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How carbs drive fat into fat tissue (Gary Taubes lecture)

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Taka - 03 Mar 2008 13:29 GMT
Here is an interesting lecture by Gary Taubes worth watching:

http://webcast.berkeley.edu/event_details.php?webcastid=21216

An interesting point he makes is that only sugar (both glucose and
fructose) can be converted into the "alpha glycerol phosphate" which
is essential for any fatty acid storage.  Also he says that this fat
storage is so powerful that even expecting mothers consuming high
carbs are holding on their fat stores to such an extent that their
children are born skinny.

Now I can imagine what happens when we consume carbs together with
PUFAs - the PUFAs go right to the storage !!!  Imagine that your
adipose tissue releases these unstable fatty acids when you are under
some stress or suffering from disease like cancer ...  It would be
considerably less dangerous to consume only saturated fat with
carbohydrates and leave the "EFAs" for the low carb meals.  Then you
would have only inert safe molecules in the "gasoline tank".

Taka
ironjustice - 04 Mar 2008 22:14 GMT
On Mar 3, 5:29 am, Taka <taka0...@gmail.com> wrote:Now I can imagine
what happens when we consume carbs together with PUFA <<

http://tinyurl.com/239o6b
"Plant-derived PUFAs require desaturation to form EPA and DHA"

Now since PUFAs are found in plants .. and carbohydrates are ALSO
found in plants .. what you are in effect .. saying IS .. "I wonder
what happens when someone eats a piece of .. fruit."

I can tell you ..

He will become .. healthier for .. it ..

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> Here is an interesting lecture by Gary Taubes worth watching:
>
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>
> Taka
Taka - 08 Mar 2008 09:40 GMT
Some short videos related to the topic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8WA5wcaHp4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbFQc2kxm9c&feature=related
Ron Peterson - 08 Mar 2008 20:22 GMT
> http://tinyurl.com/239o6b
> "Plant-derived PUFAs require desaturation to form EPA and DHA"

The article fails to mention that soybean oil and canola oil also
contain omega 3 fatty acids.

> Now since PUFAs are found in plants .. and carbohydrates are ALSO
> found in plants .. what you are in effect .. saying IS .. "I wonder
> what happens when someone eats a piece of .. fruit."

Fruit normally is low in PUFAs, so what is in fruit (and vegetables)
that is so healthful?

--
  Ron
allr1@webtv.net - 08 Mar 2008 21:30 GMT
ron@shell.core.com (Ron Peterson) wrote:

" Fruit normally is low in PUFAs, so what is in fruit (and vegetables)
that is so healthful? "

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It's an ASSumption that fruit and vegatables
ARE healthful.
Taka - 09 Mar 2008 11:41 GMT
On Mar 9, 6:30 am, al...@webtv.net wrote:

> " Fruit normally is low in PUFAs, so what is in fruit (and vegetables)
> that is so healthful? "
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> It's an ASSumption that fruit and vegatables
> ARE healthful.

Placebo effect is quite strong but there are still more vitamins,
minerals and antioxidants in them than in the refined foods like
grains and oils.  But if the body is built more resistant to oxidative
damage and without the arachidonic acid which is a hair-trigger for
most inflammatory maladies there is no need for any external
antioxidants.

Taka
allr1@webtv.net - 12 Mar 2008 15:02 GMT
" Placebo effect is quite strong but there are still more vitamins,
minerals and antioxidants in them than in the refined foods like grains
and oils. But if the body is built more resistant to oxidative damage
and without the arachidonic acid which is a hair-trigger for most
inflammatory maladies there is no need for any external antioxidants. "

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Antioxidants, which were heralded as a
'good thing', have recently been shown to
not be as beneficial as previously thought.

And, if one is in a very alkaline state, most
fruits and vegetables will exacerbate that
state.

IMO, paying attention to ones pH balance
is more important than focusing on the
minutiae of micro-nutrients, especially if
the digestive tract is the main supplier
of nutrients, from food's fermentation.
ironjustice - 19 Mar 2008 02:01 GMT
On Mar 8, 1:22 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core.com>
wrote:Fruitnormally is low in PUFAs, so what is infruit(and
vegetables) that is so healthful? <<

It seems those iron chelating properties found in sulforaphane and
dibenxoylmethane may have something to do with it.

Cancer Research 67, 9937-9944, October 15, 2007. doi:
10.1158/0008-5472.CAN-07-1112
(c) 2007 American Association for Cancer Research

Experimental Therapeutics, Molecular Targets, and Chemical Biology

Chemoprevention of Familial Adenomatous Polyposis by Natural Dietary
Compounds Sulforaphane and Dibenzoylmethane Alone and in Combination
in ApcMin/+ Mouse
Guoxiang Shen1,2, Tin Oo Khor1,2, Rong Hu1,2, Siwang Yu1,2, Sujit
Nair1,2, Chi-Tang Ho1,4, Bandaru S. Reddy1,3, Mou-Tuan Huang3, Harold
L. Newmark1,3 and Ah-Ng Tony Kong1,2
1 Center for Cancer Prevention Research, 2 Department of
Pharmaceutics, Ernest Mario School of Pharmacy, and 3 Susan Lehman
Cullman Laboratory for Cancer Research, Ernest Mario School of
Pharmacy, Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, Piscataway, New
Jersey and 4 Department of Food Science, Rutgers, The State University
of New Jersey, New Brunswick, New Jersey

Requests for reprints: Ah-Ng Tony Kong, Department of Pharmaceutics,
Ernest Mario School of Pharmacy, Rutgers, The State University of New
Jersey, 160 Frelinghuysen Road, Piscataway, NJ 08854. Phone:
732-445-3831, ext. 228; Fax: 732-445-3134; E-mail:
KongT@rci.rutgers.edu.

Cancer chemopreventive agent sulforaphane (SFN) and dibenzoylmethane
(DBM) showed antitumorigenesis effects in several rodent
carcinogenesis models.
In this study, we investigated the cancer chemopreventive effects and
the underlying molecular mechanisms of dietary administration of SFN
and DBM alone or in combination in the ApcMin/+ mice model.
Male ApcMin/+ mice (12 per group) at age of 5 weeks were given control
AIN-76A diet, diets containing 600 ppm SFN and 1.0% DBM, or a
combination of 300 ppm SFN and 0.5% DBM for 10 weeks.
Mice were then sacrificed, and tumor numbers and size were examined.
Microarray analysis, Western blotting, ELISA, and immunohistochemical
staining were done to investigate the underlying molecular mechanisms
of cancer chemopreventive effects of SFN and DBM.
Dietary administrations of SFN and DBM alone or in combination
significantly inhibited the development of intestinal adenomas by 48%
(P = 0.002), 50% (P = 0.001), and 57% (P < 0.001), respectively.
Dietary administration of 600 ppm SFN and 1.0% DBM also reduced colon
tumor numbers by 80% (P = 0.016) and 60% (P = 0.103), respectively,
whereas the combination of SFN and DBM treatment blocked the colon
tumor development (P = 0.002).
Both SFN and DBM treatments resulted in decreased levels of
prostaglandin E2 or leukotriene B4 in intestinal polyps or apparently
normal mucosa.
Treatments also led to the inhibition of cell survival and growth-
related signaling pathways (such as Akt and extracellular signal-
regulated kinase) or biomarkers (such as cyclooxygenase-2,
proliferating cell nuclear antigen, cleaved caspases, cyclin D1, and
p21).
In conclusion, our results showed that both SFN and DBM alone as well
as their combination are potent natural dietary compounds for
chemoprevention of gastrointestinal cancers.
[Cancer Res 2007;67(20):9937-44]

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> >http://tinyurl.com/239o6b
> > "Plant-derived PUFAs require desaturation to form EPA and DHA"
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> --
>    Ron
Ron Peterson - 19 Mar 2008 20:39 GMT
> On Mar 8, 1:22 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core.com>
> wrote:Fruitnormally is low in PUFAs, so what is infruit(and
> vegetables) that is so healthful? <<

> It seems those iron chelating properties found in sulforaphane and
> dibenxoylmethane may have something to do with it.

I was thinking more along the lines of atherosclerosis than cancer
since cancer usually has later onset.

For example, http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/136/7/1886
states:
"Although the pathway(s) involved remain uncertain, the results
indicate that a diet rich in green and yellow vegetables inhibits the
development of atherosclerosis and may therefore lead to a reduction
in the risk of coronary heart disease."

Other studies show that fruit also has benefit with citrus fruits
being particularly effective, but it seems that it is difficult to
identify the nutritional factors that are in operation.

--
   Ron
ironjustice - 19 Mar 2008 21:04 GMT
On Mar 19, 12:39 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core.com> wrote:Other
studies show that fruit
also has benefit with citrus fruits being particularly effective, but
it seems that it is difficult to
identify the nutritional factors that are in operation.<<

Why Can Grapefruit Interfere With Some Medications?
Main Category: Pharmacy / Pharmacist
Also Included In: Nutrition / Diet;  Biology / Biochemistry
Article Date: 19 Mar 2008 - 2:00 PDT

People are discouraged from consuming grapefruits or grapefruit juice
while taking certain medications because they can affect the way the
medications are metabolized. Now scientists are closer to
understanding why this dangerous interaction occurs. Johns Hopkins
Health Alerts reports on the latest research.

New York, NY (PRWEB) March 13, 2008 --Johns Hopkins Health Alerts'
recent Prescription Drug Health Alert reported on new research
regarding the reason why grapefruit juice can potentially cause a
dangerous interaction with certain of the medications you take.

FOOD AND DRUG INTERACTIONS

Certain foods and drinks don't mix well with certain medications. For
example, grapefruits or grapefruit juice may interact badly with a
number of medications, because natural grapefruit contains a substance
that affects the activity of an enzyme in the intestines and liver
that processes these medications. This could result in a dangerous
increase in the level of the drug in your blood.

Another potentially dangerous interaction is between the blood thinner
warfarin (Coumadin and generic brands) and vitamin K. The vitamin,
present in many multivitamins and supplements, neutralizes or reduces
the effect of the medication warfarin. This raises the risk of a blood
clot, which the warfarin is intended to prevent.

GRAPEFRUIT AND DRUG INTERACTIONS

Now scientists have identified the specific chemical in grapefruit
juice responsible for many drug-food interactions, according to an
article in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (Volume 83, page
1097).

Previous research implicated a family of chemical compounds called
furanocoumarins (FCs) as the culprit in grapefruit juice. To confirm
this suspicion, the scientists created FC-free grapefruit juice and
compared its effects with those of whole grapefruit juice or orange
juice (the control group in the study).

GRAPEFRUIT AND DRUG INTERACTION STUDY

Eighteen study volunteers drank 8 oz of whole or FC-free juice along
with a dose of felodipine (Plendil), a blood pressure medication.

The blood concentration of Plendil was nearly THREE times higher when
people took it with 8 ounces of whole grapefruit juice, compared with
blood levels after subjects took it with the FC-free grapefruit juice
or orange juice (the control group in the study).

This means that the blood level of Plendil was higher when taken with
whole grapefruit juice, potentially causing dangerously low blood
pressure.

The researchers said their finding could assist in the study of other
drug-food interactions.

Grapefruit has also been known to diminish the absorption of some
drugs in the body. So always follow the guidelines given on your
medications with regard to food and drug interactions.

One further note: In reference to the control group in the study,
regular orange juice was found to be safe to drink with Plendil.
However, you may want to avoid Seville oranges in juice or marmalade,
as they are the only type of oranges to contain furanocoumarins.

You can learn more about the latest research on prescription drugs in
the annual Johns Hopkins Prescription Drug White Paper:
The Johns Hopkins White Paper: Prescription Drugs

Medical Disclaimer: This information is not intended to substitute for
the advice of a physician.

http://www.johnshopkinshealthalerts.com

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> > On Mar 8, 1:22 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core.com>
> > wrote:Fruitnormally is low in PUFAs, so what is infruit(and
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> --
>     Ron
ironjustice - 19 Mar 2008 21:27 GMT
difficult to
identify the nutritional factors that are in operation <<

Cytochrome P450 inhibition?

"Discovery of new, inexpensive, CYP3A4 inhibitors"

CYP3A4 inhibitors isolated from a marine derived fungus Penicillium
speciesAccession number;07A0265199
Title;CYP3A4 inhibitors isolated from a marine derived fungus
Penicillium species
Author;EL-BEIH AHMED ATEF(Kanazawa Univ., Kanazawa, Jpn)   KATO
HIKARU(Kanazawa Univ., Kanazawa, Jpn)   TSUKAMOTO SACHIKO(Kanazawa
Univ., Kanazawa, Jpn)   OHTA TOMIHISA(Kanazawa Univ., Kanazawa,
Jpn)
Journal Title;J Nat Med

Journal Code:L5856A

ISSN:1340-3443

VOL.61;NO.2;PAGE.175-177(2007)
Figure&Table&Reference;
Pub. Country;Japan
Language;English
Abstract;More than 50% of clinically used drugs are thought to be
metabolized by cytochrome P450 (CYP) 3A4. Discovery of new,
inexpensive, CYP3A4 inhibitors will reduce drug dosages needed to cure
patients. In our search for new inhibitors of the enzyme CYP3A4,
extracts from 102 marine fungi were screened. Seven of the extracts
had potent CYP3A4 inhibitory activity. Four aromatic compounds were
isolated from an extract of a culture of one of these, a Penicillium
sp., and were identified as 3-methoxyphenol (1), 4-methoxyphenylacetic
acid (2), 4-(2-hydroxyethyl)phenol (3), and 4-hydroxy-2-
methoxyacetanilide (4) by use of spectroscopic data. Interestingly,
compound 3 at 250 .MU.g mL'-1' did not inhibit CYP3A4 whereas
compounds 1, 2 and 4 had CYP inhibitory activity with IC50 values of
2.0, 1.6 and 0.41 .MU.g mL'-1', respectively.
---------------------------------

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergamottin#_note-2

Bergamottin
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bergamottin is a natural furanocoumarin found principally in
grapefruit juice.
It is also found in the oil of bergamot, from which it was first
isolated and from which its name is derived. To a lesser extent,
bergamottin is also present in the essential oils of other citrus
fruits. Along with the chemically related compound 6',7'-
dihydroxybergamottin, it is believed to be responsible for the
grapefruit juice effect in which the consumption of the juice affects
the metabolism of a variety of pharmaceutical drugs.

Normally, the grapefruit juice effect is considered to be a negative
interaction, and patients are often warned not to consume grapefruit
or its juice when taking medication. However, some current research is
focused on the potential benefits of cytochrome P450 inhibition.[3]

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> On Mar 19, 12:39 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core.com> wrote:Other
> studies show that fruit
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>
> - Show quoted text -
ironjustice - 19 Mar 2008 21:41 GMT
Cytochrome P450 inhibition? <<

"Kaempferol is an inhibitor of CYP3A"

1: Biopharm Drug Dispos. 2008 Mar 12;29(4):245-249 [Epub ahead of
print] Links
Effects of oral kaempferol on the pharmacokinetics of tamoxifen and
one of its metabolites, 4-hydroxytamoxifen, after oral administration
of tamoxifen to rats.Piao Y, Shin SC, Choi JS.
College of Pharmacy, Chosun University, Gwangju, Republic of Korea.

It has been reported that tamoxifen is a substrate of P-glycoprotein
(P-gp) and microsomal cytochrome P450 (CYP) 3A, and kaempferol is an
inhibitor of P-gp and CYP3A. Hence, it could be expected that
kaempferol would affect the pharmacokinetics of tamoxifen. Thus,
tamoxifen was administered orally (10 mg/kg) without or with oral
kaempferol (2.5 and 10 mg/kg). In the presence of kaempferol, the
total area under the plasma concentration-time curve from time zero to
time infinity (AUC) of tamoxifen was significantly greater, C(max) was
significantly higher and F was considerably greater than those without
kaempferol. The enhanced bioavailability of oral tamoxifen by oral
kaempferol could have been due to an inhibition of CYP3A and P-gp by
kaempferol. The presence of kaempferol did not alter the
pharmacokinetic parameters of a metabolite of tamoxifen, 4-
hydroxytamoxifen. This could have been because the contribution of
CYP3A to the formation of 4-hydroxytamoxifen is not considerable in
rats. Copyright (c) 2008 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.

PMID: 18338336 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

-----------------------------------------

J. Phys. Chem. B, 112 (6), 1845 -1850, 2008. 10.1021/jp076881e
S1520-6106(07)06881-2
Web Release Date: January 23, 2008
Copyright © 2008 American Chemical Society

Complexation of Flavonoids with Iron: Structure and Optical
Signatures
Jun Ren, Sheng Meng, Ch. E. Lekka, and Efthimios Kaxiras*
Department of Physics and School of Engineering and Applied Sciences,
Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts 02138, and Department of
Materials Science and Engineering, University of Ioannina, Ioannina
45110, Greece
Received: August 28, 2007
In Final Form: October 31, 2007
Abstract:
Flavonoids exhibit antioxidant behavior believed to be related to
their metal ion chelation ability. We investigate the complexation
mechanism of several flavonoids, quercetin, luteolin, galangin,
kaempferol, and chrysin, with iron, the most abundant type of metal
ions in the body, through first-principles electronic structure
calculations based on density functional theory (DFT). We find that
the most likely chelation site for Fe is the 3-hydroxyl-4-carbonyl
group, followed by 4-carbonyl-5-hydroxyl group and the 3'-4' hydroxyl
(if present) for all of the flavonoid molecules studied. Three
quercetin molecules are required to saturate the bonds of a single Fe
ion by forming six orthogonal Fe-O bonds, though the binding energy
per molecule is highest for complexes consisting of two quercetin
molecules and one Fe atom, in agreement with experiment. Optical
absorption spectra calculated with time-dependent DFT serve as
signatures to identify various complexes. For the iron-quercetin
complexes, we find a redshift of the first absorbance peak upon
complexation in good agreement with experiment; this behavior is
explained by the narrowing of the optical gap of quercetin because of
Fe(d)-O(p) orbital hybridization.

http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/jpcbfk/2008/112/i06/abs/jp07...

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kaempferol
Kaempferol is a natural flavonoid that has been isolated from tea,[1]
broccoli, Delphinium, Witch-hazel, grapefruit, and other plant
sources.

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> difficult to
> identify the nutritional factors that are in operation <<
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>
> - Show quoted text -
ironjustice - 20 Mar 2008 14:21 GMT
On Mar 19, 1:41 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...@cashette.com>
wrote:Cytochrome P450 inhibition? <<

A curious thing here is .. quercitin also inhibits Cytochrome P450 and
quercitin is a premiere iron chelator.

Sooo .. is it the flavonoids which the "studies show that fruit also
has benefit with citrus fruits
being particularly effective" ..?

Iron binding / chelating .. ?

Int J Pharm. 2006 Apr 26;313(1-2):144-9. Epub 2006 Mar 3. Links
Enhanced bioavailability of tamoxifen after oral administration of
tamoxifen with quercetin in rats.
Shin SC, Choi JS, Li X.
College of Pharmacy, Chonnam National University, Bukgu, Gwangju
500-757, Republic of Korea.

Orally administered tamoxifen undergoes a first-pass metabolism and
substrates for multidrug resistance (MDR) transporters efflux in the
liver and intestines, which obstructs its systemic exposure.
This study investigated the effect of quercetin, a dual inhibitor of
CYP3A4 and P-gp, on the bioavailability and pharmacokinetics of
tamoxifen and one of its metabolites, 4-hydroxytamoxifen, in rats.
The pharmacokinetic parameters of tamoxifen and 4-hydroxytamoxifen in
plasma were determined after orally administering tamoxifen (10 mg/kg)
with or without quercetin (2.5, 7.5 and 15 mg/kg).
The coadministration of quercetin (2.5 and 7.5 mg/kg) significantly (p
< 0.05) increased the absorption rate constant (K(a)), peak
concentration (C(max)) and the areas under the plasma concentration-
time curve (AUC) of tamoxifen.
The absolute bioavailability (AB%) of tamoxifen with 2.5 and 7.5 mg/kg
quercetin ranged from 18.0% to 24.1%, which was significantly higher
than the control group, 15.0% (p < 0.05).
The relative bioavailability (RB%) of tamoxifen coadministered with
quercetin was 1.20-1.61 times higher than the control group. The
coadministration of quercetin caused no significant changes in the
terminal half-life (t(1/2)) and the time to reach the peak
concentration (T(max)) of tamoxifen.
Compared with the control group, the coadministration of 7.5 mg/kg
quercetin significantly (p < 0.05) increased the AUC of 4-
hydroxytamoxifen.
However, the metabolite ratios (MR; AUC of 4-hydroxytamoxifen to
tamoxifen) were significantly lower (p < 0.05).
This suggests that quercetin inhibits the both MDR transporters efflux
and first-pass metabolism of tamoxifen.
The enhanced bioavailability of tamoxifen as a result of its
coadministration with quercetin might be due to the effect of
quercetin promoting the intestinal absorption and reducing the first-
pass metabolism of tamoxifen.
If the results are further confirmed in the clinical trials, the
tamoxifen dosage should be adjusted when tamoxifen is administered
with quercetin or quercetin-containing dietary supplements in order to
avoid potential drug interactions.

PMID: 16516418 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
----------------

**Therapeutic outcome was coincident with more efficient iron
clearance,
suggesting that one possible mechanism whereby quercetin decreases
secondary
damage is through iron chelation**

J Neurotrauma. 2003 Jun;20(6):583-591.  Related Articles, Links

Quercetin Promotes Functional Recovery Following Acute Spinal Cord
Injury.

Schultke E, Kendall E, Kamencic H, Ghong Z, Griebel RW, Juurlink BH.

Department of Anatomy and Cell Biology, and Department of Surgery,
Division of
Neurosurgery, University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada.

We tested the hypothesis that quercetin, a potent Fe(2+)-chelating
flavonoid,
would decrease secondary damage following spinal cord trauma. MRI
studies using
the relaxation of the T1 proton signal caused by Fe(2+) ions and the
dose-dependent reversal of this effect by addition of quercetin in
aqueous
solution were used to guide us to the dosage of quercetin to be used
in animal
experimentations. Forty-four male Wistar rats were used in two
experimental
series to test the hypothesis that administration of quercetin
improves
recovery of motor function after acute traumatic spinal cord injury.
Animals
were subjected to laminectomy and subjected to an extradural 40-g
force clip
compression for 5 sec at T7. Quercetin or saline was administered
intraperitoneally 1 h after injury and then every 12 hr thereafter.
Recovery of
motor function was assessed using BBB scores at weekly intervals for 4
weeks. A
dose of 2.5 micromoles quercetin/kg body weight did not result in
significantly
better functional outcome, whereas doses ranging from 5 to 100
micromoles
quercetin/kg body weight resulted in a significantly better functional
outcome
with half or more of the animals walking, although with deficit; in
contrast,
no animals walked in the group of saline-treated animals. No
significant
differences in behavioral outcome were seen amongst the doses ranging
from 5 to
100 micromol/kg, nor was there a difference if animals were treated
for 4 or 10
days. Therapeutic outcome was coincident with more efficient iron
clearance,
suggesting that one possible mechanism whereby quercetin decreases
secondary
damage is through iron chelation.

PMID: 12906742 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

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> Cytochrome P450 inhibition? <<
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Mr-Natural-Health - 09 Mar 2008 19:22 GMT
Is that carb, a Ford or a Chevy?

In America, where English is spoken by a few, the correct spelling is
C-A-R.

You get FAT from eating food.

That is spelled F-O-O-D, in any form.  No matter where you are from or
where you live.

Just thought that the Ding-A-Ling might want to know that excess
calories over your phyiscal level of activity is what makes fat
tissues even fattier.
Taka - 10 Mar 2008 06:02 GMT
On Mar 10, 3:22 am, Mr-Natural-Health <john-h-
go...@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote:
> Is that carb, a Ford or a Chevy?
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> calories over your phyiscal level of activity is what makes fat
> tissues even fattier.

Wrong, have you seen the Gary Taubes video or red his book?  Not
calories but the body SETPOINT is what determines your fatness ...
The biochemistry is too good to be fooled simply by calories.
Hormones and insulin play major roles.  "carbs" stands for
carbohydrates or sugar if you like.

Taka
Mr-Natural-Health - 10 Mar 2008 11:41 GMT
> On Mar 10, 3:22 am, Mr-Natural-Health <john-h-
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Hormones and insulin play major roles.  "carbs" stands for
> carbohydrates or sugar if you like.

You and your delusions have my condolences.

STOP eating and you will positively starve to death.

Think about it!
allr1@webtv.net - 12 Mar 2008 15:09 GMT
" Is that carb, a Ford or a Chevy?

In America, where English is spoken by a few, the correct spelling is
C-A-R.

You get FAT from eating food.

That is spelled F-O-O-D, in any form. No matter where you are from or
where you live.

Just thought that the Ding-A-Ling might want to know that excess
calories over your phyiscal level of activity is what makes fat tissues
even fattier. "

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I wouldn't say it's as cut and dried as that.

Some 'carbs' are starches, which can actually
help burn fat due to the way they're digested.

Then there's the Insulin reaction which has
a profound affect on fat deposition, which is
why low carb diets work. (low Insulin spike)
 
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