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September - 26 Jan 2004 23:24 GMT
Study links high-carbs and weight loss
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/news/7801389.htm

CHICAGO - In the midst of the low-carb craze, a new study suggests
that by eating lots of carbohydrates and little fat, it is possible to
lose weight without actually cutting calories - and without
exercising, either.

The study was small, consisting of just 34 overweight adults who
either ate the recommended diet for three months; ate the recommended
diet and exercised regularly; or ate pretty much what they usually
eat.

All meals were prepared for participants, who were instructed to eat
as much as they wanted. They also were told to return any uneaten
food, which the researchers said enabled them to calculate calorie
intake.

Many doctors dispute whether people can lose weight without reducing
their food intake, and at least one questioned the study's accuracy.

But the diet is more compatible with conventional notions of healthful
eating than the fatty, low-carbohydrate Atkins and South Beach diets.

Participants on the recommended diet lost about 7 pounds without
cutting calories and without exercise, and almost 11 pounds with 45
minutes of stationary bike-riding four times weekly. The control group
lost no weight.

The findings appear in Monday's Archives of Internal Medicine.

Gary Foster, clinical director of the University of Pennsylvania's
Weight and Eating Disorders Program, said he suspects participants who
lost weight ate less than what was reported. He said that while he
recommends a low-fat, high carb diet to patients, without calorie
reduction it would be "a public health disaster."

"The whole idea that you could lose weight without reducing energy
intake flies in the face of 100 years of data," Foster said.

Lead author William Evans of the University of Arkansas for Medical
Sciences stood by his findings.

"Calories in minus calories out does not always determine the amount
of weight loss," Evans said. "This is because we metabolize fats and
carbohydrates very differently."

American Dietetic Association spokeswoman Cindy Moore agreed and said
with low-carb diets hogging the spotlight, "it may be a reminder that
we can lose weight in a variety of different ways."

Foods on the successful diets included high-fiber cereal, vegetarian
chili, whole-wheat spaghetti, many fruits and vegetables, and skim
milk. Daily calories totaled about 2,400, similar to participants'
usual consumption.

The control group also received prepared meals with similar calories,
but the foods included sausage, scrambled eggs, macaroni and cheese,
French fries, whole milk and fewer fruits and vegetables.

The successful diet was not tested against Atkins and other low-carb
regimens, which contain more fat and fewer carbs than the control
group diet.

Abstract from Archives of Internal Medicine:

Effects of an Ad Libitum Low-Fat, High-Carbohydrate Diet on Body
Weight, Body Composition, and Fat Distribution in Older Men and Women
A Randomized Controlled Trial

Nicholas P. Hays, PhD; Raymond D. Starling, PhD; Xiaolan Liu, MD;
Dennis H. Sullivan, MD; Todd A. Trappe, PhD; James D. Fluckey, PhD;
William J. Evans, PhD

Arch Intern Med. 2004;164:210-217.

Background:  The efficacy of ad libitum low-fat diets in reducing body
weight and fat in overweight and obese adults remains controversial.

Methods:  We examined the effect of a 12-week low-fat, high–complex
carbohydrate diet alone (HI-CHO) and in combination with aerobic
exercise training (HI-CHO + EX) on body weight and composition in 34
individuals with impaired glucose tolerance (20 women and 14 men; mean
± SEM age, 66 ± 1 years). Participants were randomly assigned to a
control diet (41% fat, 14% protein, 45% carbohydrates, and 7 g of
fiber per 1000 kcal), a HI-CHO diet (18% fat, 19% protein, 63%
carbohydrates, and 26 g of fiber per 1000 kcal), or a HI-CHO diet plus
endurance exercise 4 d/wk, 45 min/d, at 80% peak oxygen consumption
(HI-CHO + EX). Participants were provided 150% of estimated energy
needs and were instructed to consume food ad libitum. Total food
intake, body composition, resting metabolic rate, and substrate
oxidation were measured.

Results:  There was no significant difference in total food intake
among the 3 groups and no change in energy intake over time. The
HI-CHO + EX and HI-CHO groups lost more body weight (–4.8 ± 0.9 kg [P
= .003] and –3.2 ± 1.2 kg [P = .02]) and a higher percentage of body
fat (–3.5% ± 0.7% [P = .01] and –2.2% ± 1.2% [P = .049]) than controls
(–0.1 ± 0.6 kg and 0.2% ± 0.6%). In addition, thigh fat area decreased
in the HI-CHO (P = .003) and HI-CHO + EX (P<.001) groups compared with
controls. High carbohydrate intake and weight loss did not result in a
decreased resting metabolic rate or reduced fat oxidation.

Conclusion:  A high-carbohydrate diet consumed ad libitum, with no
attempt at energy restriction or change in energy intake, results in
losses of body weight and body fat in older men and women.
tcomeau - 27 Jan 2004 17:17 GMT
> Study links high-carbs and weight loss
> http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/news/7801389.htm
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> food, which the researchers said enabled them to calculate calorie
> intake.

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Effects of an Ad Libitum Low-Fat, High-Carbohydrate Diet on Body
Weight, Body Composition, and Fat Distribution in Older Men and Women
A Randomized Controlled Trial

Nicholas P. Hays, PhD; Raymond D. Starling, PhD; Xiaolan Liu, MD;
Dennis H. Sullivan, MD; Todd A. Trappe, PhD; James D. Fluckey, PhD;
William J. Evans, PhD

Arch Intern Med. 2004;164:210-217.

Background  The efficacy of ad libitum low-fat diets in reducing body
weight and fat in overweight and obese adults remains controversial.

Methods  We examined the effect of a 12-week low-fat, high–complex
carbohydrate diet alone (HI-CHO) and in combination with aerobic
exercise training (HI-CHO + EX) on body weight and composition in 34
individuals with impaired glucose tolerance (20 women and 14 men; mean
± SEM age, 66 ± 1 years). Participants were randomly assigned to a
control diet (41% fat, 14% protein, 45% carbohydrates, and 7 g of
fiber per 1000 kcal), a HI-CHO diet (18% fat, 19% protein, 63%
carbohydrates, and 26 g of fiber per 1000 kcal), or a HI-CHO diet plus
endurance exercise 4 d/wk, 45 min/d, at 80% peak oxygen consumption
(HI-CHO + EX). Participants were provided 150% of estimated energy
needs and were instructed to consume food ad libitum. Total food
intake, body composition, resting metabolic rate, and substrate
oxidation were measured.

Results  There was no significant difference in total food intake
among the 3 groups and no change in energy intake over time. The
HI-CHO + EX and HI-CHO groups lost more body weight (–4.8 ± 0.9 kg [P
= .003] and –3.2 ± 1.2 kg [P = .02]) and a higher percentage of body
fat (–3.5% ± 0.7% [P = .01] and –2.2% ± 1.2% [P = .049]) than controls
(–0.1 ± 0.6 kg and 0.2% ± 0.6%). In addition, thigh fat area decreased
in the HI-CHO (P = .003) and HI-CHO + EX (P<.001) groups compared with
controls. High carbohydrate intake and weight loss did not result in a
decreased resting metabolic rate or reduced fat oxidation.

Conclusion  A high-carbohydrate diet consumed ad libitum, with no
attempt at energy restriction or change in energy intake, results in
losses of body weight and body fat in older men and women.

From the Nutrition, Metabolism, and Exercise Laboratory, Donald W.
Reynolds Department of Geriatrics, University of Arkansas for Medical
Sciences and Central Arkansas Veterans Healthcare System, Little Rock.
Dr Starling is now with Pfizer Global Research and Development,
Groton, Conn. The authors have no relevant financial interest in this
article.

-------------------------

About the authors:

Dennis H. Sullivan, M.D., Department of Geriatrics, University of
Arkansas for Medical Sciences, Little Rock. Research on feeding tubes
supported in part by Abbott Laboratories. (J. Amer. Coll. Nutr.
2000;19:446-50)

William J. Evans, PhD:

Oh lookee, the main author has written a book about.... dieting. And
it isn't a low-carb diet, big surprise. Published last May.

AstroFit: The Astronaut Program for Anti-Aging
by William J. Evans (Author), Gerald Secor Couzens (Author)
Paperback: 320 pages ; Dimensions (in inches): 0.81 x 8.42 x 5.53
Publisher: Free Press; (May 13, 2003)
ISBN: 0743216822

William J. Evans, Ph.D., a pioneer in the field of age reversal for
more than twenty years, has worked as an expert adviser to NASA on
nutrition and exercise since 1988, and is the former head of the
Nutrition, Physical Fitness, and Rapid Rehabilitation Team of the
National Space Biomedical Institution. He lives in Little Rock,
Arkansas, with his wife and three children. --This text refers to the
Hardcover edition.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0743216822/qid=1075223574/sr=1-3/r
ef=sr_1_3/002-4008306-7455238?v=glance&s=books


Gee I hope his study that found how good his diet is helps him make
the top ten bestsellers list.

At least Dr. Atkins had the ethics to let others do the studies on his
diet.

TC
jmk - 27 Jan 2004 20:14 GMT
> At least Dr. Atkins had the ethics to let others do the studies on his
> diet.
>
> TC

Yeah, for a fee...

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jmk in NC

tcomeau - 28 Jan 2004 15:25 GMT
> > At least Dr. Atkins had the ethics to let others do the studies on his
> > diet.
> >
> > TC
>
> Yeah, for a fee...

How can he possibly charge a fee for an independent researcher to
study his diet? What researcher, specifically, has he charged a fee to
study the Atkins diet?

TC
jmk - 28 Jan 2004 15:40 GMT
>>>At least Dr. Atkins had the ethics to let others do the studies on his
>>>diet.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> TC

What independant researcher(s) do you speak of?  Atkins companies
provides grants to researchers looking into the effectivenss of their
plan.  Such research is not free of bias.

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jmk in NC

tcomeau - 28 Jan 2004 19:00 GMT
> >>>At least Dr. Atkins had the ethics to let others do the studies on his
> >>>diet.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> provides grants to researchers looking into the effectivenss of their
> plan.  Such research is not free of bias.

Possibly not. But it is up front and honest about where the funding is
coming from. The attitude is that there is nothing to hide. Unlike the
myriad of studies that fail to disclose the source of funding and the
conflicting interests of the researchers.

At least with the atkins funded research you can take the funding into
account when you look at the data, the methodology and the findings
and make up your mind as to its scientific validity. Which is a hell
of a lot more than you can say about the huge numbers of industry
shills that fail to report their interests.

TC
September - 28 Jan 2004 01:29 GMT
> > Study links high-carbs and weight loss
> > http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/news/7801389.htm
[quoted text clipped - 100 lines]
>
> TC

It has nothing to do with ethics.  He didn't possess the aptitude to
properly design and execute a study so he *had* to pay others to do it
for him.  Two people he paid are Eric Westman anf Jeff Volek, and
surprise!, their studies show beneficial effects of low carb diets.
How these two are any different from the "industry shills" you're
always talking about, I have no clue.  Atkins Nutritionals *is* an
industry, in case you didn't know.  Why no diatribes against them??

And could you please explain how the data in this study came about?
Did the authors just make it all up?  Did the subjects actually gain
weight?  Did the subjects even exist?  Inquiring minds want to know.
tcomeau - 28 Jan 2004 15:34 GMT
HBrook67@aol.com (September) wrote in message

<snip>

> > Gee I hope his study that found how good his diet is helps him make
> > the top ten bestsellers list.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> properly design and execute a study so he *had* to pay others to do it
> for him.

He was a least as qualified and capable as anyone to properly design
and execute a study, the main difference is that he understands that
when you do your own studies to support a commercial venture, you end
up looking like a snake-oil salesman and you lose all credibility as a
scientist, kinda like William J. Evans and Pritikin.

Two people he paid are Eric Westman anf Jeff Volek, and
> surprise!, their studies show beneficial effects of low carb diets.
> How these two are any different from the "industry shills" you're
> always talking about, I have no clue.  Atkins Nutritionals *is* an
> industry, in case you didn't know.  Why no diatribes against them??

The difference was that the funding was up front. If the funding is up
front, then you can make up your own mind based on the design and the
execution of the study. If the researchers do not declare their
interests up front then the whole thing is suspect. Why did Evans not
declare his interests up front? Why did he not have independent
researchers do the research, why was he hiding his interests?

> And could you please explain how the data in this study came about?
> Did the authors just make it all up?  Did the subjects actually gain
> weight?  Did the subjects even exist?  Inquiring minds want to know.

It really doesn't matter. The carbs were mixed up in a way that one
cannot get any useful information regarding high-carb vs low-carb. The
study means nothing, except that Evans is not very smart, either in
business or science.

TC
Ignoramus11235 - 30 Jan 2004 17:27 GMT
Atkins nutritionals is one of the worst abusers and scammers in the
entire food industry. I trust absolutely nothing that comes out of
their mouth. They make fraudulent low carb products.

i
tcomeau - 30 Jan 2004 19:30 GMT
> Study links high-carbs and weight loss
> http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/news/7801389.htm
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> lose weight without actually cutting calories - and without
> exercising, either.

Article: New High Carb Diet Study Appears to be Junk Science and Atkins
Attack

Thursday, January 29, 2004
By Steven Milloy, Fox News
Already-confused dieters are no doubt reeling from reports this week of
a new study linking a high-carbohydrate diet (search) with weight loss.
Rather than well-conducted scientific research, though, the new study
appears to be merely a junk science-fueled attack by government nannies
on politically incorrect low-carbohydrate regimens like the Atkins Diet
(search).

"In the midst of the low-carb craze, a new study suggests that by eating
lots of carbohydrates and little fat, it is possible to lose weight
without actually cutting calories ? and without exercising, either,"
reported the Associated Press this week.
"Revenge of the High-Carb Diet ? Ha! It Works, Too" was the Reuters
headline.
But unlike the sensationalistic media, which tend to limit their
reporting of new study claims to regurgitated press releases and sound
bites from study authors, I actually read the study in the Jan. 26 issue
of the Archives of Internal Medicine.

It didn't take long to discover why study subjects on the
high-carbohydrate lost weight ? they ate fewer calories!
The researchers divided the 34 study subjects into three groups: a
control group of 12 individuals who consumed a low-carbohydrate diet
(search); a group of 11 individuals who consumed a high-carbohydrate
diet; and a group of 11 individuals who consumed a high-carbohydrate
diet and did aerobic exercise.

Study subjects were provided with foods constituting 150 percent of
their required daily caloric intake and instructed to eat as much as
they wanted. Carbohydrates constituted 45 percent of the control groups'
calories and about 62 percent for the high-carbohydrate groups.
After 12 weeks, the study subjects on the control diet weighed the same
as when the study started. But study subjects on the high-carbohydrate
diet lost weight: about five pounds on average for those in the
high-carbohydrate-only group and about 10 pounds for those in the
high-carbohydrate-plus-exercise group.
To the study authors and media, these superficial "results" apparently
prove that you can lose weight while eating as many carbohydrates as you
like ? and you don't even have to exercise.
It might be a couch potato's fantasy come true ? except that the study
details tell a different story.

As it turns out, study subjects in the high-carbohydrate groups consumed
about 400-600 calories less per day than those in the control group.
Over the 12-week period of the study, then, the average study subject in
the high-carbohydrate group consumed about 42,000 calories less than the
average study subject in the control group.
Since a pound of fat represents about 3,500 calories, it's no wonder why
those in the high-carbohydrate group lost weight. It was because they
ate less, not because of any magical effects of a high-carbohydrate
diet.

Although the media's apparent lack of interest in examining the actual
study data is disappointing, the inaccurate description of the study to
the media by lead author William J. Evans of the University of Arkansas
for Medical Sciences is even more dismaying.
He told Reuters that the study subjects ate "around 2,500 calories per
day," thereby implying that the only difference in their diets was the
amount of carbohydrates. That's just plain misleading.

Control group subjects averaged 2,825 calories per day during the
12-week study; high-carbohydrate group subjects averaged 2250 calories
per day and high-carbohydrate-plus-exercise subjects averaged 2,413
calories.
Such variation over 12 weeks adds up to significant differences in total
caloric intake and is most likely what produced the observed weight loss
in the high-carbohydrate groups.
The study authors then had the audacity to slam low-carbohydrate diets,
such as the Atkins diet, as a means to lose weight.
"Little evidence exists to support this idea," wrote the study authors.
But it appears that there's not even that much evidence in favor of
their all-the-carbs-you-can-eat idea.
It's no secret that nutrition nannies in the federal government oppose
high-protein/low-carbohydrate diets like the Atkins plan ? not because
such diets don't work but because their fat-is-OK approach contradicts
the nannies' low-fat dietary prescriptions of the last 30 years. (The
irony of course is that obesity has supposedly skyrocketed while America
went low-fat.)

Evans and his group, not surprisingly, were funded by the National
Institutes of Health, a government group that claims in bold-face on its
Web site that "[High-protein/low-carb diets are] not a healthy way to
lose weight!"
That may or may not be true. Much more research is needed. Hopefully
that research won't be conducted by biased, government-funded research
hacks.
Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,109890,00.htm

***
Of course it's junk science. Pretty pathetic attempt too.

TC
Ignoramus11235 - 30 Jan 2004 20:02 GMT
>> Study links high-carbs and weight loss
> Article: New High Carb Diet Study Appears to be Junk Science and Atkins
> It didn't take long to discover why study subjects on the
> high-carbohydrate lost weight ? they ate fewer calories!
> The researchers divided the 34 study subjects into three groups: a
> control group of 12 individuals who consumed a low-carbohydrate diet

low carbing is not that different from the described experiment:
severely limit one macronutrient, forbid junk food, put someone on
eating regimen where it is hard to overeat.

If that study is junk science, so is Dr Atkins diet, by your own logic.

Truth is, any diet worth its salt should do something to make the
dieter eat less and avoid junk food. Whether it is low carbing or
eating only pre-made low fat foods, is secondary.

I find that Fox News article to be absurd and even less impressive
than the study it is attacking. Highly typical of Fox News.

i
taurusrc@aol.com - 30 Jan 2004 23:10 GMT
The whole problem with the wise nutrition experts is that for one person a diet
may work and for another one the diet will not work.  That is because not
everyone has the same metabolism speed.  

One needs to eat less than they use - what works for one does not work for
everyone.

Ora
 
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