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conrad - 23 Mar 2007 15:31 GMT

Is it the actual HFCS or the quantity that is important
in many ailments that are linked to HFCS?

And two unrelated questions, suppose you eat
a banana or cantaloupe or some other piece of
fruit along with a meal. Now fruits typically have
low GIs(due to fiber) but their effect on blood
glucose would be even less than what their
GIs tout, if and only if they are consumed
with other low sugar foods, right? Also, can
the fruits by themselves (if they contain a GI
of < 60 for example) provide enough of an insulin
spike as to enable the uptake of glucose in hopes
of boosting protein synthesis from a post workout?

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conrad

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Ron Peterson - 23 Mar 2007 16:45 GMT

> Is it the actual HFCS or the quantity that is important
> in many ailments that are linked to HFCS?

It would have to be the quantity because HFCS is 55% fructose and 45%
glucose. Sucrose quickly breaks down to 50% fructose and 50% glucose.

The glycemic index of glucose is 100 and the GI of fructose is less
than 25.

> And two unrelated questions, suppose you eat
> a banana or cantaloupe or some other piece of
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> GIs tout, if and only if they are consumed
> with other low sugar foods, right?

Apples have a low GI partly because they are high in fructose, but
your glucose load will depend on the GI and the quantity eaten.

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Ron

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Tunderbar - 23 Mar 2007 16:55 GMT

> > Is it the actual HFCS or the quantity that is important
> > in many ailments that are linked to HFCS?
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> --
> Ron

HFCS is not the same as its simply stated constituent parts. It is a
highly processed mixture of the two sugars and is not handled by the
body in the same way as each sugar is because they are in different
more refined and/or processed forms.

it is a form of sugar that is completely foreign to our genetic
evolution and causes many many new and previously unseen problems.
Since its invention in the early 1970's we've seen a tripling of
diabetes T2, heart disease, obesity, osteoporosis and many other sugar
and obesity related diseases.

HFCS is the worst form of sugar in our food.

TC

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monty1945@lycos.com - 23 Mar 2007 21:48 GMT

I think Ron is correct here. If not, I'd like to see citations from
those who disagree. I would add that aside from a diet rich in the
very dangerous oils, such as canola, corn, safflower, soybean, etc.,
or cooked meat, I advise people not to eat any food between meals or
drink anything with calories between meals, and to have three meals a
day only. You then eat slowly, but you can eat as much as you like,
so long as you avoid the "bad" oils and cooked meat (boiled eggs are
okay, as well as food made with gelatin). I would suggest keeping the
HFCS low, but don't worry about it. It is now in a lot of products,
so totally avoiding it is not practical for many people. On the other
hand, you can drink something like organic white tea with no sugar or
milk in it, rather than soft drinks that have HFCS (or not).

My free site addresses these kinds of issues, and you can ask me
questions on the forums there is you have any:

http://groups.msn.com/TheScientificDebateForum-/

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