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Neurontin + stimulant = speed?

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Jabberwocky Dirge - 20 Oct 2004 10:14 GMT
I feel compelled to post this effect and see if it's ever been
documented or experienced.

Tonight after I took Neurontin & Klonopin, it didn't calm me down, just
made me depressed. This often happens if I just take relaxants. So then
I added Tramadol a little later to boost me...and for the past few hours
(maybe more) my mind has been *so* active! I've just been manically
downloading music, listening to music, and posting to ngs and writing
emails, just typing away at whatever comes to my mind.

Once, in the past, after taking Neurontin, I drank come coffee and got
into a super stimulatory state.

In the past, once, I took Soma to relax me. After making me just
depressed, I drank a Red Bull-like energy drink, and then got this
incredible unexpected buzz.

But now it's back to Neurontin. I'm not quite as energetic as before but
I still don't feel like going to sleep, and I might make some coffee soon.

Is there any documentation of mixing Neurontin with a stimulant? Because
for me I reach this weird state where my mind gets hyperactive but
physically I'm relatively calm, don't feel tension or much agitation.
Maybe I'd like to go speeding down a freeway at 100 MPH blasting Ministry.

Physically I'm dried out and need to drink a lot, and earlier I was
constantly chewing on dried apricots. It's like some weird sub-speed
effect. But it only works with crossing muscle relaxants with stimulants.

Come to think of it, in the past when I was on Neurontin and started
taking Wellbutrin, that immediately had a stimulating effect.

See, whenever I took Soma or Neurontin alone, it made me depressed, not
relaxed. If I just drink those energy drinks or take stimulants, they
work a little while but zap out easily. But whenever this mixture has
occured (never pre-planned, I just take the stimulants to get me out of
the relaxant depression), for a while it's this prolonged mental
stimulation. And I like it, for the most part. I'm wondering if I should
mix Neurontin with stimulants on a more regular basis, intentionally.
During the daytime when I should actually be doing things.

To make it clear: I am a unipolar chronic depressive with strong social
anxiety, with bothersome somatic pains. I'm not bipolar, so the
stimulation has nothing to do with that.

Any insight would be appreciated.
Squiggles - 20 Oct 2004 16:37 GMT
> I feel compelled to post this effect and see if it's ever been
> documented or experienced.
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> emails, just typing away at whatever comes to my mind.
> soon.

.............

Jabberwocky,

I don't know much about these drugs; I know that Gabba drugs of
which Neurontin may be one, will potentiate anyone in its class.

I guess you have checked this?

http://www.drugs.com/drug_interactions.html

for interactions;

Squiggles
Carya Amara - 20 Oct 2004 17:19 GMT
Squiggles expressed precisely :

> Jabberwocky,
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>
> Squiggles

hmm. Rather unscientific - not only are you limited to using only the
American brand name, and not the chemical name (which is next to
useless in many cases, take fore example a psychiatrist from the UK)
but a computer cannot check for drug reactions.

(When i finally managed to find them) I did a search for interactions
between Lamictal and Topamax. There /are/ actually minor, but
significant and known reactions. The search turned up 'no known drug
reactions'.

Could be potentially dangerous for someone who is extremely
med-sensetive.

Then again, if you want to make coctails of speed or ecstasy (which
this seems more like), go ahead and fry your brain cells a little.

-Carya

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Squiggles - 20 Oct 2004 17:28 GMT
> Squiggles expressed precisely :
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> -Carya

Well i'm glad you found something; i was not competing; nobody was
replying and i searched for a drug checker for this person, in case
he/she had not.

Squiggles
 
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