From today's Wall Street Journal: " Pfizer said it will sell Sudafed with no
pseudoephedrine, used to cook methamphetamine. Druggists often keep it
behind the counter for that reason."
I think this is should be illegal. The NEW "Sudafed" will be no more be
Sudafed than NEW Coke was Coca-Cola. Since it will be OTC I suppose Pfizer
will not have to run studies to prove it is as effected as the original
Sudafed.
getsumonya - 24 Dec 2004 16:48 GMT
> From today's Wall Street Journal: " Pfizer said it will sell Sudafed with
> no
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> will not have to run studies to prove it is as effected as the original
> Sudafed.
Thats the Brand Name Shell game
like Lotrimin - could be clotrimazole, butenafine or even miconazole - hafta
look close at the package.
And the rx Guaifed - it doesn't even have any "fed" in it anymore but they
kept the brand name - most prescribers of it still think it has
pseudoephedrine in it.
They do that with lots of cough and congestion meds every season - just swap
a bunch of ingredients around but keep the same old name.
Brad
HankG - 24 Dec 2004 22:19 GMT
> From today's Wall Street Journal: " Pfizer said it will sell Sudafed with no
> pseudoephedrine, used to cook methamphetamine. Druggists often keep it
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> will not have to run studies to prove it is as effected as the original
> Sudafed.
The companies have been doing this for decades, i.e., using an established
brand name to 'co-brand' a myriad of new products. The first example that I
remember is/was an old product, 4-Way cold tablets. The ads stated that the
product fought colds four ways. They then proceeded to introduce other
'4-Way' products. I can't remember what the products were, but the
ingredients were totally different. The assumption was that they would work
in four different ways.
If Pfizer's intent is to replace the original product, the label should
clearly state MODIFIED FORMULA. Those whores!
HankG
nospam@pacbell.net - 25 Dec 2004 00:21 GMT
http://www.oregonlive.com/search/index.ssf?/base/front_page/1103806620248030.xml
?oregonian?fpfp
The company will continue selling the original Sudafed throughout the
country after Sudafed PE is introduced in late January, according to
spokesman Jay Kosminsky. Prices will be comparable for the two products.
The change only affects Sudafed products containing pseudoephedrine by
itself. Other products in the Sudafed line such as Sudafed Cold and Flu,
which combine pseudoephedrine with other ingredients, will be completely
converted to phenylephrine later in 2005.
"This is to help consumers, regardless of what choices states make,"
Kosminsky said.
There are no head-to-head studies to compare the effectiveness of
phenylephrine with pseudoephedrine, he said, and some people will still
prefer the original in states without pseudoephedrine restrictions.
>From today's Wall Street Journal: " Pfizer said it will sell Sudafed with no
>pseudoephedrine, used to cook methamphetamine. Druggists often keep it
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>will not have to run studies to prove it is as effected as the original
>Sudafed.
Hank - 26 Dec 2004 15:41 GMT
Are there any forms of pseudoephedrine now on the market which are
as effective a the traditional little red tablet but are formulated so that they
CANNOT be used for meth production? If so, that would be the product
I would buy. Can anyone help me out on this?
Hank
> From today's Wall Street Journal: " Pfizer said it will sell Sudafed with no
> pseudoephedrine, used to cook methamphetamine. Druggists often keep it
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> will not have to run studies to prove it is as effected as the original
> Sudafed.
Gregory Poon - 28 Dec 2004 04:53 GMT
The problem is that pseudoephedrine itself is a potential precursor to
controlled substances, and has nothing to do with the formulation. If
you're looking for a nasal decongestant, have you tried a spray?
> Are there any forms of pseudoephedrine now on the market which are
> as effective a the traditional little red tablet but are formulated so that they
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> > will not have to run studies to prove it is as effected as the original
> > Sudafed.
Patrick - 28 Dec 2004 16:08 GMT
People who wish to manufacture illicet substances will
always find ways to do so. With Soma now being
scheduled and with the removal of good ole everyday
pseudoephidrine, what is going to be next?
Is the DEA now going take good pharmacy oversite
away from the pharmacists and doctors and make sure
that no one can receive chemotherapeutics without a
consult from a DEA agent??
--
Patrick H. Mason M.S. OHST, EMT-I
> The problem is that pseudoephedrine itself is a potential precursor to
> controlled substances, and has nothing to do with the formulation. If
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> > > will not have to run studies to prove it is as effected as the original
> > > Sudafed.
Hank - 28 Dec 2004 16:31 GMT
Many years ago I had a rhinoplasty for a severely deviated septum.
Since then there has never been a day--not even one during a bad
head cold that I can not breath perfectly through both nostrils.
(That surgery was the smartest move I ever made!) I use
pseudoephedrine ONLY when I get sinus headaches or with
amoxicillin for sinus infections--which I seem to be rather prone to.
In both cases the pseudoephedrine works wonders. I would rather
use nothing at all over a nasal spray. Without fail, every nasal spray
I've ever used has caused some degree of rebound congestion. Before
I had the rhinoplasty (and also, as it happens, before I knew about
rebound congestion) I used nasal sprays and got hooked on them.
Afrin was my drug of choice. I used that stuff for three months, finally
woke up to the fact that I had a "problem," and went to an otolaryngologist (sp?).
He wisely insisted that I stop the Afrin (and ALL nasal sprays) and gave
me one of these packs of a cortisone-type drug which starts you off at a large
dose with the dose getting smaller each day. That, and stopping the Afrin,
solved the rebound congestion problem. When I returned in a month for him
to see how my innards looked and if my "problem" had resolved recommended
surgery to correct the "plumbing" problem. I opted to have the surgery done
by a plastic surgeon thinking that perhaps he could solve the deviated septum
problem and hopefully reduce the size of my admittedly rather big beak.
TOTAL success on both counts!
My current refusal to use spray-type decongestants may be irrational but there is
simply NO way I am EVER going to go near one of those sprays again
Exactly what is this new drug or new formulation that is going to replace pseudoephedrine?
Will it be as effective?
Hank
> The problem is that pseudoephedrine itself is a potential precursor to
> controlled substances, and has nothing to do with the formulation. If
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>> > will not have to run studies to prove it is as effected as the original
>> > Sudafed.