Has anyone had experience of this medication for the treatment of
arthritis.My sister is going on it for her condition,and it will be by
injection 2x week the surprising thing is that it cost ?8000 year! its a
good job we have the national health service, in spite of its faults
.john.m
Timbertea - 23 Oct 2004 21:41 GMT
> Has anyone had experience of this medication for the treatment of
> arthritis.My sister is going on it for her condition,and it will be by
> injection 2x week the surprising thing is that it cost £8000 year! its a
> good job we have the national health service, in spite of its faults
> .john.m
While I don't have personal experience with Enbrel, there is a 5 year +
study out there for Enbrel + Methotrexate, and the resuls are quite
positive for it. The ones given Enbrel + Methotrexate had less damage,
were felling better, and in some cases the damage was even partially
reversed. If she can tolerate it, it's one of the best medications for
the rheumatoid arthritis available.
It's a very different set of results than with just Methotrexate alone
where you see a steady decline over the same period.
Pumbaa - 23 Oct 2004 22:33 GMT
Probably very few people pay directly for this drug even in the USA. It is
paid by insurance companies like Blue Cross Blue Shield or else by the
Federal government under the Medicaid or Medicare programs. Others of us
here would be out of luck or have to take some other medication. Was there
any special paperwork to get your national health service to OK the use of
this medication? 8000 pounds a year is pretty cheap compared to what some
chemotherapy or HIV drugs can cost in America.
> Has anyone had experience of this medication for the treatment of
> arthritis.My sister is going on it for her condition,and it will be by
> injection 2x week the surprising thing is that it cost ?8000 year! its a
> good job we have the national health service, in spite of its faults
> .john.m
mrmalins - 24 Oct 2004 08:21 GMT
> Probably very few people pay directly for this drug even in the USA. It is
> paid by insurance companies like Blue Cross Blue Shield or else by the
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>area. A nurse from the local practice will come round to show her how
>to inject it 2x week and to keep it in the fridge . john.m
Bob G - 25 Oct 2004 01:30 GMT
>Probably very few people pay directly for this drug even in the USA. It is
>paid by insurance companies like Blue Cross Blue Shield or else by the
>Federal government under the Medicaid or Medicare programs. Others of us
>here would be out of luck or have to take some other medication.
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Have to agree..."Cash Customers" are few and far between..or non
exixtant ... Even most of "my" customers with a percentage Copay do
without....
That said..... there are plenty of drugs that are priced out of reach
even with Insurance...
Bob Griffiths
Lee Thompson-Herbert - 26 Oct 2004 10:30 GMT
>Has anyone had experience of this medication for the treatment of
>arthritis.My sister is going on it for her condition,and it will be by
>injection 2x week the surprising thing is that it cost ?8000 year! its a
>good job we have the national health service, in spite of its faults
I took Enbrel for a year and half for rheumatoid arthritis. I'd already
failed MTX and Arava, so my case could be considered moderately severe.
Up until the last six months, it worked great. Then the drug started to
fade, which happens to some people. Normally at that point, MTX or Arava
would be added back into the mix, but I can't take either. I've just been
switched to Humira (adalimumab), probably on a once-a-week schedule as
it looks like the injections have been lasting about 10 days for me instead
of the full 14 days.
The biggest pain with Enbrel is preparing it for injection. It has to be
mixed on the spot and absolutely _cannot_ be shaken as that will cause
the antibodies to lyse. The drug powder has to be gently swirled to
dissolve it (both the instruction booklet and the video strongly stress this).
The injection itself is just a subcutaneous injection. You just have to
make sure you don't hit a blood vessel. It's really no big deal at all.
The drug must be kept cold, but absolutely cannot be frozen. That will
ruin it. I suggest you get a thermometer for your refrigerator if there
isn't a digital one built into yours already.
Most of the patients who take monoclonal antibody drugs have found it's best
to buy a small refrigerator that's dedicated for their medication. It's
easier to control the temperature because it won't be opened and closed
as often. Here in the US, a small compact fridge can cost as little as
$100 for a good one that will hold a steady temperature. It seemed worth
it to me for a drug that costs US$1100 a month, especially since I was
storing 3 months supply at a time in there. The Humira obviously takes
up a lot less space, as there are half as many injections given, but the
small fridge is still a good idea.

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