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The horror of "saturated fat" in "junk food" - what a joke !

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monty1945@lycos.com - 03 Feb 2008 06:48 GMT
A friend of mine in the United Kingdom was telling me about a news
story in which it was claimed that what we often call "junk food" in
the USA (what they call "snacks") is very unhealthy because these
items have a "high saturated fat content," or something equivalent.
Apparently, such people have not actually looked at the labels of
these kinds of food items (unless they are made differently in the UK
- out of all the foreign "junk food" I've seen in the USA, very few
items are very rich in saturated fatty acids, or SFAs). It's not just
that they are incorrect, but that if they were correct, then this kind
of food should be recommended, not disparaged. And it irritates me
that when I go to the food store to find some "junk food" that is rich
in saturated fatty acids but low in unsaturated fatty acids, I have
very few choices. Below is a list of very popular "junk food" items
made by a company called Little Debbie. I found the nutritional
information at www.foodfacts.com, and I can't say for sure if it's all
correct, but I do know that it's consistent with what I see when I
read labels, that is, most of these items are rich in unsaturated
fatty acids and low in SFAs. One of the few Little Debbie items I am
willing to eat has 7 grams of fat per serving, 5 of which are SFAs,
with no cholesterol (I wanted to try the no fat one, but haven't found
it in local stores yet). Should such "reports" be considered "pure
propaganda," or is there a better phrase to describe them?

Here is the list, with total fat in grams followed by the SFA content,
following the name of each item:

Little Debbie Apple Pie
19 - 5

Little Debbie Apple Streusel Coffee Cake
7 - 1.5

Little Debbie Banana Marshmallow Pies
no fat

Little Debbie Banana Nut Loaves
10 - 1.5

Little Debbie Be My Valentine Cakes
14 - 3

Little Debbie Boston Creme Rolls
12 -3

Little Debbie Brownie Lights
3 - 0

Little Debbie Brownies with English Walnuts
13 - 2.5

Little Debbie Cheese Crackers with Peanut Butter
8 - 1.5

Little Debbie Creme-Filled Strawberry Cupcakes
10 - 2.5

Little Debbie Devil Cremes Filled Cakes
8 - 2

Little Debbie Devil Squares
13 - 3

Little Debbie German Chocolate Cookie Rings with Caramel
7 - 5 (this is what it says on the package I have)

Little Debbie Honey Buns
13 - 3.5

Little Debbie Peanut Butter Crunch Bars
15 -3

Little Debbie Pound Cakes
9 - 2.5

Little Debbie Snack Cakes
15 - 4

Little Debbie Star Crunch Cookies
6 - 1.5

Little Debbie White Fall Party Cakes
15 - 3.5

Now compare the SFA content in most of these items to the SFA content
in the other food Americans or UK citizens eat that has more than a
negligible fat content.  A bad joke !
Taka - 03 Feb 2008 08:04 GMT
Most of the people are so brainwashed by the massmedia propaganda that
they never look at the labels or understand them.  They just blindly
follow what they are fed from the TV commercials etc.  Sadly, in other
countries like Japan there is not even the label showing fat
composition ...  And you never know what oils are used in the
restaurant foods - if at least the price could give some hints.
People eating in more expensive restaurants do seem healthier but that
may be related to just how much peroxidized/reused the oils are before
consumption.

Taka
monty1945@lycos.com - 03 Feb 2008 23:54 GMT
That's a good point.  My impression is that the cheaper the restaurant
food, the lower the quality of the fat used.  Here are more "junk
food" items (if there is a third number, it is the trans fatty acid
content - also note that the Keebler information came from their site,
whereas the rest came from www.foodfacts.com):

Keebler:
Sandies Pecan Shortbread
5 - 1.5 - 2

Vienna Fingers
7 - 2.5 - 2.5

Country Style Oatmeal cookies
6 - 1.5 - 2.5

Original Chips Deluxe cookies
16 - 4 - 4.5

From www.foodfacts.com:

Biscos Sugar Wafers with Creme Filling
6 - 1.5

Hostess Apple Fruit Pie
22 - 9

Hostess Twinkies Golden Sponge Cake
5 - 1.5

Hostess Orange Flavored Cup Cakes With Cream Filling
7 - 2.5

Drake's Cherry Fruit Pie
18 - 5

Drake's Chocolate Frosted Creme Filled Yodels
16 - 6

Drake's Coffee Cakes
6 - 2

Drake's Sunny Doodles
8 - 2

Drake's Yankee Doodles
9 - 0

Drake's Swiss Rolls
15 - 4

Entenmann's Enten-mini's Carrot Cakes
7 - 1.5

Mrs. Freshley's Swiss Rolls
11 - 2.5

Oscar Mayer Lunchables - Fun Snacks - Fudge Brownie
9 - 3

Archway Bed & Breakfast Crispy Pecan Shortbread Cookies
10 - 2.5

Archway Homestyle Cashew Nougat Holiday Cookies
11 - 2.5

Burger Kings Nestle Toll House Chocolate Chip Cookies
16 - 5

Chips Ahoy! Chewy Chocolate Chip Cookies
8 - 2.5

Wal-mart Family Size Orange Pineapple Creme Sandwich Cookie
6 - 1

Wal-mart Family Size Orange Pineapple Creme Sandwich Cookie
4.5 - 3.5 (I've eaten these recently)

Wal-Mart Iced Oatmeal Cookies
5 - 1.1

Kraft Handi-Snacks Teddy Grahams Bearwiches Honey Graham Cookies &
Creme
7 - 1

Lorna Doone Shortbread Cookies
7 - 1

Nabisco Double Delight Oreo Mint 'n Creme Chocolate Sandwich Cookies
7 - 1.5

Nabisco Twirls Marshmallow Fudge Cookies
6 - 1

Pepperidge Farm Entertaining Collection Distinctive Cookies
7 - 2.5

Pepperidge Farm Oatmeal Cranberry Soft Baked Cookies
4 - 1

Pop-Tarts Frosted Cookies & Creme Toaster Pastries
5 - 1.5

ShopRite Chocolate Cremes Sandwich Cookies
7 - 1.5

ShopRite Peanut Butter Cookies
7 - 1.5

Cookies & Snickers Crunchy Cookie Bars
11 - 3

Stella D'oro Lady Stella Cookies
4 - 1.5

Thus, if one wanted to avoid "saturated fat" in typical "snack" food,
it would be very easy.  On the other hand, if you want an item that is
rich in SFAs but low in PUFAs, your choices are very limited.
monty1945@lycos.com - 04 Feb 2008 03:44 GMT
Correction:  The second instance of "Wal-mart Family Size Orange
Pineapple Creme Sandwich Cookie" should read "Wal-mart Chocolate
Marshmallow Cookies"
Marshall Price - 17 Mar 2008 10:12 GMT
> That's a good point.  My impression is that the cheaper the restaurant
> food, the lower the quality of the fat used.  Here are more "junk
> food" items (if there is a third number, it is the trans fatty acid
> content - also note that the Keebler information came from their site,
> whereas the rest came from www.foodfacts.com):

Then why did you avoid giving the figures for trans fats?

And why aren't you worried about candor in listing ingredients?  "May
contain one or more of the following" and "partially hydrogenated" are
weasel words!

Your friend simply misunderstood the problem.  It's the trans fats which
are well-established hazards.

(Though as far as I know, it's only in New York City's restaurants that
they've actually been made illegal.)

Heating vegetable oils to very high temperatures, at very high
pressures, and pumping hydrogen through them in order to obtain a cheap
substitute for natural saturated fats is a terribly unhealthy carry-over
from World War II emergency chemistry.

Whether you like saturated, mono-unsaturated, or poly-unsaturated fats,
you must certainly agree that trans fats are terrible -- and Lil Debbie,
unless I'm mistaken, is one of the worst offenders.

I used to love those fudge brownies before I realized what they were
doing to me.  They made me feel great for half an hour and sick for
*years*.  I never had a cholesterol problem (despite a very high intake
of both cholesterol and saturated fat) before I started eating those.

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Marshall Price - 17 Mar 2008 10:35 GMT
> Most of the people are so brainwashed by the massmedia propaganda that
> they never look at the labels or understand them.  They just blindly
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>
> Taka

Here in Miami, they just lie.  If you go to a Cuban restaurant and ask
whether they use *real butter* from *cows*, they say yes, but they
always use cheap margarine, and when asked, they lie.  If you insist on
seeing the package (and they show it to you), they act as if they don't
understand plain Spanish.

I grew up on the same block, in a small suburban town (Bay Shore, NY),
as the original Entenmann's bakery.  My parents moved there because of
the three nice bakeries in that town.  They all used real butter, and
Entenmann's in particular, used lots of fresh, ripe, delicious fruit.

Mom went to high school with Mr Entenmann's sons.  One became a lawyer
and the other, an accountant.  The rest is history.

They got rich the way my grandfather did: by centralizing their
operations in huge factories and trucking things around when gas was
cheap.  (They moved baked goods; he moved laundry.  He owned 57
laundries in Washington, DC: empty fronts acquired and gutted during the
Depression.)

Entenmann's today uses no butter and no fresh fruit.  Its ingredients
are all staples.  It has been bought and sold by huge, famous
conglomerates, and still hangs on, thanks to Mr Entenmann's reputation,
modern food science, financial strength, and public ignorance.

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