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Thiamine (B1) Intolerance - Please Help

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jbrewer30004@yahoo.com - 01 Mar 2008 06:05 GMT
I am seeking help or ideas on a problem I seem to have regarding
thiamine (B1).

I have seen countless doctors for issues with a serious fatigue
problem over the past 20 years.

Muscle fatigue / weakness and mental fog are the main complaints.
About 6 years ago one of the doctors prescribed a few vitamins,
including a "standard" multivitamin. A day or so after starting the
regimen I began to feel even worse. After a process of elimination it
was revealed that Vitamin B1, thiamine, was causing me to feel utterly
lousy. The doctor felt that it must simply be the preparation of the
vitamin that I am sensitive to. I disagree, I have tried, sometimes
accidentally, various other preparations and all ultimately have the
same poor results.

It is truly awful how bad I feel after using B1.  I experience
profound muscle aches/pain, extreme weakness, severe mental fog. It
seems to amplify my underlying main complaint!

Some things I have noticed. If I abstain from taking B1 for some time,
and then allow it to be introduced, I can tolerate it for about a day.
It seems to me that would be indicative of possible overload of some
enzyme(s)? Trouble excreting B1, which is possible with kidney issues,
could also be a cause?

I should note that I have taken Benfotiamine and it brought on the
symptoms even faster! It was awful.

It is rather discouraging since it can be helpful in treating fatigue
related problems for so many people and is almost universally regarded
as having no side effects. I could find very few cases where B1
intolerance was even observed.

What in the world could be causing this?

Thanks for taking the time to read this post.

JB
Marshall Price - 21 Mar 2008 15:37 GMT
> I am seeking help or ideas on a problem I seem to have regarding
> thiamine (B1).
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>
> JB

Are you overweight?  Were you taking more than 1.5mg of thiamine per
day?  Are you getting 100% of the DVs of the other B-vitamins?  What
about other vitamins and minerals?  Are you having trouble sleeping?
Are you getting enough exercise?  Do you eat after suppertime?  Do you
have digestive problems?  Are you prone to allergies, inflammation, or
infectious diseases?  Do you take stimulants?  Are you under stress?
How old are you?  What are the "kidney issues"?  Is your liver healthy?
 Do you eat much sugar or fat?  Are you getting sufficient fiber in
your diet?  Are you taking any prescription drugs?  Are your blood lipid
and cholesterol levels normal?  What sort of doctors have you seen?  How
old were you when you first noticed these problems?  Do you live in a
healthy environment?  Have you suffered any brain injury?  Why did you
take Benfotiamine?  Do you have diabetes or anemia?  Do you have any
symptoms of thiamine deficiency?

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Mr-Natural-Health - 21 Mar 2008 17:52 GMT
Price, I can do the same thing to you that you have been doing to me.

> Have you suffered any brain injury?

Isn't the human brain as part of the nervous system in effect a
nerve?  So, Price is your erratic posting a result of a brain injury,
such as a paralyzed brain from excessive consumptions of B-6
supplements?

You have my condolences.
 
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