Medical Forum / General / Nutrition / March 2008
The horror of "saturated fat" in "junk food" - what a joke !
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monty1945@lycos.com - 03 Feb 2008 06:48 GMT A friend of mine in the United Kingdom was telling me about a news story in which it was claimed that what we often call "junk food" in the USA (what they call "snacks") is very unhealthy because these items have a "high saturated fat content," or something equivalent. Apparently, such people have not actually looked at the labels of these kinds of food items (unless they are made differently in the UK - out of all the foreign "junk food" I've seen in the USA, very few items are very rich in saturated fatty acids, or SFAs). It's not just that they are incorrect, but that if they were correct, then this kind of food should be recommended, not disparaged. And it irritates me that when I go to the food store to find some "junk food" that is rich in saturated fatty acids but low in unsaturated fatty acids, I have very few choices. Below is a list of very popular "junk food" items made by a company called Little Debbie. I found the nutritional information at www.foodfacts.com, and I can't say for sure if it's all correct, but I do know that it's consistent with what I see when I read labels, that is, most of these items are rich in unsaturated fatty acids and low in SFAs. One of the few Little Debbie items I am willing to eat has 7 grams of fat per serving, 5 of which are SFAs, with no cholesterol (I wanted to try the no fat one, but haven't found it in local stores yet). Should such "reports" be considered "pure propaganda," or is there a better phrase to describe them?
Here is the list, with total fat in grams followed by the SFA content, following the name of each item:
Little Debbie Apple Pie 19 - 5
Little Debbie Apple Streusel Coffee Cake 7 - 1.5
Little Debbie Banana Marshmallow Pies no fat
Little Debbie Banana Nut Loaves 10 - 1.5
Little Debbie Be My Valentine Cakes 14 - 3
Little Debbie Boston Creme Rolls 12 -3
Little Debbie Brownie Lights 3 - 0
Little Debbie Brownies with English Walnuts 13 - 2.5
Little Debbie Cheese Crackers with Peanut Butter 8 - 1.5
Little Debbie Creme-Filled Strawberry Cupcakes 10 - 2.5
Little Debbie Devil Cremes Filled Cakes 8 - 2
Little Debbie Devil Squares 13 - 3
Little Debbie German Chocolate Cookie Rings with Caramel 7 - 5 (this is what it says on the package I have)
Little Debbie Honey Buns 13 - 3.5
Little Debbie Peanut Butter Crunch Bars 15 -3
Little Debbie Pound Cakes 9 - 2.5
Little Debbie Snack Cakes 15 - 4
Little Debbie Star Crunch Cookies 6 - 1.5
Little Debbie White Fall Party Cakes 15 - 3.5
Now compare the SFA content in most of these items to the SFA content in the other food Americans or UK citizens eat that has more than a negligible fat content. A bad joke !
Taka - 03 Feb 2008 08:04 GMT Most of the people are so brainwashed by the massmedia propaganda that they never look at the labels or understand them. They just blindly follow what they are fed from the TV commercials etc. Sadly, in other countries like Japan there is not even the label showing fat composition ... And you never know what oils are used in the restaurant foods - if at least the price could give some hints. People eating in more expensive restaurants do seem healthier but that may be related to just how much peroxidized/reused the oils are before consumption.
Taka
monty1945@lycos.com - 03 Feb 2008 23:54 GMT That's a good point. My impression is that the cheaper the restaurant food, the lower the quality of the fat used. Here are more "junk food" items (if there is a third number, it is the trans fatty acid content - also note that the Keebler information came from their site, whereas the rest came from www.foodfacts.com):
Keebler: Sandies Pecan Shortbread 5 - 1.5 - 2
Vienna Fingers 7 - 2.5 - 2.5
Country Style Oatmeal cookies 6 - 1.5 - 2.5
Original Chips Deluxe cookies 16 - 4 - 4.5
From www.foodfacts.com:
Biscos Sugar Wafers with Creme Filling 6 - 1.5
Hostess Apple Fruit Pie 22 - 9
Hostess Twinkies Golden Sponge Cake 5 - 1.5
Hostess Orange Flavored Cup Cakes With Cream Filling 7 - 2.5
Drake's Cherry Fruit Pie 18 - 5
Drake's Chocolate Frosted Creme Filled Yodels 16 - 6
Drake's Coffee Cakes 6 - 2
Drake's Sunny Doodles 8 - 2
Drake's Yankee Doodles 9 - 0
Drake's Swiss Rolls 15 - 4
Entenmann's Enten-mini's Carrot Cakes 7 - 1.5
Mrs. Freshley's Swiss Rolls 11 - 2.5
Oscar Mayer Lunchables - Fun Snacks - Fudge Brownie 9 - 3
Archway Bed & Breakfast Crispy Pecan Shortbread Cookies 10 - 2.5
Archway Homestyle Cashew Nougat Holiday Cookies 11 - 2.5
Burger Kings Nestle Toll House Chocolate Chip Cookies 16 - 5
Chips Ahoy! Chewy Chocolate Chip Cookies 8 - 2.5
Wal-mart Family Size Orange Pineapple Creme Sandwich Cookie 6 - 1
Wal-mart Family Size Orange Pineapple Creme Sandwich Cookie 4.5 - 3.5 (I've eaten these recently)
Wal-Mart Iced Oatmeal Cookies 5 - 1.1
Kraft Handi-Snacks Teddy Grahams Bearwiches Honey Graham Cookies & Creme 7 - 1
Lorna Doone Shortbread Cookies 7 - 1
Nabisco Double Delight Oreo Mint 'n Creme Chocolate Sandwich Cookies 7 - 1.5
Nabisco Twirls Marshmallow Fudge Cookies 6 - 1
Pepperidge Farm Entertaining Collection Distinctive Cookies 7 - 2.5
Pepperidge Farm Oatmeal Cranberry Soft Baked Cookies 4 - 1
Pop-Tarts Frosted Cookies & Creme Toaster Pastries 5 - 1.5
ShopRite Chocolate Cremes Sandwich Cookies 7 - 1.5
ShopRite Peanut Butter Cookies 7 - 1.5
Cookies & Snickers Crunchy Cookie Bars 11 - 3
Stella D'oro Lady Stella Cookies 4 - 1.5
Thus, if one wanted to avoid "saturated fat" in typical "snack" food, it would be very easy. On the other hand, if you want an item that is rich in SFAs but low in PUFAs, your choices are very limited.
monty1945@lycos.com - 04 Feb 2008 03:44 GMT Correction: The second instance of "Wal-mart Family Size Orange Pineapple Creme Sandwich Cookie" should read "Wal-mart Chocolate Marshmallow Cookies"
Marshall Price - 17 Mar 2008 10:12 GMT > That's a good point. My impression is that the cheaper the restaurant > food, the lower the quality of the fat used. Here are more "junk > food" items (if there is a third number, it is the trans fatty acid > content - also note that the Keebler information came from their site, > whereas the rest came from www.foodfacts.com): Then why did you avoid giving the figures for trans fats?
And why aren't you worried about candor in listing ingredients? "May contain one or more of the following" and "partially hydrogenated" are weasel words!
Your friend simply misunderstood the problem. It's the trans fats which are well-established hazards.
(Though as far as I know, it's only in New York City's restaurants that they've actually been made illegal.)
Heating vegetable oils to very high temperatures, at very high pressures, and pumping hydrogen through them in order to obtain a cheap substitute for natural saturated fats is a terribly unhealthy carry-over from World War II emergency chemistry.
Whether you like saturated, mono-unsaturated, or poly-unsaturated fats, you must certainly agree that trans fats are terrible -- and Lil Debbie, unless I'm mistaken, is one of the worst offenders.
I used to love those fudge brownies before I realized what they were doing to me. They made me feel great for half an hour and sick for *years*. I never had a cholesterol problem (despite a very high intake of both cholesterol and saturated fat) before I started eating those.
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Marshall Price - 17 Mar 2008 10:35 GMT > Most of the people are so brainwashed by the massmedia propaganda that > they never look at the labels or understand them. They just blindly [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Taka Here in Miami, they just lie. If you go to a Cuban restaurant and ask whether they use *real butter* from *cows*, they say yes, but they always use cheap margarine, and when asked, they lie. If you insist on seeing the package (and they show it to you), they act as if they don't understand plain Spanish.
I grew up on the same block, in a small suburban town (Bay Shore, NY), as the original Entenmann's bakery. My parents moved there because of the three nice bakeries in that town. They all used real butter, and Entenmann's in particular, used lots of fresh, ripe, delicious fruit.
Mom went to high school with Mr Entenmann's sons. One became a lawyer and the other, an accountant. The rest is history.
They got rich the way my grandfather did: by centralizing their operations in huge factories and trucking things around when gas was cheap. (They moved baked goods; he moved laundry. He owned 57 laundries in Washington, DC: empty fronts acquired and gutted during the Depression.)
Entenmann's today uses no butter and no fresh fruit. Its ingredients are all staples. It has been bought and sold by huge, famous conglomerates, and still hangs on, thanks to Mr Entenmann's reputation, modern food science, financial strength, and public ignorance.
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