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omgomgomg@gmail.com - 22 Dec 2004 19:40 GMT
i see lots of topics on pre-pharmacy but where are the pharmacy
students hiding? where to you go to school? do you like it? what is
your GPA? what kind of pharmacist do you want to be?
Kara - 23 Dec 2004 13:40 GMT
I am a nursing student, but my teachers are always trying to get me to
go into Pharmacy. But I want to get my masters and teach Bioethics.

GPA is 95--115% (magna cum laude) It just depends. Eventually my brain
will explode.
fesheva@yahoo.com - 26 Dec 2004 20:55 GMT
I am a pre-pharmacy student and I'm looking for a group of sorts as
well. I know it's going to be tough and I need support! LOL
If you find a group, let me know and I'll be happy to join.

> i see lots of topics on pre-pharmacy but where are the pharmacy
> students hiding? where to you go to school? do you like it? what is
> your GPA? what kind of pharmacist do you want to be?
Paul Trusten - 01 Jan 2005 17:56 GMT
Thank you, all, for starting this important thread on pharmacy students.

I have been a practicing pharmacist since 1976: twelve years in community
practice and the rest (sinc 1993) in hospital practice. My one observation
about pharmacy over the years is that while it has held out the promise of
clinical practice satisfaction, and has just now (with the arrival of the
universal Pharm.D. degree) institutionalized the tools for this kind of
practice, current reality is far behind the promise. From what I can see,
community pharmacy is still struggling to achieve strong clinical
involvement, and other settings still stick the pharmacist's nose into
handwritten medication orders.  Perhaps now, with the OBRA counseling
requirements, the concept of pharmaceutical care,  the federal recognition
of pharmacists as healthcare providers,the Medicare law requiring medication
managers,  and the arrival of registered pharmacy technicians, chain
management will realize that they have to give third-party and customer
relations problems to a few lead technicians, and let the pharmacist do
clinical work almost exclusively. Also, it is imperative that handwritten
prescriptions become a thing of the past.

> I am a pre-pharmacy student and I'm looking for a group of sorts as
> well. I know it's going to be tough and I need support! LOL
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> > students hiding? where to you go to school? do you like it? what is
> > your GPA? what kind of pharmacist do you want to be?
fesheva@yahoo.com - 15 Jan 2005 00:48 GMT
Paul said:
I have been a practicing pharmacist since 1976: twelve years in
community
practice and the rest (sinc 1993) in hospital practice.
Compared to retail and hospital, which do you prefer and why?
hotguy - 17 Jan 2005 03:47 GMT
15 mos ago, I made the switch to ownership.  I make crap right now
compared to the salaries of employees.  But I love it.  I will be ahead
in the long run financially, and spiritually, because I control my
destiny, and am not under the whim of some corporate umbrella...and I
love it!!

Its quite a financial and time commitment, but well worth it!  I put
all that money I made workin for someone else into being my own
boss....

DGM

> Paul said:
> I have been a practicing pharmacist since 1976: twelve years in
> community
> practice and the rest (sinc 1993) in hospital practice.
> Compared to retail and hospital, which do you prefer and why?
rx2bqt - 27 Dec 2004 04:00 GMT
I am a student Shenandoah University's Pharmacy School in Virginia.  I
will graduate this May.  I do like pharmacy school although I am glad
it is almost over :-)  I am planning to start off my career in
community pharmacy and have already accepted a postition with CVS.
warenda@email.com - 27 Dec 2004 17:30 GMT
Why would anyone want to work for CVS. You are just a tool for them to force
you to be a robot. Don;t think you will be able to counsel any patients or
have any physician respect your opionions.  Don't be swayed by the $. That
gets old fast. Just ask grads from a few years ago who work for CVs. Most
hate it.
Why did you go to school for 6 years?
Make a difference in our profession. You can;t do that at CVS
jp rph
rx2bqt - 27 Dec 2004 22:08 GMT
I am working for CVS to pay off the $120,000 of debt that I have
accumulated during my 6 years of school.  I went to college so that I
could learn about something that interests me and so that I could make
a better life for myself.  Not everyone is lucky enough to not have to
worry about money especially when they didn't grow up with it.  I
unfortunately did not have parents who could help out with paying for
college.  I have a feeling that you never had to worry about money.

It is up to the pharmacist to counsel patients, not the company.  A
good pharmacist will make time to counsel, no matter who they work for.
Pharmacists who care about their patients and work for CVS have put
together blood pressure, diabetes, and other health screenings for
their patients.  A high volume retail store is an opportunity to reach
a large multitude of patients.

Just because I work for CVS for a few years to pay off some bills, does
not mean that I am indebted to them for the rest of my life.  I am
young and I have plenty of time to take advantage of all of the
opportunities that are out there for me.
warenda@email.com - 27 Dec 2004 22:44 GMT
good luck in fantasy town
rx2bqt - 28 Dec 2004 03:08 GMT
more fun than you are having on cynical lane
Kara - 01 Jan 2005 15:50 GMT
Bob G. - 28 Dec 2004 15:53 GMT
>Why would anyone want to work for CVS. You are just a tool for them to force
>you to be a robot. Don;t think you will be able to counsel any patients or
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Make a difference in our profession. You can;t do that at CVS
>jp rph

====================
Come on...  

I am now retired but spend most of my career in Retail Management with
a chain...both in store and corporate.....(Food./Drug combo)  

I do not have a high regard for CVS.... .

BUT I do not think you have any understanding of  how or why Retail
Pharmacy exists.....

Bob Griffiths
     BTW... I think Money is not a good reason to take a job...
     but I also think that more money is better then less....
warenda@email.com - 30 Dec 2004 18:03 GMT
i have practived community (i don;t call it retail) for over 30 years and am
one of the most respected pharmacists in my state. Past pres of state
association, frequent speaker on the possibilities of community pharmacy,
pharmacy student preceptor for 25 years, adjunct faculty appointment to one
of the premier pharmacy schools in the us
so i do know and the reason i don;t think it is all about the money is
because i continually hear from other pharmacists how they hate their jop.
It just so happens that my staff love their work because they get to do
diabetes education, smoking cessation, blood pressures, cholesterols
screenings, etc. as part of their job description and it actually happens
jp rph
fesheva@yahoo.com - 01 Jan 2005 01:22 GMT
If there is such a high demand for pharmacists, why are there so few
programs available to help financially, for someone willing to enter
the feild?

I hear so many people talk about having high debt upon graduation. Is
promising to work for a company the only way to fund an education these
days? Not that there's anything wrong with that. At least you're
guaranteed a job when you graduate. Unlike some fields who have to get
interim jobs.

As for working just for the money, I thought that's what most people
do. LOL. Having a job you like is a perk to me unfortuantely. When you
do what you like, that's a hobby. Get paid for it, it becomes a job.
warenda@email.com - 02 Jan 2005 15:44 GMT
My point was not that money is not important...I have been fighting for
years to get pharmacists paid for their profesional services.  the point is
there is little difference is take home pay and amazing take home
satisfaction when working at a job for 90K when you are unhappy and working
for 80K at a place you are happy with.  Pharmacists working in any other
area besides community know this and have made that choice.  I just hate it
that the chains are enticing young pharmacists with $ and cars and then
destroying our professional that I love so much.
jp rph
fesheva@yahoo.com - 15 Jan 2005 00:45 GMT
I see what you're saying JP. And thank you for all the hard work you
have done for the field. You come across as someone very passionate
about what you believe in and I respect that.

I guess it just depends on the person. Some people don't mind bringing
home more money from a place they are unhappy with because that's all
they see it as - a job. But yes, it does make it more difficult for
those who are there because of the love.
pleasenote_2@hotmail.com - 15 Jan 2005 16:08 GMT
How safe would it be to obtain Omeprazole from India, rather than
taking Prilosec OTC?

Thanks
RUSLAN - 25 Jan 2005 11:57 GMT
I'm Pharmacy student in Athens, Greece.

Feel free to make contact with me, I'd love to share my knowledge with
other students of pharmacy or related sciences.
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