from the cancer. My sister sund
to her and prayed with her, and then Rosemarie made a relaxing breath,
and she slipped out of her body, and the nurse said, the heart stopped
beating. Rosemarie seemed rather at peace at the end, and we were glad
that our sister could tell us what exactly happened.

> When one is disconnected both parties suffer so much
> but
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> perhaps
> take care of the problem.

I read that you posted that Ron has kidney problem too.

Ron, I sure wish you all the best, in case you should read this. My
kidneys are sort of hard since the psychs injected stuff, wonder how
your kidneys feel like.

Barbara Schwarz

 

> Ida Camburn
Tilman Hausherr - 25 Apr 2005 19:05 GMT
>I was very sorry to hear of your loss and also for your own kidney
>condition and hope that you can receive helpful treatment that will
>cure it.

If she'd come back to Germany, she would get all the medical treatment
needed for free (from taxpayer money). Since she doesn't want to come
back, she'll probably die a painful and lonely death - like so many of
the poor in the US.

Tilman

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Barbara Schwarz - 25 Apr 2005 23:02 GMT
> >I was very sorry to hear of your loss and also for your own kidney
> >condition and hope that you can receive helpful treatment that will
> >cure it.

Tilman Hausherr, if you would beg me to take all two of your kidneys, I
would not want them.

> If she'd come back to Germany, she would get all the medical treatment
> needed for free (from taxpayer money). Since she doesn't want to come
> back, she'll probably die a painful and lonely death - like so many of
> the poor in the US.

These "medical treatments" messed my kidneys up, and that is why I flew
from Germany in the first place. It was a nightmare, it was hell. I
rather die here than in Germany.

The German doctors did not detect Rosemarie's liver cancer either
before it was so late, and she had doctors and nurses coming to her all
the time. So, don't tell how good Germany is.

And I am not lonely. But I rather would die alone somewhere than having
German doctors all over me. Creepy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I suffered enough
over there.

Barbara Schwarz

> Tilman
>
> --
> Tilman Hausherr  [SP5.55]  Entheta * Enturbulation * Entertainment
> http://home.snafu.de/tilman/scientology_ger.html
Rick  Morris - 26 Apr 2005 03:25 GMT
Did Rosemarie have a baby?
Barbara Schwarz - 26 Apr 2005 16:27 GMT
Rick Morris wrote:
> Did Rosemarie have a baby?

Yes, Rosemarie's baby. Remember the movie? ;)

Seriously, yes, she had a baby, and I have all reason to believe that I
was exchanged with her real baby. Something must have been done to her
that she could not see that she had photos of two different children in
her photoalbum, and said it all would be me.

Her real baby had eyes twice as big as I. If I would be that child, I
would have had eye surgery to reduce my eyes to normal size. I am not
kidding, her baby had Gene Wilder kind of eyes, huge huge eyes, only
dark eyes.

Barbara Schwarz
Phil Scott - 03 May 2005 07:27 GMT
> > >I was very sorry to hear of your loss and also for your own kidney
> > >condition and hope that you can receive helpful treatment that will
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> from Germany in the first place. It was a nightmare, it was hell. I
> rather die here than in Germany.

Today you have to become your own doctor to a large
extent..its only your that can feel exactly whats going on
inside the doctors are guessing many times... I go to get
blood tests and their opinion then I look up the research
myself...I find in most cases the doctors were providing only
palative treatment, or slow acting prevention after it was
already too late for prevention... few are up on advanced ways
to eliminate a disease.  Thats not taught in medical school
and prevention costs the drug companies trillions of dollars
in lost sales.

so you have to study prevention and reversal yourself... your
situation is most likely reversible.

'Cellular medicine, kidneys' would be a good google 'web' tab
search for you to do...then read for a few weeks... raw juice
though should produce a near instant miracle..it does on most
cases. read some books on that.

Phil Scott

> The German doctors did not detect Rosemarie's liver cancer either
> before it was so late, and she had doctors and nurses coming to her all
> the time. So, don't tell how good Germany is.

> And I am not lonely. But I rather would die alone somewhere than having
> German doctors all over me. Creepy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I suffered enough
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> > Tilman Hausherr  [SP5.55]  Entheta * Enturbulation * Entertainment
> > http://home.snafu.de/tilman/scientology_ger.html
Barbara Schwarz - 25 Apr 2005 22:22 GMT
> I was very sorry to hear of your loss and also for your own kidney
> condition and hope that you can receive helpful treatment that will
> cure it.
>
> Roland

rmayf wrote:
> Barb,
>
> I'm sorry for your loss.

It is better for Rosemarie that she is released now. Besides her liver
cancer that was diagnosed so late (two days before dying) she had to
inhale sharp medicine and eat a handfull pills every day to just not
suffocate. Her lungs were full of muccus for the last 15 years. It was
hell for her.

> I hope that you're seeing a physician, (not a psych) about your
kidneys.

Read this, Roland.

Physicans are little psychs, and many are clueless. Rosemarie was seen
by several doctors and they all misted her liver cancer. I know you
guys don't want to believe it, but I think that in medicine (and water
and food) are germs and that they can be remote controlled activated.

If I go to the doctor, I just get more chemicals. If the SEGNPMSS gets
serious on that issue, I may die on kidney failure or kidney cancer.
When they stop activating the germs in my kidneys, I will be fine and
will stay alive for a long time to come. A regular doctor can't help
me. Law enforcement going after medical terrorists would be my rescue.

Even a kidney transplant may be a joke, because if the kidney is also
full with germs, I may just have the same problem that I have now just
with another kidney.

I know you don't believe me, but it is nevertheless the truth. Any
animals can be trained and so can germs. I heard it recently also in
the news. An university claimed that they can make fruit flies do
exactly what they want, and germs are just s little smaller, but same
easily to manipulate and run.

However, if I die, I come after the SEGNPMSS as bodyless thetan. I will
be come the worst poltergeist that they can imagine. :) I will teach
them respect. That is my promise.  

Barbara Schwarz
Phil Scott - 03 May 2005 07:29 GMT
> > I was very sorry to hear of your loss and also for your own kidney
> > condition and hope that you can receive helpful treatment that will
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> guys don't want to believe it, but I think that in medicine (and water
> and food) are germs and that they can be remote controlled activated.

     Pathogens in the body are  in fact remote control
activated by such things as stress or abuse... the immune
system is thus depressed... and the pathogens then have a
chance to advance.

  thats well known and published phenomena.

> If I go to the doctor, I just get more chemicals. If the SEGNPMSS gets
> serious on that issue, I may die on kidney failure or kidney cancer.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Barbara Schwarz
Mentally deranged Schwarz' imaginary husband Mark Rathbun deRothschild - 26 Apr 2005 04:55 GMT
It's a sad thing to lose someone to cancer, Barbara...it is even sadder
that you choose you use her death as just another platform to further
your agenda of hate and hostility to those you perceive to be your
enemies.

Give it a break!  Don't dishonor Rosemarie's memory with your
delusional crap.
Barbara Schwarz - 26 Apr 2005 17:53 GMT
Mentally deranged Schwarz' imaginary husband Mark Rathbun deRothschild
wrote:
> It's a sad thing to lose someone to cancer, Barbara...it is even sadder
> that you choose you use her death as just another platform to further
> your agenda of hate and hostility to those you perceive to be your
> enemies.

I did not. Where is the evidence? Provide the links.

> Give it a break!  Don't dishonor Rosemarie's memory with your
> delusional crap.

If Rosemarie would read what you post against me, she would post
against you, Garry.

I posted that Ida Camburn creeps me out and reminds me of Rosemarie.
Whatelse should I post after having read that she is pro-deprogramming
and pro psychiatry after I suffered through both? Ida also posted
unkind and untrue stuff about the state of my mind.

However, if Ida would be in danger, I would run faster than you
anti-religious extremists to get help for her to save her life. I
posted before that I want Ida to live a very very long life as an old
and tired SP is better than a young and not tired SP. If I would be
Ida's caretaker, she would be more than safe. And Ida knows it.

And the truth is also that Rosemarie was suppressive. I don't dishonor
her memory by posting the truth. However, I also have posted when she
did things right.

Barbara Schwarz
Phil Scott - 03 May 2005 07:59 GMT
> Mentally deranged Schwarz' imaginary husband Mark Rathbun deRothschild
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> her memory by posting the truth. However, I also have posted when she
> did things right.

 The level of your supposed insanity seems to be not so
deep...  you seem more than anything just completely pissed
off at the extensive abuse you got at the hands of vicious
idiots.

welcome to the world.     Good luck in getting over it and
getting your kidneys healthy... then go see a bunch of movies
and let this mess go for a while.

You could also call Mike Goldstien in Colorado that will speed
things up dramatically.   He might give you a free session on
the phone.

1 800 idenics   about your issues.  I would not be surprised
if that worked out well for you.  Mike is a good guy.

Being obsessed with jerks will screw anyone up.  You can still
cut their balls off though, but not obsessively... being upset
about it is damaging to you and only gives them more power.

Phil Scott

> Barbara Schwarz
Barbara Schwarz - 04 May 2005 02:37 GMT
>   The level of your supposed insanity seems to be not so
> deep...  you seem more than anything just completely pissed
> off at the extensive abuse you got at the hands of vicious
> idiots.

My supposed insanity is a black propaganda campaign. I was also right
with the remote controlled vermin. See article below.

> welcome to the world.     Good luck in getting over it and
> getting your kidneys healthy... then go see a bunch of movies
> and let this mess go for a while.

The movie "Love Story" will cure it. ;)

> You could also call Mike Goldstien in Colorado that will speed
> things up dramatically.   He might give you a free session on
> the phone.
>
> 1 800 idenics   about your issues.  I would not be surprised
> if that worked out well for you.  Mike is a good guy.

Who is Mike Goldstien?

> Being obsessed with jerks will screw anyone up.  You can still
> cut their balls off though, but not obsessively... being upset
> about it is damaging to you and only gives them more power.

I am lady, Phil, I do not cut anybody anything off.

L. Ron Hubbard said it originally that one can remote control the
smallest critters, and I said it after it was completely forgotten, and

now look below who else is saying it.

Problem only is that secret services work with remote controlled germs
since decades and that corrupt doctors use it against people to cause
them all kinds of diseases, including heart attack, cancer, stroke,
asthma and allergies and the other 500000 illnesses and deaths.

The violence, depressions, and overeating of people is created by
silent sounds in subconscious minds of people.

Barbara Schwarz

*Scientists Create Remote-Controlled Flies*

Sun Apr 10, 3:55 AM ET Health - AP

NEW HAVEN, Conn. - Yale University researchers say their study that
used
lasers to create remote-controlled fruit flies could lead to a better
understanding of overeating and violence in humans.

Using the lasers to stimulate specific brain cells, researchers say
they
were able to make the flies jump, walk, flap their wings and fly.

Even headless flies took flight when researchers stimulated the correct

neurons, according to the study, published in the April 7 issue of the
journal Cell.

Scientists say the study could ultimately help identify the cells
associated with psychiatric disorders, overeating and aggressiveness.
Biologists have long known that an electrical stimulus can trigger
muscle response, but this approach used focused beams of light to
stimulate neurons that would have been impossible to study using
electrodes.

Gero Miesenbock, associate professor of cell biology at Yale, said if
the process could be duplicated on mice, researchers might be able to
better understand the cellular activity that leads to certain behavior.

"Ultimately, that could be important to understanding human psychiatric
disorders," Miesenbock said. "That's really futuristic stuff."
Phil Scott - 04 May 2005 08:38 GMT
> >   The level of your supposed insanity seems to be not so
> > deep...  you seem more than anything just completely pissed
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> My supposed insanity is a black propaganda campaign. I was also right
> with the remote controlled vermin. See article below.

  Exactly...   most people dont read well, or do research.

> > welcome to the world.     Good luck in getting over it and
> > getting your kidneys healthy... then go see a bunch of movies
> > and let this mess go for a while.
>
> The movie "Love Story" will cure it. ;)

     Movies help.. they take a person out of a fixed mess and
provide a diversion and sometimes a wider view.  ymmv.  For
some people movies are too upsetting.

> > You could also call Mike Goldstien in Colorado that will speed
> > things up dramatically.   He might give you a free session on
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Who is Mike Goldstien?

 Phatso's ex top financial chief..left in the mid 80's and
with the help of John galusha, Hubbard top tech developer in
the 50's  developed  idenics... it works like greased
lightning... 15 to 20 hours usually. It handles ONLY what you
personally consider unwanted conditions though...and you call
all the shots in a session..when you say a session is over
..its over etc.

> > Being obsessed with jerks will screw anyone up.  You can still
> > cut their balls off though, but not obsessively... being upset
> > about it is damaging to you and only gives them more power.

> I am lady, Phil, I do not cut anybody anything off.

 :)   self restraint is a good thing.. but there are times
not be so restrained.  I was using the example figuratively of
course.

> L. Ron Hubbard said it originally that one can remote control the
> smallest critters, and I said it after it was completely forgotten, and
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> them all kinds of diseases, including heart attack, cancer, stroke,
> asthma and allergies and the other 500000 illnesses and deaths.

What you are saying sounds extreme and ill founded...unless
one has studied the work of Dr Delgado.. the shrink working on
these and other issues in the 40's-60's with the US CIA etc...
those guys were very advanced and did extensive research in
the areas you mention.

Current military microbiology research is also on that path...
and many of these rersearchers end up dead...to secure their
discovery.  There are credible people writing about that.  I
gave a link or two earlier.

> The violence, depressions, and overeating of people is created by
> silent sounds in subconscious minds of people.

There are many factors not just the ill intended from what you
choose to call the ...MSS ... the average person is probably
affected 1,000 percent more by deliberate brain wash
strategies employed on television...and the bogus teaching in
our schools.   There are books on that.. good key words to
search beyond that would be 'NLP, hypnotism, destructive
control'

Phil Scott

> Barbara Schwarz
>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> "Ultimately, that could be important to understanding human psychiatric
> disorders," Miesenbock said. "That's really futuristic stuff."
 
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