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Jillian Rink - 02 Dec 2004 02:37 GMT
Hi there, I am a second year pharmacy student and thought I work hard,
I find it very difficult. people keep telling me that grades don't
matter and the only thing that matters is that you pass. well, if that
were the case why have grades at all? don't they have to matter at
least somewhat?

My cumulative GPA is about 3.15, would you consider that average or
below average? I had a 3.8 coming into pharmacy school so it's
difficult to see my GPA go down so much!

Cheers,
Jillian
Pharm D II
Gregory Poon - 02 Dec 2004 16:53 GMT
It all depends on what you want to do after you graduate (assuming you pass
of course).  If you just want to practice in the community, then no, your
employer will not care what you got on Med Chem as long as you get your
license.  If you want to do a hospital residency, then it kind of matters,
because there usually is some competition.  If you want to do a Pharm.D.
(assuming your current program isn't direct entry), then again grades are
taken into consideration.  If you want to do graduate studies, then it
matters a great deal.

But honestly, a GPA of 3.15 is not terrible.  What do you want to do?

> Hi there, I am a second year pharmacy student and thought I work hard,
> I find it very difficult. people keep telling me that grades don't
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> Jillian
> Pharm D II
Jillian Rink - 02 Dec 2004 23:01 GMT
first off, thanks for the well thought out replies. I struggle quite a
bit in pharmacy school and since this is my second year it's really
difficult. I just feel like in order to get a 3.9 you have to
completely devote yourself to studying and I just don't feel like i
want to spend 3 years being obsessed with studying.

I am not sure what I want to do. I was thinking before about doing a
residency but I have heard that clinical pharmacy (what I wanted to do
before) is very demanding and I'm not sure I'm up for it.

Possibly working in a hospital or community pharmacy but I want to
leave the option of a residency open.
P T - 03 Dec 2004 02:03 GMT
rxempress@mmchsi.com (rxempress)  said:

>...I can now say with all my worldly
>experience that grades mean nothing...

I disagree.

The most important thing to get out of pharmacy school is a license.
The next most important thing, since it is required to get a license, is
a degree.
The next most important thing, since it is required to get a degree, is
grades.
rxempress - 03 Dec 2004 13:15 GMT
which is why I said to maintain a GPA comfortably above the minimum required
for graduation
rxempress - 02 Dec 2004 17:05 GMT
Hi.  I was a lot like you.  I graduated in 1978.  I went into pharmacy
school with a 4.0 and watched it dissipate to a 3.39.  I worked my butt off
but that was because I was thinking about going to grad school.  ( I
eventually went 10 years later ).

I can now say with all my worldly experience that grades mean nothing and it
is not worth killing yourself over them.  The important thing is to learn as
much as you can.

Tests just show that you know how to take a test ... not that you have
learned anything.  I remember one professor who used to ramble about all
sorts of weird things.  The way to study for his exams was to highlight
everything important in your notes and study everything that WASN'T
highlighted.  Worked every time.

Just stay a comfortable distance from the GPA required for graduation and
you'll do just fine.

Also please do not turn into a machine.  Get some life experience.  Your
patients don't care about your GPA.  They care about your ability to
communicate so that they can understand you, problem solve (especially
insurance issues) . interact as a caring health professional and as a friend
(just like beauticians and bartenders).
rastapasta - 03 Dec 2004 07:54 GMT
> Hi.  I was a lot like you.  I graduated in 1978.  I went into pharmacy
> school with a 4.0 and watched it dissipate to a 3.39.  I worked my butt
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> friend
> (just like beauticians and bartenders).

Well said!!!!1
rastapasta - 03 Dec 2004 07:56 GMT
> Hi.  I was a lot like you.  I graduated in 1978.  I went into pharmacy
> school with a 4.0 and watched it dissipate to a 3.39.  I worked my butt
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> friend
> (just like beauticians and bartenders).

But, you need at least a high 3 GPA to get in any major school around here,
it seems.
P T - 03 Dec 2004 11:31 GMT
"rxempress" wrote
>Tests just show that you know
>how to take a test ...

I was just wondering
how we can test this statement?
:-D
rxempress - 03 Dec 2004 13:20 GMT
I  suppose we can come up with a rating system for a good pharmacist and
then compare the correlation between grades and a "good" pharmacist rating.
Of course that is assuming that we know what a "good pharmacist" is
Bob G. - 03 Dec 2004 14:20 GMT
>Hi.  I was a lot like you.  I graduated in 1978.  I went into pharmacy
>school with a 4.0 and watched it dissipate to a 3.39.  I worked my butt off
>but that was because I was thinking about going to grad school.  ( I
>eventually went 10 years later ).

+++++++++++++++++ I worked at least 30 hours a week while I was in
Pharmacy School, even had to stay completely out of school for a year
because of lack of funds... and  my grades suffered ...I graduated
with something like a 2.000000000  ...  

>I can now say with all my worldly experience that grades mean nothing and it
>is not worth killing yourself over them.  The important thing is to learn as
>much as you can.

+++++++++++++++ I am now retired and spent most of my career in Retail
and most of that career in management .. And over the years I  can not
remember a single years where I took a Pharmacists GPA into account
in my evaluation of his or her work...   And you can add what
University they graduated from to that list... neither were ever an
issue...

>Tests just show that you know how to take a test .
+++++++++++++++       (..snip snip snip)

>Just stay a comfortable distance from the GPA required for graduation and
>you'll do just fine.

++++++++++++++++ Just make damn sure you hit the minimum... (lol)
 
       
>Also please do not turn into a machine.  Get some life experience.  Your
>patients don't care about your GPA.

++++++++++++++++ I agree 100 percent and to be honest your tech, your
cashier, your boss, and your banker do dot care either...

>communicate so that they can understand you, problem solve (especially
>insurance issues) . interact as a caring health professional and as a friend
>(just like beauticians and bartenders).

++++++++++++++    People skills .... If you have them (and a lot of
Pharmacists really do not) you can advance especially in a Retail
environment ...combine those "people skills" with a sound
understanding of Business and you are almost assured of a very
rewarding career...both professionally and economically...

Bob Griffiths
Sam - 08 Dec 2004 07:27 GMT
Unless you wanna do postgrad studies, screw grades. At the end, all an
employer will look at is your ability to maintain a licence.

Sam
PharmD IV

> Hi there, I am a second year pharmacy student and thought I work hard,
> I find it very difficult. people keep telling me that grades don't
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> Jillian
> Pharm D II
 
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