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Medical Forum / General / Nutrition / February 2008EPA/DHA and/or GLA supplements
Do readers of this group have any opinions about whether it's healthful to take these? Thanks. Go to my free site and click on the essay (listed on the left) about fish oil quotations: http://groups.msn.com/TheScientificDebateForum- > Do readers of this group have any opinions about whether it's > healthful to take these? > > Thanks. I took all three for a long time. I no longer take GLA but get a lot of EPA/DHA.  SignaturePramesh Rutaji p297tongue6221@newsguy.com - remove tongue to reply > > Do readers of this group have any opinions about whether it's > > healthful to take these? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I took all three for a long time. I no longer take GLA but get a lot of > EPA/DHA. May I ask why you no longer take GLA? >>> Do readers of this group have any opinions about whether it's >>> healthful to take these? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > May I ask why you no longer take GLA? Life Extension Foundation Magazine and current research referenced was enough to push me over the tipping point to not taking it for now (after taking it for 3 years). And, I had a desire to simplify my supplement regiment since it is extensive. These magazines are online or quickly placed online after they come out. I took a quick look at the online material and found the follow. Since I take the LEF brand fish oil with sesame lignans, I decided I could for now do with out GLA. There was something else in the magazine but I cannot find it at the moment. Here is the revelant paragraphs: "GLA (gamma-linolenic acid) is a dietary fat that can increase levels of DGLA and beneficial prostaglandin E1 in the body. When sesame lignans are combined with fish oil, DGLA levels rise dramatically and the anti-inflammatory benefit of the fish oil greatly improves." "For consumers, this means that taking fish oil with sesame lignans may provide comparable benefits to fish and borage oil (GLA) supplements. Super Omega-3 contains a standardized sesame lignan extract to provide users with these synergistic benefits shown in scientific studies. " http://search.lef.org/cgi-src-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=0&page_id=15&query=GLA&hiwor d=GLA%20 SignaturePramesh Rutaji p297tongue6221@newsguy.com - remove tongue to reply > > In article <fnr6q712...@news3.newsguy.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > are combined with fish oil, DGLA levels rise dramatically and the > anti-inflammatory benefit of the fish oil greatly improves." Yeah, because sesame inhibits the delta-5-desaturase which makes AA from DGLA. You can cook with sesame oil to get the same "benefits". You may also consume trans fats to inhibit the delta-6-desaturase and your Mead acid synthesis pathway would be completely f.cked. You all people have to learn the hard way, don't you. Taka > "For consumers, this means that taking fish oil with sesame lignans may > provide comparable benefits to fish and borage oil (GLA) supplements. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > p297tongue6...@newsguy.com - remove tongue to reply >>> In article <fnr6q712...@news3.newsguy.com>, >>>> marifasuslupi...@yahoo.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Taka "All you people". Who is "all"? I don't do trans-fats and avoid products that list them in the product list even if they meet the legal definition of "0 grams trans fat per serving". >> "For consumers, this means that taking fish oil with sesame lignans may >> provide comparable benefits to fish and borage oil (GLA) supplements. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> p297tongue6...@newsguy.com - remove tongue to reply SignaturePramesh Rutaji p297tongue6221@newsguy.com - remove tongue to reply > "All you people". Who is "all"? All those who come here to get advice on which Omega-3 supplement is the best to take ... I would really like those who advise them to state first how much they have been taking personally, for how long and which real health problems they "cured" with it (not just blood markers). > I don't do trans-fats and avoid products that list them in the product > list even if they meet the legal definition of "0 grams trans fat per > serving". That's good, but it's pointless to inhibit the other steps in the "essential fatty acid" synthesis pathway. The body needs the end products, be it Mead acid, AA or DHA, for specific signaling functions in specific tissues to function optimally (in natural limited amounts). Note that the establishment prefers to feed you PUFA-rich vegetable oils to charge your tissues with arachidonic acid (AA) and then sell you different expensive drugs and nutritional supplements like fish oils or GLA to inhibit its inflammatory discharge when you are under stress or accumulate irritants like AGEs during aging in your body. Even if you find cheap source of Omega-3 it's a bad approach in long term - just look at how the evolution increases longevity - by decreasing the membrane unsaturation and DHA seems to be the particular culprit here. If you want to live just the "intended" human lifespan which is about 40 years, go ahead with high PUFA diet/ supplementation program. But you won't die so easily like in the caveman era and it will cost you a lot of money to keep the "chronic diseases" in check. Taka >> "All you people". Who is "all"? > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Taka I actually do not use vegetable oils in cooking and generally don't eat processed foods that contain them. I'm into meat(red,fish,fowl), veggies, fruit, and nuts and cook with olive oil and don't have a problem with butter. I would use coconut oil as well but don't care much for the taste. SignaturePramesh Rutaji p297tongue6221@newsguy.com - remove tongue to reply In article <fcdc287b-5b4a-4444-ba00-dabe5816698d@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, > > "All you people". Who is "all"? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and which real health problems they "cured" with it (not just blood > markers). You can search pubmed for real studies on real people with real health problems and the measured effects from taking fish oil. There are many thousands of studies on fish oil, epa and dha. Most of the "omega-3" studies are on fish oil. Even though the flax industry would like you to believe they are just as good. " You can search pubmed for real studies on real people with real health problems and the measured effects from taking fish oil. There are many thousands of studies on fish oil, epa and dha. Most of the "omega-3" studies are on fish oil. Even though the flax industry would like you to believe they are just as good. " ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What if fish oil leads to an inflammatory response for someone taking it? Real studies are for real suckers. >> > In article <fnr6q712...@news3.newsguy.com>, >> [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >> >> p297tongue6...@newsguy.com - remove tongue to reply You are beginning to sound wild like the other mononutrient fanatics. Join monty and the iron maiden in trhe barrel. 'bye MikeV " Do readers of this group have any opinions about whether it's healthful to take these? " ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Only YOU can really make this determination. Take some and see how it affects you, you'll need to pay close attention to your own body for any clues, then you'll know. Nothing beats personal experience, when it comes to determining what's best for YOU. |
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