>>> It's been known for a long time that coffee interferes with magnesium
>>> and thiamine absorption.
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> Int J Food Sci Nutr. 1996 Nov;47(6):499-506.
> PMID: 8933204
I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what polyphenols are.
According to The American Heritage Science Dictionary (
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/polyphenol ), they contain two or more
benzene rings, but according to Merriam-Webster (
http://aolsvc.merriam-webster.aol.com/dictionary/polyphenol ), they are
polyhydroxy phenols! Does "poly" refer to the presence of more than one
phenol group, or to more than one hydroxyl group?
Incidentally, according to an article in the United Nations University
Bulletin ( http://www.unu.edu/Unupress/food/V191e/ch02.htm ), vitamin A
reduces the inhibition, at least in the case of iron.
Since the absorption of various divalent cations is mediated by
different mechanisms (mucosal ferritin, metallothionein, calcium-binding
protein...), I wonder whether polyphenols, phytates, and oxalates all
work similarly.
Is there something about thiamine which makes it uniquely susceptible
among vitamins to polyphenol binding?
(I don't have access to journals, but am most eager to find some
publicly accessible internet resources on these subjects.)

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Mr-Natural-Health - 17 Feb 2008 21:39 GMT
> >>> It's been known for a long time that coffee interferes with magnesium
> >>> and thiamine absorption.
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> polyhydroxy phenols! Does "poly" refer to the presence of more than one
> phenol group, or to more than one hydroxyl group?
http://www.beloit.edu/~nutritio/polyphenols.htm
Which was located with ...
polyphenols OR polyhydroxy "phenol group" OR "hydroxyl group"
site:.edu
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&rlz=1B2GGGL_enUS204US205
&q=polyphenols+OR+polyhydroxy+%22phenol+group%22+OR+%22hydroxyl+group%22+site%3A
.edu&btnG=Search
Marshall Price - 25 Feb 2008 04:01 GMT
>>>>> It's been known for a long time that coffee interferes with magnesium
>>>>> and thiamine absorption.
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>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&rlz=1B2GGGL_enUS204US205
&q=polyphenols+OR+polyhydroxy+%22phenol+group%22+OR+%22hydroxyl+group%22+site%3A
.edu&btnG=Search
Unfortunately, this is the sort of discussion I find everywhere, but not
a definition. It addresses polyphenols as a family of compounds with
certain traits and discusses the pros and cons of consuming them.
What I seek is a definition which, given a molecular structure,
indicates clearly how to identify it as a polyphenol.
Is American Heritage right (in considering the number of benzene rings),
or Merriam-Webster (in considering the number of hydroxyl moieties)?

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Mr-Natural-Health - 26 Feb 2008 16:22 GMT
> >>>>> It's been known for a long time that coffee interferes with magnesium
> >>>>> and thiamine absorption.
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> What I seek is a definition which, given a molecular structure,
> indicates clearly how to identify it as a polyphenol.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006042729758
Marshall Price - 01 Mar 2008 18:38 GMT
>>>>>>> It's been known for a long time that coffee interferes with magnesium
>>>>>>> and thiamine absorption.
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>
> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006042729758
Great link! Thank you.

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Mr-Natural-Health - 09 Mar 2008 06:36 GMT
> >>>>>>> It's been known for a long time that coffee interferes with magnesium
> >>>>>>> and thiamine absorption.
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>
> Great link! Thank you.
It is all from knowing how to search on Google.